Thor without hammer vs spider man, captain america, wolverine and daredevil

Started by leonidas14 pages

<<I repeat, sorry for that. But please, dont post those class of sentences. That sounds arrogant. If even you dont know me and dont know my age, how do you know that you have collected comics longer than i was born?It doesnt make sense.>>

good nuff.

and if you don't want people to know how old you are, don't post it in your bio. 😉

and 8888 is right -- cap is peak, dd's human, spidey is considered by most to be top tier 'street', though their is no 'clear-cut' definition of that term. wolvie is in the same boat.

we'll agree to disagree. i say thor comes out bloodied and webbed with some bumps on his head, but wins almost every time. you disagree, that's cool.;

and 8888 -- wolvie can't fight in space for long -- he needs to breathe. drowning/asphyxiation is the one way to definitely kill wolverine, and there is absolutely no reason why thor couldn't chuck him into space, thereby killing him. silly? yeah. would it be done in a book? no. but this isn't a book, and sometimes silly things can happen in the forum. like it or not.

Well, if you did read my age in my bio, you are right.

And about the thor sending wolverine to space, how he could do it without his hammer?

Wolverine and spidey are much more than human or street people, cap is something more than human level( supersoldier formula) and daredevil is a very well trained human.

it wont happen hell even if thor did do it in comics he woudlent be stupid enough to try it on some one who if stabbed him could kill him. by the way superhuman is not street level lol. street level is peak human tops.
Just SO U ALL KNOW WOLVERINE IS SUPERHUMAN LEVEL
(offical marvel role playing game) read the stats they are offical wolverine strength is stated to be at least 2 ton -10 tons thats what a strength 4 has between 2 tons and 10 tons. (marvel vs dc) states agility,reflex,strength,durability,stamina are all at superhuman level.. (wolverine hand book 2004) states wolverines strength at level 4 which is super human. (hulks ultimate official guide) states wolverine has super human strength.

<<And about the thor sending wolverine to space, how he could do it without his hammer?>>

you don't think he's strong enough to throw wolvie into space? his hammer doesn't give him strength, speed, godforce, storm control (though it helps CHANNEL his storm control), immortality. thor has all these things without his hammer.

oh, and someone on an earlier page proved thor is more than capable of tossing wolvie into space. all he'd need to do is grab his arm and bye-bye wolvie. again, thor is plenty fast enough to do so.

and 88888888, er 8, 888, 8 . . . ya crack me up. and just so's YOU know -- street is a GENERIC term. it's amorphous and has no 'real' definition, though it's generally used in reference to low level superpowered heroes or 'peak human level hereos'. spidey and wolvie are low level superhuman. just because you don't like things, doesn't mean they aren't that way. STILL don't believe me? take a look at the 'street level tournament' going on, and look at some of the heroes/villains chosen for it. so laugh at everyone participating in it, and digi for starting it and everyone else for agreeing that yes, the characters in it are GENERALLY considered 'steet level'. and if you STILL don't believe -- read jinzin's posts about wolvie. you wanna be a fan and not a fanboy, read his posts.

cripes. i'm beginning to feel demigawd's pain . . .

11) INVULNERABILITY: The following are historical examples of incredibly devastating forces that has been used against Thor. Thor has survived each of these highly Lethal attacks, and most of the time have come out unscathed. A) Thor has been on the receiving end of Zeus and Blitziana's LIGHTNING bolts. B) Thor withstood a barrage of ARTILLARY fire with ease, and a Heat Seeking Missile- see Thor#480, and Thor-#247; C) and in the J. Kirby's days Thor used to test his invulnerability by having a Cobalt Bomb explode next to him. D) Kang’s Dissolution blast to the EXTREME did not fell Thor-Avengers-#143, and in Avengers-#295 Mechanosaurus struck Thor with a Megahertz Artillery fire that would easily destroy any vehicle to pieces- with no visible effect on Thor (Note: even bullets from a powerful sub-machine gun can’t hope to accomplish the same amount of penetration or destruction that could a Megahertz artillery attack by Mechnanosaurus). In Avengers-#5-pg 20- it explicitly stated that nothing, not even an ATOMIC BLAST could injure Thor, or his hammer. E) Thor resisted the full power of the Man from Saturn’s Graviton ray-Thor-#255. F) Thor withstood the Thermal Man's HEAT blast that could melt Tanks instantly, also, Thor was insensitive to the Lava Man's attack- see Avengers #5. In addition, Thor withstood a direct hit by Firelord’s Cosmic Flame with absolutely no dire visible effect on him- Thor-#306, and Ghost Rider’s Flame proved to be totally ineffectual against Thor, as well- Avengers-#214, and when the Planet Ego raised his internal heat temperature to the EXTREME, it had no affect on Thor-See Thor-#133.

"true I should not of called u a fool. but u clearly don't know to much about wolverine. (offical marvel role playing game) read the stats they are offical wolverine strength is stated to be at least 2 ton -10 tons thats what a strength 4 has between 2 tons and 10 tons"

I dont think i made any refference of how much he is suposse to be able to bench. Its not like there is much of a difference between him and others of the so called SL class. He has advantages like the adamantium and claws as well as healing, but thats it.

"And i repeat, wolverine , spidey and cap arent in streel level. They are superhuman. Only daredevil is in that class."

"Streeth level" isent a class given to thugs or normal humans. Black Widow is streeth level. Batman is streeth level. Richard Dragon and Shiva are streeth level. Luke cage in his first appearances was streeth level. Moon Knight its streeth level. See the pattern? And Cap is in that category also.

Spiderman its the only high character on the team, Wolverine isent that above compared with the class we are talking about.

At least the way i see it.

Strength class doesn't matter much considering I'm sure wolverine's claws and inhuman(last checked it was 1000 lb press with adamantium)
strength would ensure he could penetrate thor's skin in a full power lunge.

Spiderman is damn near pre-cog even hulk was is as fast as thor could barely hit spiderman on almost all occassions. Plus, spiderman is strong enough(15 tons) to do some effect(little pain,but still enough) to thor.
And there's always throwinh him into other solid things and letting gravity and physics do the work.

Why punch someone stronger than you when you can just toss them on their head on the concrete.

Captain america will put up alittle fight , but his punches would have no effect unless he used his sheild, which would at least give the others a quick diversion while thors turned to punch cap into oblivion.

Daredevil would undoubtly jump around makin' thor have to work at least alittle to catch him, since daredevil wouldn't be stupid enough to try takin' thor head on.

All this, gives spiderman and wolverine time to come in with everything they've got and hope to God they can fair better than the avengers who got their ass handed tp them by thor way back when.

They might not win, but then again, nobody expected the seemingly weak ali to win against the punching power juggernaut named marciano ether.

You see what happened in that fight.

Sometimes, its not the physically strongest who wins.

Originally posted by jplatinum
Strength class doesn't matter much considering I'm sure wolverine's claws and inhuman(last checked it was 1000 lb press with adamantium)
strength would ensure he could penetrate thor's skin in a full power lunge.

Spiderman is damn near pre-cog even hulk was is as fast as thor could barely hit spiderman on almost all occassions. Plus, spiderman is strong enough(15 tons) to do some effect(little pain,but still enough) to thor.
And there's always throwinh him into other solid things and letting gravity and physics do the work.
Why punch someone stronger than you when you can just toss them on their head on the concrete.
Captain america will put up alittle fight , but his punches would have no effect unless he used his sheild, which would at least give the others a quick diversion while thors turned to punch cap into oblivion.
Daredevil would undoubtly jump around makin' thor have to work at least alittle to catch him, since daredevil wouldn't be stupid enough to try takin' thor head on.
All this, gives spiderman and wolverine time to come in with everything they've got and hope to God they can fair better than the avengers who got their ass handed tp them by thor way back when.
They might not win, but then again, nobody expected the seemingly weak ali to win against the punching power juggernaut named marciano ether.
You see what happened in that fight.
Sometimes, its not the physically strongest who wins.


Thor-#354, Thor was toying with Hela using speed that according to her was beyond comprehension.
An Asgardian goddess was amazed of Thor's speed.
Still thinking this fanboy supported team has a chance?
You and others on this boards jp got serious issues and misconceptions.
Just like Superman wouldn't be injured from them, so would Thor.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Potentially deadly?Thor got up from that combo of hits and grabbed Cap for the neck like the insect he is to him.
Cap got a cheap shot action, nothing more.

thor got up after cap got distracted and before he was able to decapitate thor with his shield... potentially deadly indeed..

Originally posted by K3VIL
Thor-#354, Thor was toying with Hela using speed that according to her was beyond comprehension.
An Asgardian goddess was amazed of Thor's speed.
Still thinking this fanboy supported team has a chance?
You and others on this boards jp got serious issues and misconceptions.
Just like Superman wouldn't be injured from them, so would Thor.

Dude, what is your problem here? Because im not any kind of fanboy. If you think that some heroes couldnt beat more powerful people and you have the idea that the only way to win a fight is strenght, you should read more comics.

Listen to bakerboy.

Strength alone doesn't win every battle. even the most ignorant white belt knows that.

problem with that is that thor is NOT only strength. he is also very smart and has LOADS of experience and skill.

it sounds as though everyone picking the team thinks only THEY have brains and skill. thor has them both + strength and a host of other abilities that he is not allowed to use in this fight. in essence, he is basically being ALLOWED only strength. but he DOES have intelligence, skill and experience of his own, and CAN fight tactically (ie the way he defeated dracula, the way he figured out how to beat mangog) if he needs to.

give the team credit for their brains and skill, but don't forget thor ALSO possesses those qualities backed by much more raw power. it's why i think he still wins this.

Originally posted by jinzin
thor got up after cap got distracted and before he was able to decapitate thor with his shield... potentially deadly indeed..

Hell yes.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Dude, what is your problem here? Because im not any kind of fanboy. If you think that some heroes couldnt beat more powerful people and you have the idea that the only way to win a fight is strenght, you should read more comics.

Hell yes.

Originally posted by jplatinum
Listen to bakerboy.

Strength alone doesn't win every battle. even the most ignorant white belt knows that.

Hell yes.

Originally posted by leonidas
problem with that is that thor is NOT only strength. he is also very smart and has LOADS of experience and skill.

it sounds as though everyone picking the team thinks only THEY have brains and skill. thor has them both + strength and a host of other abilities that he is not allowed to use in this fight. in essence, he is basically being ALLOWED only strength. but he DOES have intelligence, skill and experience of his own, and CAN fight tactically (ie the way he defeated dracula, the way he figured out how to beat mangog) if he needs to.

give the team credit for their brains and skill, but don't forget thor ALSO possesses those qualities backed by much more raw power. it's why i think he still wins this.

But you're matching up one brain against four...well, three and a half with Wolverine there...

<<But you're matching up one brain against four...well, three and a half with Wolverine there...>>

HA!! i'd call it closer to 3, actually . . . it might even dip BELOW 3 if wolvie is allow to make the people around him, er, stupider (??)

and you're right, but what he's lacking in grey matter he makes up for in raw power and speed.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<But you're matching up one brain against four...well, three and a half with Wolverine there...>>

HA!! i'd call it closer to 3, actually . . . it might even dip BELOW 3 if wolvie is allow to make the people around him, er, stupider (??)

and you're right, but what he's lacking in grey matter he makes up for in raw power and speed.

Which the four can more than make up for.