Human Torch vs. Storm

Started by GalacticStorm5 pages

Storm all the way. Johnnys durability is human just like storms. Hes in just as much danger as her. Storms versatility and wide range of influence takes this. Johnny cant stay Nova in a monsoon specifically directed at him and he wouldnt be able to stay airborne. A lightning bolt would take him out.

I agree with metal man that when hes flamed on he can take a bit more not that it would make the difference in this particular fight. Torch can increase his intensity so that winds and rains aren't going to extinquish him.

Originally posted by life is cruell
I agree with metal man that when hes flamed on he can take a bit more not that it would make the difference in this particular fight. Torch can increase his intensity so that winds and rains aren't going to extinquish him.

He hasnt been shown to be capable of staying flamed on (for the amount of time he'd need to in ) in the conditions storm will inflict on him with a thought. Sorry to put down your your baby but storm takes him down with a monsoon. 😄

His durability is human. Storms body can take the conditions her powers place on her body but that doesnt make her have anything other than human durability. Same with Johnny and virtually every high level energy wielder

It's only a matter of time before he can stay flamed on when he's under water. Then he will be truely badass.

Storm affects weather instantaneously but i doubt she can create affects like a hurricane at an istant. It takes seconds for her weather effects to gain strength.

Sure she can create gusts instantly but it takes seconds for them to build stregth. In one issue of x-men storm was usings gusts of wind against a tank. There was three panels one of her psionically manipulating the weather, the next of the tank shaking a little and the third with the tank on its feet.

It might work...depends on how intense Torch's flame is. If he protects himself though, like he did against Graviton, no level of wind or air manipulation is going to take away his flame.

Any kind of flame attack will babdly hurt Storm

Torch can absorb most energy attacks to increase his own flame i.e. he has absorbed energy from power lines

Torch's manueverability is far far far superior to Storms, he is one of the most precise/fast flgith guys on Marvel Earth

Originally posted by Wynndar
It might work...depends on how intense Torch's flame is. If he protects himself though, like he did against Graviton, no level of wind or air manipulation is going to take away his flame.

Any kind of flame attack will babdly hurt Storm

Torch can absorb most energy attacks to increase his own flame i.e. he has absorbed energy from power lines

Torch's manueverability is far far far superior to Storms, he is one of the most precise/fast flgith guys on Marvel Earth

and any kind of lghtning attack will badly hurt johnny. lightning moves at 60,000 miles per SECOND, he can't dodge it. he could have won the fight in coc 2 without killing her, yet he didn't. and kevil, try to get your facts straight, storm has just recently snuffed torches flame, with one flick of her wrist.

So...if Johnny were to go Nova, reaching 1,000,000 degrees F, you (GalacticStorm and StormFront) believe that Storm can snuff out his flames?

Flames hotter than the sun? As hot as a star going nova? No. Not even with a monsoon directed at him. His flames will instantly evaporate any water sent his way at such extreme temperatures.

I'm giving this to Johnny 8/10.

He wouldnt need to get anywhere near that level i think surface of the sun will be enough to evaporate anywater coming his way. And if what wyndarr is saying is true that lightning bolt would put him down.

Yes he has absorbed all kinds of energy attacks, this is why I know for a fact that Cyclops could do absolutely nothing to Torch. He has used power lines to jump start his powers when he was weakened. The problem is, when he's with his team, taking on too much energy might cause him to roast anyone near him. He has nothing to worry about in a one on one scenerio though.

The power of a tornado, hurricane, monsoon is very impressive. It may tear up cars and buildings. But Torch's hottest flame has burn stright through the Earth, into the core, and caused the planet to expand. A monsoon isnt stopping that. His flame has been considered powerful enough to destroy a moon and vaporize a hemisphere. Im not talking about his lower level yellow flame he uses against bank robbers...of course his lowest level will lose against Storm going all out. But Storm is utterly vulnerable to anything the Torch does. Regardless of how fast her winds and lightning are, Torch is one of the top flyers on Earth. He's dodged attacks from cosmics and robots and everything else out there, Storm will have trouble just keeping her eyes on him if he wants. Then again he could always make a dozen flame copies of himself....she could hit those with lightning all she wants and they will still smoke her.

Lightning doesn't reach temperatures required to hurt him. So there'd be no heat damage. I'm not sure about electrical damage though but assuming he can absorb it then thats one option gone.

I dont think anyone can produce the kinds of temperatures that would hurt him.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Yes he has absorbed all kinds of energy attacks, this is why I know for a fact that Cyclops could do absolutely nothing to Torch. He has used power lines to jump start his powers when he was weakened. The problem is, when he's with his team, taking on too much energy might cause him to roast anyone near him. He has nothing to worry about in a one on one scenerio though.

This information is very interesting.

I use the Blastaar example for Cyclops; Blastaar has the same powers as Cyclops he's just way more powerful and fires blast through his hands. When he hits torch it does nothing but cause his powers to leap up to the white hot level flame.

Theres a major difference between absorbing energy voluntarily at a rate you can handle and having it shoved down your throat by someone out to kill you. Johnny can absorb other energy but he's rarely done it and it required effort. In a battle situation with Storm barraging him with lightning its completely different. It takes Johnny a while to get Nova before then Storm will have snuffed out his initial flames and her wind andrain will greatly hamper his flying abilities or even easily restrain him whilst a barrage of lightning will finish the job.

Storm can absorb electrical energy from external sources and her body is resistant to the extremes of temperature that can occur in an earth like atmosphere, however she still has human durability. Just like Johnny does.

A monsoon can not only greatly hamper his ability to flame on but the wind itself can restrain him and leave him a sitting duck just like in CoC. A barrage of lightning would do the trick or Storm could use the monsoon winds to batter him senseless. Propelled at 300 mph into the side of a skyscraper would result in a very dead Johnny.

Storm's body heats up and cools down to compensate for the temperatures she creates. I remember in the Arctic cold her body overheated.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Storm's body heats up and cools down to compensate for the temperatures she creates. I remember in the Arctic cold her body overheated.

One instance and i can post scans of her walking around in a skimpy costume claiming she never gets cold whilst everyone else is draped in fur.

Either way both of them have human durability. It takes time for Johnny to go nova a dramatically longer time than it would take for Storm to slam him into a chosen part of the scenery.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Storm's body heats up and cools down to compensate for the temperatures she creates. I remember in the Arctic cold her body overheated.

What would happen if she put her hand in a barbeque pit? Like right under the burgers and weiners, juices dripping on her arm and everything.

She'd get burnt. Your point?