Originally posted by wolverine8888
if wolverine went beserker he would easily win wolverine better fighter and better in every way well in beserker but wolverine can also go feral but that diffrent
I disagree because although hes stronger when hes berserk against someone like beast who is intelligent beast would easily outsmart him.
IF wolverine was thinking clearly then he could know he needed to stab him somewhere crucial.
do u know what a berserker is? berserker is a fighter who well in beserker all he thinks about is the best way to kill his foe. his thinking ability is souly on fastest and best way to kill his foe or foes. they become the ultimate killing machine. they apear animal like but actauly there mind is moving at a far faster rate then it normaly would. take some one like wolverien with his fighting skill and experience in berserker he almost unstopable. has been stated befor when wolverine is a bersker he considered unstaopable. also every other one of his abilities go to the top of wolverine abilities even his healing factor. also bullets seem as if there going in very slow motion as seen in weapon x noval.
I counter your attack of how Beast is a slouch in the fighting department.
Not only has Beast been an X-men member FAR longer than Wolverine, over thirty years longer actually, he has also been highly trained in martial arts as well. He doesn't just sit on his furry butt all day and surf the net you know.
The only thing that Wolverine has better in comparison to Beast is his unbreakable skeleton, faster healing factor, and fighting skills.
Everything else, goes to Beast. Faster, stronger, more durable (yes, durability is different from healing factor), faster reflexes, quicker, more agile, FAR MORE INTELLIGENT, and has been shown on multiple occasions (even when he was still a rookie with the team) that he is an extraordinary tactician as well. Beast thinks up several scenarios about a fight on the fly, which just looks even more impressive when you factor in his other superior stats as well.
So, after a veeeeeeeeeeeery long fight, I'd say Beast 6/10.
Note how Wolverine still has a GREAT chane to succeed--40%.
wolverine would crush beast...yes beast is stronger and smarter but that is it...but wolverine specializes in fighting guys WAAAAAY stronger than beast....as much as some people hate it , wolverine has been fighting guys like hulk and wendigo, and roughhouse since the first comic he was in...and beast is no where near those levels....anyone gonna be crazy enough to say beast can slug it out with the hulk...I thought not....hell beast couldnt throw down with spidey
metal still disagree cat best fights straight up which would get him killed fast. if ur talken about beast befor he evolved more well same thing he not gunna stand a chance he does not have healing at all his sense are far worse and he just a weak version of spiderman. plus is beast more durable then spiderman because with out wolverine healing factor he still listed a whole level over spiderman in durability. also beast senses are not as good plus wolevriens tamina is a good deal better. stats when they still listed durability with out healing factor wolverine was a 5 spiderman was a 3 but I can't remeber what beast was. im talken about when it was out of 10. the role playing games still use thsoe same listings. I realy thought the listing out of 10 were much better then they have now
what the hell makes beast more durable than wolverine? 馃え
I wasn't aware beast can take hacks and slashes from 5,000 hand ninja..
or get gun fire poured on him from 100 assailants and be ok...
...oorrrr take class 50 and up punches and get up without much of a problem...
hmmm please show me these feats, I didn't know he was so capible....
anywho... hank's tough and all.. but he's not vastly superior to wolverine.. his strength isn't > vs. wolverine's durability..
wolverine has better stamina..
his only real saving grace here is his agility..
and his intelligence, while great for book smarts isn't quite on par with wolverine's battlefield intel...so if he "outsmarts" logan.. chances are he's winning by a plot device..
funny how it's only okay to win through plot device whenb it's AGAINST wolverine.. not that it isn't consitent cause it is.. but still...
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I've always considered Beast and Wolverine to have the same stamina actually. Because of his extreme mutatated physiology.And yes. Far stronger.
And more experienced as an X-men by far, which I think says a lot itself.
what does being a more experienced x-man have to do with anything here? 馃え it's not a team battle..
the fact of the matter is that wolverine's a more experience combatant plain and simple.. your point is moot..
and although beat does have heightened physiology, not having a weapon x healing factor is going to seriously hinder him against someone who does..
Originally posted by wolverine8888
how does experience as a x-men matter at all? hell he does not even ahve much mroe experience as a x-men since he left the team and was on a whole bunch of other super hero teams for years by the way beast age wise is not even 30 lol. also no wolverine is a good deal better in stamina
Beast: X-man since about 1963.
Wolverine: X-man since about mid 80s.
Beast--much more experience in that area.
Don't got judging a character's age in this. Otherwise current Spiderman is still an 18-year-old boy.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Beast: X-man since about 1963.Wolverine: X-man since about mid 80s.
Beast--much more experience in that area.
Don't got judging a character's age in this. Otherwise current Spiderman is still an 18-year-old boy.
Maybe with prep Beast could take it. Otherwise, i just don't see it happening.
I think this fight would be close if Beast were to actually fight. I'd say Wolverine wins or it's a draw. Wolverine's healing factor and fighting skills are paramount in this battle. Beast won't be far behind because of raw athleticism however. Some of you underestimate him I think.
Wolverine 6-7/10 or draw.
Sucks that there is no tie option. I'll hold my vote until I am convinced either way then I guess. I am leaning towards Wolverine right now though.
Beast is highly trained in martial arts as well.
I agree that beast does know his stuff about fighting. But wolvie is one of the best when it comes to hand to hand combat, and in one of his issues (can't remember which issue) he neally killed beast when he went into a beserker rage, fortunetly for wolverine beast had a healing factor. I believe that wolverine would walk away from this fight with the victory. Remember wolvie has fought in world war II and learned some of his fighting skills there, he also got taught by Ogun who is one of the best in martial arts.
Beast has been in X-Men for dozens of years...gone through thousands of Danger Room situations and you people say that "he is not rather good fighter"? Beast has dodged bullets, lasers, flying debris, hits from super-villains since he was 16...Wolverine is not going to land a hit on him.
And Beast can tear through steel like it's paper with his claws and teeth..and he can hit through it, he's stronger. Faster, too. More agile by miles. Tougher, yes. And I am not even discussing about intelligence.
Beast six or five out of ten.
He can go feral too.
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