wovlerine vs Beast

I know you keep telling me, wolverine888. Doesn't mean that you're right though.

The reason it states Wolverine's durability higher than Beast's in your book is because of his healing factor.

Man, you are so in love with Wolverine, it's not even funny. Without his healing factor he couldn't take the hits that he does. Knives pierce Wolverine faster and easier than they pierce Beast. But Wolvie will heal from it faster, which is why he has the better healing factor.

If you took out both their healing factors for this fight, Beast would stomp Wolverine.

no not at all. in my book hell go look at the role playing games they even list the stats of them both. sucks hwo the new stats came out leave out so many diffrent attributes. www.marvel.com use to have the same scale as the role playing and it a offical sight so the role playing games stats are actauly corrected. go look at them pure durability which means how much a punch effects u if wolverien just ahd a healing factor he would not be able to shrugg off class 100 hits and keep comminng he would be dazed and have to pause for a sec but since his durability so high he cna keep comming. im telling u look at the (official marvel role playing game) stats they are official stats.

Of couse beast would... but if you want to take away powers we could say wolverine would stomp beast if beast didn't have super agility...remember wolvie has taken on some big guys...im not saying wolvie can beat hulk, but he did hang with him for a couple a rounds...

The reason Wolverine is able to take class 100 punches (Actually, this is crap. He really shouldn't be able to even with his healing factor and skeleton) is because of his adamantium skeleton. It doesn't break, so it keeps him together when normally he would be shattered and explode upon being hit by a class 100 opponent. Since it doesn't break, it keeps him whole, allowing him to heal.

Now if we took away both of their healing factors, Beast would win since the damage he'll do to Wolverine will stay with him throughout the fight.

Originally posted by jgiant
Of couse beast would... but if you want to take away powers we could say wolverine would stomp beast if beast didn't have super agility...remember wolvie has taken on some big guys...im not saying wolvie can beat hulk, but he did hang with him for a couple a rounds...

Exactly. I'm not taking the powers away for the fight, just trying to prove a point. The only reason Wolverine is stated to have high durability on his stats and is able to hang with the Hulk and such is because of his healing factor. His durability is completely different. He has peak human durability, which just doesn't show a lot since he heals from things very quickly.

I honestly don't see beast doing more damage then wolverine. also unbreakable skeleton adds in to durability u know.

offical marvel role playing hand book it has offical stats in it go check it out best is under wolverines durabilty and there nto talken about healing factor since it says what there talken about when they say durability. also healing factor is a whole diffrent stat on it

Funny how you don't remember that until I bring it up.

I know the skeleton makes him durable, but I was talking mostly tissue damage, like slices and gashes. Which Beast is fully capable of doing to Wolverine with his claws on each hand and foot.

The only problem with that is that Wolverine will heal in minutes. Though I don't see Wolverine able to hit Beast with his claws if Beast really doesn't want him to. Beast has dodged much faster people before.

I just thought of a way that Beast can win. He'll just pin Wolverine to the ground. Simple as that. Beast pins all for of Wolverine's apendages to the ground, winning the fight since Wolverine is incapacitated and can't continue any further. And with Beast's strength, there's no way Wolverine could budge him.

I'm even more convinced that Beast could win now.

he won't be able to do it spideman better thnen beast in every way and spdierman has yet been able to do that he to bussy trying not the die. beast could never do what u just said it wont happen he can not get that close if wolverien trying to kill him beast is not stupid getting that close will get him killed. beast has been hit bye wolverine and spiderman who faster has been hit by wolverine. night cralwer easily get hit by wolverine us till have no proven why wolverine will not be able to hit him. by the way much stronger people then beast have tryed that and failed.

You're telling me with a straight face that much stronger people have tried to pin Wolverine down to the ground, wrestling-style?

Cuz to me, that seems like a simple way to incapacitate him, since he only has peak human strength compared to Beast's superhuman strength.

Spiderman could've done the same, but as you very well see, he didn't. He tried to bludgen Wolverine to knock him out. When clearly he should've just pinned him and incapacitated him.

By the way, it's "by", not "bye". And it's "Wolverine", not "wolerien". And "tried", not "tryed".

But that's enough of that. Beast, who is quite the martial artist and skilled fighter himself, wins this fight through incapacitation.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Beast's agility>>>>>>>Logan's.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Beast strength>>>>>Logan's.[/B]

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Beast's senses = Logan's.[/B]

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Beast's stamina = Logan's.[/B]

Originally posted by Metalmanx Beast's durability>>>Logan's.[/B]

Originally posted by Metalmanx Beast's healing factor<<<<<<<Logan's.[/B]

Originally posted by Metalmanx Beast's fighting skills<<<<Logan's.
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Wolverine 8/10

Normally me an Metal see eye to eye in fights. In thsi I just have to disagree.

Strentgh: Beast all the way. But Beast strentgh isn't greater than the sort of punishment Wolverine can easily take and has.

Agilty: Beast once again, but his agility doesn't make him untouchable even spiderman gets tagged now and then and Beast is no where as agile. So sooner or later Wolverin is going to nail him...

Durabilty: Which brings me to my next point Wolveerines Durabilty>>>>>>> Beast's. Durabiltiy isn't defined by the toughness of ones skin, but by how much punishment you can take before you can't take anymore. Beast can beat on Wolverine for quite some time and Logna can keep coming unless Beast gets some lucky critcal hit. Where as how many slices of Wolverin's claws can Beast take? A few really before it starts to impede his agility and considering he wasn't agile enough in the first plae to avoid the first hit he is going ot get more and then he is dead.

Fighting Ability. Wolverine. I give beast all the credit he deserves. He has been a veteran on the X-Men for several years, and he trains relgiously in the danger room. Wolverin has that and more than a century of killing people to boot. No way does Mcoy out fight Wolverine.

bye the way when wolverine fought omega red for 18 hour he was heavily drugged and omega red was using some ability that slowed wolverines healing a ton. in there first fight u do know wolverine let it hit him lol same as spider man let wolverine tackle him. also by the way wolverine has superhuman strength level 1 super human but he still a good deal stronger then peak(marvel vs DC) (wolverine official hand book) marvel knights hand book) (marvel comics official role playing game) so metal ur wrong wolverine is a en-chanced human also known as level one super human which is 2 tons to 10 tons in many of the listings I listed. by the way roughhouse tried to pin wolverine and wolverine flipped him off him. by the way rough house is 75 tons to 100 ton character.

Originally posted by jinzin
what the hell makes beast more durable than wolverine? 🤨

I wasn't aware beast can take hacks and slashes from 5,000 hand ninja..

or get gun fire poured on him from 100 assailants and be ok...

...oorrrr take class 50 and up punches and get up without much of a problem...

hmmm please show me these feats, I didn't know he was so capible....

anywho... hank's tough and all.. but he's not vastly superior to wolverine.. his strength isn't > vs. wolverine's durability..

wolverine has better stamina..

his only real saving grace here is his agility..

and his intelligence, while great for book smarts isn't quite on par with wolverine's battlefield intel...so if he "outsmarts" logan.. chances are he's winning by a plot device..

funny how it's only okay to win through plot device whenb it's AGAINST wolverine.. not that it isn't consitent cause it is.. but still...

I hate to say this but wolverines durability is not due to his healing factor, twice I have seen him lose his healing factor and face of against sabretooth, lady deathstrike and omega red, and sure in the end he died but he was still able to beat sabretooth and survive the likes of omega and lady deathstrike combined. The other time was in an x-men issue where sinister took away all their mutant powers all the x-men had to fight these weird creatures but wolverine went for the machine that had taken their powers away and started slicing away with it while sinister was shooting fat ass lasers at him and this combined with the fact that wolvie was also dying from adamantium poisoning was not good for wolverine, but he still sliced at that machine and in the end it blew up in his face almost killing him and saving other mutant lives. Wolverine was only just able to survive both occassions the one where he died he came back to life thanks to his healing factor and in the x-men issue he only just survived. I believe his duribility is based on him and nothing else but his fight for mutant freedom.

steve I never normaly agree with u but ur right his durability is not due to his healing factor

Beast is the better fighter. Wolverine may be the best at what he does; but that just means he's the best at killing people.
Beast in my view is the best fighter in marvel. With his agility he may even be able to hide from Wolverine's acute senses and tracking ability leaving the predator in a state of suspense.

so you really think beast is a better fighter than wolverine?? 😕

well that just kinda says it all right there... NEXT!

Beast is the better fighter. Wolverine may be the best at what he does; but that just means he's the best at killing people.
Beast in my view is the best fighter in marvel. With his agility he may even be able to hide from Wolverine's acute senses and tracking ability leaving the predator in a state of suspense.

beast a better fighter then wolverine lol. wolverines fighting skill>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>beast
all the agility in the world wont hide u from some one who can track u by ur smell. I sorry but what u just stated made no sense at all man. beast is no were near wolverines fighting skill and why would agility allow beast to hide from wolverine? plus wolverines hiding abilities>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>beasts hiding abilities

Ever hear of throwing the scent
Here's a perfect application of increasing just that threw X-men team work