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Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

It took place in 1991. The Crisis was in 1986.

Phenomenol Restricted

It was Pre-crisis.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by Phenomenol
It was Pre-crisis.

The crisis was in 1986.

The feat took place in 1991.

Do you know what 'pre' and 'post' mean?

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

His mind is like a sieve, it only lets through what he wants to see and excludes everything else.

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by Soljer
The crisis was in 1986.
The feat took place in 1991.
Do you know what 'pre' and 'post' mean?

He's a troll. What are ya gonna do? srug

DestinyGuy678 Senior Member

Originally posted by Rorschach
Flew from Metropolis to Umec in less than 4 seconds and catches Lois before she hits the ground.
Umec is supposedly located somewhere in the Persian Gulf
This was right after his fight with XLIM and Ruin. His powers had been somewhat drained before he heard the shot.

is that superman flying back in time or the seconds before lois hit's the ground?

Rorschach Junior Member

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
is that superman flying back in time or the seconds before lois hit's the ground?

Seconds before Lois hits the ground.

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
The crisis was in 1986.
The feat took place in 1991.
Do you know what 'pre' and 'post' mean?

You're asking this to a guy who spelled his own user name wrong?

Supermanluv Restricted

Re: Re: Re: Superman: A Bitchs *****

Originally posted by Klausdoszissou
Oh, how dare i came to an online forum state my obnoxious opinion
You Superman fanboys need to get the kryptonite out of your vaginas
Everyone is gonna freak out cause i come here to rip on superfag
what are online forums for?
Because i thought they were a place where anyone can come and discuss and debate thier thoughts on a subject in any manner they wish we cant curse in real debates because its unprofessional but this is an online forum we can do anything thats why they are here but if you ****ing teenagers are gonna be all pissy and whine when i tell you how it is and you know what i said is true you just all want me gone in fear that ill speak the truth about all your other lame ass shit
In conclusion **** you sir (Digimark007) don't threaten me with banishment from a medicore Forum you know damn well there is nothing you can do to stop me from coming on here so just dont be a douche
With that i shall leave you HOWEVER, **** with me again and try and scare me away with "Oh i can have you banned" and "Simple enough?" then you will rue that day sir
Piss off
Trevor Jonze
PS what kind of hero does that to a young boy?

You do make quite a good point though, although i don't really understand the point in deconstructing Superman in a 'respect thread'.

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

Here Lex Luthor has control of General Zod's battleship, and explains how powerful it is:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/kryptonbattleship.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/kryptonbattleship1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/kryptonbattleship2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/kryptonbattleship3.jpg

Superman defeats the ship, even though it used Kryptonite weapons against him:

Some criminals use an alien device to trap Superman under black hole gravity, and he's still able to fight for a bit. Also note that this was a flashback to how he first met Jimmy Olsen, so he was weaker back then:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanblackholegravity.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanblackholegravity1.jpg

Deflects some bullets at point - blank range too fast for Perry to see:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanbulletdeflection.jpg

Superman fights this guy Khyber up in the atmosphere, and their blows shake the earth beneath them. Khyber weakens him with nanites, then throws him through the earth, but he survives and later escapes after spending a long time in the Earth's core:

Another view of him flying through Rao:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanfliesthroughrao.jpg

His vision powers allow him to read the text of entire books condensed to the size of a period and he can read multiple books simultaneously:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanintelligence.jpg

Resists a magic spell Arion used to try to control him:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermanresistance1.jpg

Tracks Redemption's radiation trail across the world:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses.jpg

Tracks signals at lightspeed and pinpoints the weak spot in Zod's ship:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses1.jpg

Detects and defeats some invisible Intergang goons:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses3.jpg

Covers his reporting duties with his super senses while fighting villains:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses4.jpg

Analyzes a sound in his mind and detects its source:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses5.jpg

Hears someone from another country while in a plane, and then flies to her position:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses6.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses7.jpg

Hears a person in danger in Metropolis while fighting a monster in Antarctica:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses8.jpg

Creates specific sonic frequencies:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansonics.jpg

He can suppress sonic booms during flight:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansupresssonicbooms.jpg

Defeats some villains while he is still weakened and slowly regaining his powers:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/weakenedsupermanbattlecoordination.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/weakenedsupermanbattlecoordination1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/weakenedsupermanbattlecoordination2.jpg

Senses things all over the city when his powers return:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/weakenedsupermansenses.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/weakenedsupermansenses1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/weakenedsupermansenses2.jpg

P021273 Senior Member

I wonder that anyone have pic of Superman fly in deep Space ?

h1a8 Senior Member

Superman is not really weak to magic!

Guess what I've found everyone.
Superman is not really weak to magic. His ability to resist is totally psionic as confirmed by Byrne and others. For instance, if he believes that a Vampire can manhandle him, it becomes fact. But if he believes he can stop a magical beam intended to destroy an entire island, he does. Superman even has defeated an all powerful demon in her own mystical netherworld.

Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman, being magic-based beings, "always" use the "magic vulnerability" when they hit Superman. The fact that they don't splatter him into chunky salsa tells us this "vulnerability" is more complex than it seems on the surface. If he were "truly vulnerable" to magic, not only would he be obliterated by magical fists, he'd be deep fried by the first bolt of magical lightning that hits him. He'd actually die from death spells instead of being sent into comas.

Superman's belief structure is based on two things. Firstly, he was raised with midwestern common sense. Secondly, his Kryptonian heritage was solidly technocratic and scientifically based. His belief structure doesn't include the possibility of magic. This explains why he can be hurt by a Vampire, but he resists outright destruction by vastly superior magical forces. His subconscious kicks in his self-preservation instinct in life-threatening situations. It would make an interesting Elseworlds story if Superman had been raised in a magical culture. That way, his belief based vulnerability would be to scientific weaponry instead of magical forces. So Superman "can" resist magic and is a thoroughly selfless character. For he has been shown to resist magic when there is a grave need for it.

Some examples :

1. Early 90's Superman vs. Blaze; Superman defeats Blaze in her own hell dimension.
Stake : Jimmy's soul is about to be taken by Blaze .
This is no ordinary feat as Blaze has NEVER been beaten in her own realm. Blaze is a mystical demonic ruler who has total control over a mystical Hell. She's on a par with Neron and Satannus.

2. JLA Primeval: Superman resisted the magical and mystic energies of a Primeval God.
Stake : the JLA's evolved existence .
God power versus Superman Invulnerability.

3. Crossover, War of the Gods: Superman DEFLECTS and WEAKENS a mystical Bolt so powerful, it was designated to destroy the Greek Islands.
Stake : Millions of lives in Greece .
Although Superman was unable to completely stop it, he deflected (and resisted its destructive mystic energies) enough to save the Isles.

Some minor incidences:

4. Superman versus the Demon, Byrne era: The Demon blasts the Superman with Hellfire but causes no physical harm. Superman feels though as if it was burning in his mind and soul. He resists it enough to fling the Demon through several towers.

5. Superman as Gangbuster: Without his normal psyche intact, Superman breaks mystical bands that was restraining him.

6. Superman in Valhalla: Although he is fighting against demons in a mystical realm, he ultimately out survives the DC version of Thor, and becomes the War's number one warrior. As noted, Thor deems Superman the worthy lifter of Mjolnir, not Diana or anybody else.

The point of these examples is that at times, Superman resists magic due to some instance when he is no longer thinking about the effects on his body. He has been shown to resist even massive amounts of mystic energies because he believes that he can endure it, "and does"! Magic, and Mystical forces require faith to sustain it. The funny thing about bringing up Superman's vulnerability to magic is that everyone who says it will hurt him just says that it will, no questions asked . That's faith. But equally true is the belief that if you believe that it cannot
hurt you, it will not. That too, is faith.

Superman's mind is that of a mortal. There are many things, like a mortal, he does not understand. And magic is among them. He has been indoctrianted to believe that he has a weakness to magic, and thus when confronted by it, he automatically believes that he can be hurt by it. It is when he removes this belief (for the stakes at hand) that he overcomes magic.

The first 3 examples show this theory. The following 3 are a bit more diverse. Magic does not physically hurt Superman, but rather he says it is hurting his soul. This is indicative of the nature of one type of magic.
The second example is when Superman no longer maintains his own psyche. He no longer has this "fear" of magic and thus breaks through mystic restraining bands. The last is when he fights so long in Valhalla that he is not affected by its magical nature (or that of its creatures) any
more than WW or asgardian fighters, or even Thor. Magic is a tricky thing. It requires someone to believe in it to be effective. Belief systems have everything to do with it. And not everybody believes the same way. Superman "can" resist magic, only if he believes he can. Thus proving it is a psionic ability as with his other powers.

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Re: Superman is not really weak to magic!

Originally posted by h1a8
Guess what I've found everyone.
[B]Superman is not really weak to magic. His ability to resist is totally psionic as confirmed by Byrne and others. For instance, if he believes that a Vampire can manhandle him, it becomes fact. But if he believes he can stop a magical beam intended to destroy an entire island, he does. Superman even has defeated an all powerful demon in her own mystical netherworld.
Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman, being magic-based beings, "always" use the "magic vulnerability" when they hit Superman. The fact that they don't splatter him into chunky salsa tells us this "vulnerability" is more complex than it seems on the surface. If he were "truly vulnerable" to magic, not only would he be obliterated by magical fists, he'd be deep fried by the first bolt of magical lightning that hits him. He'd actually die from death spells instead of being sent into comas.
Superman's belief structure is based on two things. Firstly, he was raised with midwestern common sense. Secondly, his Kryptonian heritage was solidly technocratic and scientifically based. His belief structure doesn't include the possibility of magic. This explains why he can be hurt by a Vampire, but he resists outright destruction by vastly superior magical forces. His subconscious kicks in his self-preservation instinct in life-threatening situations. It would make an interesting Elseworlds story if Superman had been raised in a magical culture. That way, his belief based vulnerability would be to scientific weaponry instead of magical forces. So Superman "can" resist magic and is a thoroughly selfless character. For he has been shown to resist magic when there is a grave need for it.
Some examples :
1. Early 90's Superman vs. Blaze; Superman defeats Blaze in her own hell dimension.
Stake : Jimmy's soul is about to be taken by Blaze .
This is no ordinary feat as Blaze has NEVER been beaten in her own realm. Blaze is a mystical demonic ruler who has total control over a mystical Hell. She's on a par with Neron and Satannus.
2. JLA Primeval: Superman resisted the magical and mystic energies of a Primeval God.
Stake : the JLA's evolved existence .
God power versus Superman Invulnerability.
3. Crossover, War of the Gods: Superman DEFLECTS and WEAKENS a mystical Bolt so powerful, it was designated to destroy the Greek Islands.
Stake : Millions of lives in Greece .
Although Superman was unable to completely stop it, he deflected (and resisted its destructive mystic energies) enough to save the Isles.
Some minor incidences:
4. Superman versus the Demon, Byrne era: The Demon blasts the Superman with Hellfire but causes no physical harm. Superman feels though as if it was burning in his mind and soul. He resists it enough to fling the Demon through several towers.
5. Superman as Gangbuster: Without his normal psyche intact, Superman breaks mystical bands that was restraining him.
6. Superman in Valhalla: Although he is fighting against demons in a mystical realm, he ultimately out survives the DC version of Thor, and becomes the War's number one warrior. As noted, Thor deems Superman the worthy lifter of Mjolnir, not Diana or anybody else.
The point of these examples is that at times, Superman resists magic due to some instance when he is no longer thinking about the effects on his body. He has been shown to resist even massive amounts of mystic energies because he believes that he can endure it, "and does"! Magic, and Mystical forces require faith to sustain it. The funny thing about bringing up Superman's vulnerability to magic is that everyone who says it will hurt him just says that it will, no questions asked . That's faith. But equally true is the belief that if you believe that it cannot
hurt you, it will not. That too, is faith.
Superman's mind is that of a mortal. There are many things, like a mortal, he does not understand. And magic is among them. He has been indoctrianted to believe that he has a weakness to magic, and thus when confronted by it, he automatically believes that he can be hurt by it. It is when he removes this belief (for the stakes at hand) that he overcomes magic.
The first 3 examples show this theory. The following 3 are a bit more diverse. Magic does not physically hurt Superman, but rather he says it is hurting his soul. This is indicative of the nature of one type of magic.
The second example is when Superman no longer maintains his own psyche. He no longer has this "fear" of magic and thus breaks through mystic restraining bands. The last is when he fights so long in Valhalla that he is not affected by its magical nature (or that of its creatures) any
more than WW or asgardian fighters, or even Thor. Magic is a tricky thing. It requires someone to believe in it to be effective. Belief systems have everything to do with it. And not everybody believes the same way. Superman "can" resist magic, only if he believes he can. Thus proving it is a psionic ability as with his other powers. [/B]

Indeed. 🙂

I usually find that people who say "magic is an automatic fix for Superman" are truly ignorant of what he's capable of.

Avalonofthewind Godot Brew#107

Re: Re: Superman is not really weak to magic!

Originally posted by batdude123
Indeed. 🙂
I usually find that people who say "magic is an automatic fix for Superman" are truly ignorant of what he's capable of.

A good example is when Disciples skyfather level magic least affected Superman.

It turned WW into clay all the way into nothing, and turned Zauriel into a cherub, turned Kyle, and Batman into cavemen, Aquaman into a lizard...etc.

Superman was the least affected by Far.

Rorschach Junior Member

Martian Manhunter unable to find Superman

Rorschach Junior Member

Clark Kent destroys tanks and stuff at super speed

He's moving so fast that he can't be seen, and this was before he even took the name Superman

Rorschach Junior Member

Punching a guy and then catching him before he falls

Rorschach Junior Member

Catching bullets

Rorschach Junior Member

Bryne's Superman survives a 40 megaton blast

Rorschach Junior Member

Destroys nano technology inside of people