Superman vs. Hulk

On that doomsday thing though. They were both fighting at a speed that made it so the other heros couldn't keep up in there last fight before his death.

My point being, if his speed is as much a table turner as they all say, he wouldn't have died.

-AC

Yeah...
...ok.
They were both fighting at an increased speed.

Alright i just read the newest Superman Batman, and yall are making Superman now as he is to be much weaker but in the comic he gets pissed off like really pissed off and he goes all out on Darkseid and beats the crap out of him and pretty much kills him. If yall are wondering Supermans speed in that comic he flys him and Darkseid to the sun in seconds so thats pretty damn good. Thats why im trying to say if Superman gets pissed off and uses all his abilities the Hulk dont stand a chance.

Alright well im going with Supes on this one cause i just read him go all out against Darkseid and starts the fight off by indeed by flying into to Darkseid going SUPERSPEED(yes i know he used it) and flew the both of them to the sun in a few seconds(pretty damn fast) where he handed him his ass quite easily and ends up killing him or he might as well be dead.

They weakened him because he was virtually invincible which makes for kind of lame stories. Personally I kind of liked that Superman, but whatever. We're not 'making him out to be much weaker,' he IS much weaker. He's significantly weaker than his previous incarnation, but that in no way means he's weak per se. He's still one of the top heroes, just not THE top hero anymore. He could still take down Hulk in a fight, he's just not stronger than Hulk anymore and he's not going to outpunch him unless he gets lucky.

May I voice a small item of info you may wish to consider?

Goodie.

Carrying Darkseid and carrying a multi ton pissed of mountain of unbelievable muscle and strength such as Hulk, are two very different things.

-AC

no are you trying to say hulk is stronger then darkseid???

hulk ways 1400 his wieght is nothing to superman pluse it would happen to fast for hulk to react.

Yes, because the Hulk is controlled by rage and cannot think of strategies like Superman can.

True

Then Hulk has lost weight. He's weighed 2000 lbs. for most of his career. Either way, he is in no way too heavy for Superman to lift, lol. Supes *the real one* can lift 6 billion lbs...you do the math.

Yea Hulk dont have nothing over Darkseid, I think Darkseids Omega beam would destroy Hulk.

6 billion, where did you get that from.

Hulk is more muscle now than he ever was, maybe he did shed some mass.

-AC

enuff of the precrisis crap, we are talking about the supes that got beat by mongul. Hulk would crush mongul.

not really

Supremthor where did you come up with 6 billion tons lifting strength for Supes?

That was wrathofachilles.superman moved warwoud by him self and warwould and earth had about the same mass. the earth wieghts around 5.972 sextillion (5,972 followed by 18 zeroes).but warwuld was pushing back and I dont like math so I wont try and solve that problem.

I mean, I know I refer to the Mountain incident alot....but Supes fans really do like echoing one event over and over and over again.

-AC