Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Fair point. But if we go by both characters going all out with the abilities at their disposal then I dnt see Hulk tagging Supes.Hey Spiderman is fast and his Spider sense helps and everything, but he's not even close to moving several times faster than sound (at the very least), or above Light Speed (for higher end feats)..
Superman can back up blitzing oppenents with his abilities without it being considered a high end feat for him.
I see this fight as being like Supes vs. Mongul in Infinite Crisis. First Supes gets into a slug fest with Mongul and gets put down. He then goes onto humiliate WW and Batman.
Then when Supes gets back up he uses ranged attacks (Heat Vision) and attacks Mongul at Super Speed and puts him down. And that fight was indoors as well mind you. Not even the perfect environment to use ranged attacks and take advantage of superior speed.
Both characters going all out, Hulk keeps doing his thunder clapped that koed Rulk, Superman would never get close to Jim and would probably fall if he keeps getting hit by them repeatedly.
As for the rest of your post, remember this. I'm not saying that Spiderman is faster but comic wise,minus flash like characters or anime characters, Spiderman has the best combat speed feats in a comic. It ranges from blitzing Masterson Thor, someone who has speed feats himself and tagged some of the fastest beings in Marvel, to blitzing absorbing man, someone that has moved so fast that he turned into a living tornados to blitzing firelord, someone that has ftl feats as well, even matching Supermans, to blitzing entire teams before they can react.
Spiderman has dodged lightning point blank range, dodge hundreds of repulsor rays coming from Ironman point blank range as well, sliding in between the cracks. Created 10 to 20 after images before a person could even get off an attack and doing multiple of combos during this blitz.
Guess what, even with all of these showings, Captain America can still land blows...do you want to know why... We go by consistency, not HIGH showings. The sad thing is, Spiderman has more consistent showings of using that type of speed vs any Herald but he doesn't get all the hype that these Heralds tend to get. Hell, Wolverine and Spiderman looks better against bricks than almost any Herald but they still do not get the hype that heralds tend to get.
To put this all in short terms, I don't agree with your post.
I think he will blitz as well but I don't think anyone minus flash is untouchable. That's my argument. In comics, even with CIS on, people struggle to lay a finger on flash...its in character for him. Gladiator, Hyperion, Superman, Nova Prime, Wonder Woman, Mimic, Ironman, King Hyperion, Spiderman, Wolverine, Martian Manhunter, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, Zod, Ultraman, Supergirl, Powergirl, etc, etc doesn't fight in that type of fashion to say that no one will lay a finger on them.
By the way, in regards to a blitz, Hulk has tagged many.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Whats this argument about Superman not blitzing here? He has blitzed enough to say he would use it here maybe not from the start but he will
Yep. Like he did against Mongul in Infinite Crisis. At first Supes didnt blitz and slugged it out with Mongul and got beaten, but then he got back up and Blitz Mongul. He put Mongul down without Mongul even touching Supes.
So thats what he would do "in character"
I don't understand why he doesn't blitz more often really.
Well, I do know, from a writer standpoint at least, have to keep suspense going with a perceived challenge.
But from a character standpoint I don't get it. It would only aid him and others if he let loose his speed to put down dangerous foes immediately.
does anyone know or have an opinion on superman's 'best' blitz?
i hear (and myself say often) that clark or others with uber combat speeds will blitz someone. one thing i noticed though is that in most blitz scenarios, the person seems to either hit once (the initial attack) really hard before the opponent can react, OR, the blitzer tends to throw a LOT of punches, but none of them seem to be anywhere near the full power, singular blows that they CAN throw. i've usually been of the opinion that more blows=less power. shorter, less powerful punches in exchange for MORE of them. does that make sense to anyone else?
for example--clark's blitz in mongul is a good example. his blitz punches really never 'send an opponent' flying, and an opponent typically seems to 'weather' the blows better. am i way off on this? 😕
i'm genuinely curious to know what people think is superman's 'best' blitz performance, his best combo of both speed AND power. anyone? scans would be very helpful.