^About whose life? The birds around them? You really think he would destroy earth? Even under this situation? Jesus.
Originally posted by carver9
I didn't even know someone picked up that Superman destroyed a portion of the moon with that attack. I seen it as Black Racer using showers to slap Superman off of him which eventually hurt Superman hands during the process and sent him flying backwards. Show me where you got the idea of it being Supes that didn't that. The rest of your FTs, no, just no. He propelled his body at the speed of light and rammed the moon. That was more of a durability showing in which he got koed. Now if he stood on the shadow moon and punched it to dust, you would have a legit argument.
He split another moon in half during OWAW and was fine. Read the Man of Steel #116 for the BR and the moon.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
^About whose life? The birds around them? You really think he would destroy earth? Even under this situation? Jesus.He split another moon in half during OWAW and was fine. Read the Man of Steel #116 for the BR and the moon.
Again, people DIED during their fight so I'm guessing that he meant what he said
He rammed through another moon during OWAW. I never said that Superman wasn't durable. If Grey Hulk who is one of the weakest versions of the Hulk could bust through an asteroid double the size of Earth and smile afterwards while destroying it, why couldn't Superman? This isnt a contest of who can ram something the hardest because even in that case a Hulk with 1% of Current Hulk power would still win this debate.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
^Your arguments are as always very though out and without any assumptions or exaggerations. I think I missed something in this fight and I' to lazy to pick it up but who, except of Lord, died?
When he punched wondy to Earth, she landed on a couple of people, hell, a lot of people.
Originally posted by carver9
When he punched wondy to Earth, she landed on a couple of people, hell, a lot of people.
Ok, Carver you have some special Edition or something? Because she landed on a street, some cars were wrecked but Maxwell states "You got Lucky, Doesn't look like anyone was killed in your crash-down".
So... ehm in my edition... no one Died...
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Ok, Carver you have some special Edition or something? Because she landed on a street, some cars were wrecked but Maxwell states "You got Lucky, Doesn't look like anyone was killed in your crash-down".So... ehm in my edition... no one Died...
Lol...let me find the scan where he states that he doesn't care. If I find this scan, are you going to accept it? Im pretty sure people were in those cars.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...let me find the scan where he states that he doesn't care. If I find this scan, are you going to accept it? Im pretty sure people were in those cars.
Originally posted by carver9
Again, people DIED during their fight so I'm guessing that he meant what he said
So you want me to accept that just because Superman doesn't care for his life, DDs life or most unlikely the life of innocents and that he endangered innocents during his fight with WW... so you want me to accept that people died in those car, even though it's stated in the comic that no one died... I mean... seriously... you want me to accept that people died because you say so... even though the comic says they didn't... I mean... Caver... honestly.... you... you...
Originally posted by carver9Supes is stronger than all heralds. He has feats that put him above 50 Earth weights of force. No herald has proven to have 1 Earth weight of force.
Going by FT, Supes, Thor Sentry, and Savage Hulk are equals... WWH is stronger than all of them. Do you have any proof of anything you just said Supes could do. Stop talking and provide scans.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeI don't see how you can possibly ignore that a holding back Worldbreaker Hulk's footsteps were wrecking the continental coastline, while Superman has not demonstrated anywhere near that power with his footsteps while holding back or while otherwise failing to hold back.
Yes because he is holding back. I know your opinion, you know mine, circular debating isn't very entertaining.
At least you confessed that Hulk wasn't successful at holding back his strength and that this footstep wasn't a normal footstep at all.
Granting your interpretation of the story, Superman's done similar while committing his strength. He hasn't done so while reining it in.
But continuing this conversation will only lead to patronism. I'm not going to continue holding hands to point out the obvious difference between holding back and not holding back.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So you want me to accept that just because Superman doesn't care for his life, DDs life or most unlikely the life of innocents and that he endangered innocents during his fight with WW... so you want me to accept that people died in those car, even though it's stated in the comic that no one died... I mean... seriously... you want me to accept that people died because you say so... even though the comic says they didn't... I mean... Caver... honestly.... you... you...
Lol... I admit, I can't find it and I could possibly be wrong but the one thing I wasnt wrong about was Jim not holding back because he wasn't. He held back no more than what hulk held back during his crushing of the continent.
Originally posted by carver9Hulk didn't crush a continent nor a city nor anything. Even if he had then there is no proof he was holding back. Hell Galactus and other beings far more powerful than Hulk has walked the Earth without doing the footfall thing. Maybe Hulk was trying all of his might to do that non feat. And lastly, Hulk only got to that point because of special circumstances. No such circumstances exist in these forums unless the OP uses WBH in the thread.
Lol... I admit, I can't find it and I could possibly be wrong but the one thing I wasnt wrong about was Jim not holding back because he wasn't. He held back no more than what hulk held back during his crushing of the continent.
Originally posted by h1a8No. Worldbreaker Hulk was definitely not trying with all his might. Reread World War Hulk.
Hulk didn't crush a continent nor a city nor anything. Even if he had then there is no proof he was holding back. Hell Galactus and other beings far more powerful than Hulk has walked the Earth without doing the footfall thing. Maybe Hulk was trying all of his might to do that non feat.
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Originally posted by h1a8I imagine that since there was talk of an all-out Superman, an all-out Hulk would be a fair comparison. And Worldbreaker Hulk is an all-out Hulk. I would tend to agree that Worldbreaker status is irrelevant in a standard fight.
And lastly, Hulk only got to that point because of special circumstances. No such circumstances exist in these forums unless the OP uses WBH in the thread.
I'm pretty sure Hulk wasn't trying to cause that amount of damage with his footstep as it was clear he wanted to be put down before he lived up to his namesake. I personally think Superman wins this, but I'm not going to downplay Hulk's strength, either. The idea that either one is going to one shot the other is ludicrous as all hell, though.