Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Go into speed mode and do what? Avoid Hulk punches? His distance attacks will do nothing but make Hulk stronger and when he rushes in to blitz he will land a few punches but get caught. Same as Sentry.

I'd say run in, and kick his ass the same as Herc.

Except he won't stop with one punch.

Besides, Hulk can never, ever catch him. Hulk = statue to Supermans speed level. Hulk could be standing right in front of Superman, and he'd have time to finish breakfast and read the newspaper, with time for refills, before he even has to worry about dodging a single attack.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Go into speed mode and do what? Avoid Hulk punches? His distance attacks will do nothing but make Hulk stronger and when he rushes in to blitz he will land a few punches but get caught. Same as Sentry.

As someone else pointed out Arm'Chedon is an elite top tier he had both Silver Surfer & Merged Hulk incapacitated until they had to be saved and then went 1 v 1 against Surfer off-panel but for an extended period of time seemingly without damage. Hulk beat Arm'Chedon with ease, he literally walked (and talked) through a heavily amped version of the blast which was killing Surfer.

Current Hulk now that he has stopped holding back just seems to be physically above Superman.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'd say run in, and kick his ass the same as Herc.

Except he won't stop with one punch.

Besides, Hulk can never, ever catch him. Hulk = statue to Supermans speed level. Hulk could be standing right in front of Superman, and he'd have time to finish breakfast and read the newspaper, with time for refills, before he even has to worry about dodging a single attack.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman rarely if ever fights with this kind of speed from the gun. This isn't cbr where it's powerset only.

But if we were in CBR... Hulk would be phucked, right?

Originally posted by cdtm
I'd say run in, and kick his ass the same as Herc.

Except he won't stop with one punch.

Besides, Hulk can never, ever catch him. Hulk = statue to Supermans speed level. Hulk could be standing right in front of Superman, and he'd have time to finish breakfast and read the newspaper, with time for refills, before he even has to worry about dodging a single attack.

Aaaahhhh, just like he did here huh?

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Great debating.

Originally posted by Bentley
But if we were in CBR... Hulk would be phucked, right?

Originally posted by carver9
Aaaahhhh, just like he did here huh?

Great debating.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'd say run in, and kick his ass the same as Herc.

Except he won't stop with one punch.

Besides, Hulk can never, ever catch him. Hulk = statue to Supermans speed level. Hulk could be standing right in front of Superman, and he'd have time to finish breakfast and read the newspaper, with time for refills, before he even has to worry about dodging a single attack.

When has Herc kicked his ass?

What proof do you have Hulk is a statue to him? To claim such a thing would ignore the Hulks entire history and to hang onto one recent feat Superman has done. Also i'm pretty sure he did this around some humans. Are you claiming Hulk has human level speed?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
When has Herc kicked his ass?

What proof do you have Hulk is a statue to him? To claim such a thing would ignore the Hulks entire history and to hang onto one recent feat Superman has done. Also i'm pretty sure he did this around some humans. Are you claiming Hulk has human level speed?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman stopped a ship which had infinite space when supergirl, superboy, steel couldn't even slow it down and was dominating against a doomsday clone who was slapping around eradicator,kara,connor and steel at the same time. Pray tell me how sentry's speed compare to superman when sentry couldn't even speedblitz hercules who does not have any kind of superspeed after herc threw him in orbit and doesn't have any significant combat speed feat. Tell me how's hulk gonna catch superman when he can simply stretch a second into hours like when kal and barry did it in superman 709. You act like a full strength punch from superman would have no effect on hulk.

Infinite speed? 😕

The same could be said about Superman and all the other bricks he has lost to, they don't all have superspeed.

I'm not saying it would have no effect but I honestly cannot see Superman KO'ing Hulk when no one Superman's level has done so thus far. Sentry imo deals out more destructive punches than Kal going by feats and not even he could take Hulk down back in WWH. If anything Hulk seems stronger and tougher now

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not Hulk Hulk's powerset. You have to take away the character completely and just focus on abilities.

Even at CBR they hold to CIS. It's the PIS they don't include, like Hal taking an entire issue to finally kill Krona when he should have done that from the start.

What amazing speed feats does Byrne's Superman have?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
What amazing speed feats does Byrne's Superman have?

I think is the point, is that Byrne Superman would still be slow compared to current Superman.

And even Byrne Supes is fast enough to circle the globe in about a second. That a below light speed feat, but still faster than Hulks usual operating speed..

Very early Byrne typed Mxys name backwards on a giant, vehical sized, typewriter, making Mxy believe he typed it himself when it was really Supes doing it faster than Mxy could see him move.

Sigh..

People in this thread are in one of two camps:
Team Superman or Team Hulk

No amount of "proof" or feats or statements or writer interviews is ever going to make people change camps. So why is everyone trying so hard? 😕

Because Superman wins.

Originally posted by Bentley
But if we were in CBR... Hulk would be phucked, right?

👆

Originally posted by cdtm
I think is the point, is that Byrne Superman would still be slow compared to current Superman.

And even Byrne Supes is fast enough to circle the globe in about a second. That a below light speed feat, but still faster than Hulks usual operating speed..

Very early Byrne typed Mxys name backwards on a giant, vehical sized, typewriter, making Mxy believe he typed it himself when it was really Supes doing it faster than Mxy could see him move.

Nice little feats I don't think anyone would argue against Superman being faster but getting in close where Hulk is at his fastest is not a good idea also hit and run tactics aren't nearly going to be enough to take down Hulk. When Supes comes in for a blitz even at the top of his game he's going to get caught eventually and that one hit would be the opening Hulk would need

Why would he get caught eventually?

Supes is fast enough to make Hulk look like a statue relative to him.

According to herochat WB hulk as depicted in IH 632 can defeat owaw superman, classic juggernaut, nova prime and vision at the same time. How right is this as I haven't read the issue?

Originally posted by abhilegend
According to herochat WB hulk as depicted in IH 632 can defeat owaw superman, classic juggernaut, nova prime and vision at the same time. How right is this as I haven't read the issue?

I'd take anything argued at Herochat with a grain of salt, personally.. At least with CBR, you know they're arguing feats disconnected from characters, but Herochat tends to go back and forth between "Character did X feat, so he pwns" to "In the comics, character never or rarely does X, so he gets pwned".

I've seen them use double standards too, like playing down Superman beating Eclipsed Lar Gand, while playing up how Cap held his own with Eclipsed Superman, ending with a "Cap wins" conclusion...

Not to knock the forum in general.. Every place has fanboyism, and Herochat has some good posters. I just wouldn't take their word as gospal, since using someone else interpretation or opinion is pretty shaky debating tactics in general, over going to the sources yourself and hammering our opinions here.....