Okay Superman has all the tools to win this fight easily, but he won't. Superman always let his advesary throw the first punch, not saying the Hulk would KO him. But Superman would try to gauge the Hulk's strength, and while Superman may be stronger at first this is a mistake. By trying to overpower the Hulk Superman has just defeated himself. Each punch would make the Hulk stronger to the point of Doomsday. While the Hulk has no ceiling on his strength, Superman does. If Superman flew in just under light speed and threw him into space (like he should have done Doomsday, Kalibak, Darkseid) he wins easily, but he wants to be a hero. Superman's biggest flaw is his ego. In The World's Finest storyline where Batman gets Superman's powers. Batman does a better job of taking care of everything by ending it early, and leaving. Not staying around for praise, of Lois Lane to interview him. People act like I'm talking crazy when I make this argument, but it's true. In Keystone city if the Flash didn't want attention he could avoid it, he sticks around for his ego, just like Superman.
Originally posted by SIAFONThe Hulk would K.O. him for standing there.
Okay Superman has all the tools to win this fight easily, but he won't. Superman always let his advesary throw the first punch, not saying the Hulk would KO him. But Superman would try to gauge the Hulk's strength, and while Superman may be stronger at first this is a mistake. By trying to overpower the Hulk Superman has just defeated himself. Each punch would make the Hulk stronger to the point of Doomsday. While the Hulk has no ceiling on his strength, Superman does. If Superman flew in just under light speed and threw him into space (like he should have done Doomsday, Kalibak, Darkseid) he wins easily, but he wants to be a hero. Superman's biggest flaw is his ego. In The World's Finest storyline where Batman gets Superman's powers. Batman does a better job of taking care of everything by ending it early, and leaving. Not staying around for praise, of Lois Lane to interview him. People act like I'm talking crazy when I make this argument, but it's true. In Keystone city if the Flash didn't want attention he could avoid it, he sticks around for his ego, just like Superman.
Carver's theories are pure gold. I mean namor broke crimson band of cyttorak which once contained galactus so namor>galactus. Thor admitted he couldn't beat hulk ever including savage hulk, so savage hulk>thor. But he while dying bfred an amped hulk which three herald levelers including armaggedon>surfer+merged hulk couldn't even budge. So because surfer no sold savage hulk's punches, surfer>savage hulk. So savage Hulk>thor>three heralds>silver surfer+merged hulk> savage hulk. And because Hyperion no sold mjlonir and nefaria laughed at thor when it bounced of his chest or it bounced of magneto's shield and mjlonir destroyed exitar's domepiece it would take a more than celestial harming shot to even phase them. Oh and vision at 90 tons>mjlonir. I say because superman's HV destroyed Darkseid's forcefield who was dragging multiverse down with him, HV can destroy any herald or because it seal down holes in reality along with astro force which once contained a universe destroying energy blast HV is universe buster level energy blast.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Carver's theories are pure gold. I mean namor broke crimson band of cyttorak which once contained galactus so namor>galactus. Thor admitted he couldn't beat hulk ever including savage hulk, so savage hulk>thor. But he while dying bfred an amped hulk which three herald levelers including armaggedon>surfer+merged hulk couldn't even budge. So because surfer no sold savage hulk's punches, surfer>savage hulk. So savage Hulk>thor>three heralds>silver surfer+merged hulk> savage hulk. And because Hyperion no sold mjlonir and nefaria laughed at thor when it bounced of his chest or it bounced of magneto's shield and mjlonir destroyed exitar's domepiece it would take a more than celestial harming shot to even phase them. Oh and vision at 90 tons>mjlonir. I say because superman's HV destroyed Darkseid's forcefield who was dragging multiverse down with him, HV can destroy any herald or because it seal down holes in reality along with astro force which once contained a universe destroying energy blast HV is universe buster level energy blast.
Cry me a river.
Superman isn't winning this fight. This has nothing to do with statements (which are just as usable as the statement of Superman heat vision being as hot as a star or the statement that was used stating Superman is one of the most powerful heroes on Earth or the statement where Superman stated he isn't holding back against Adam anymore). Thor admitted he couldn't stop Hulk, Hulk has ripped adamantium recently, broke Uru metal, backlash of power destroyed a planet along with nearby planets, tanked hits from high heralds without budging. Tanked a planet exploding on him without a scratch. Thunder clapped a freaking dimensional barrier that was was put into place by Umar, a freaking high end skyfather (and the barrier was there to prevent a super human race called the Mindless ones from roaming the planet). Hulk backlash of power was melting Heralds like candy.
Right now, Hulk IS the Prime Brute. Superman fighting V&V Despero is just the icing on the cake. Superman fighting Grundy was just the icing on the cake. Darkseid ain't sh**. Superman fighting Doomsday is just the icing on the cake. None of these people are physically on Hulks level.
Originally posted by carver9
Cry me a river.Superman isn't winning this fight. This has nothing to do with statements (which are just as usable as the statement of Superman heat vision being as hot as a star or the statement that was used stating Superman is one of the most powerful heroes on Earth or the statement where Superman stated he isn't holding back against Adam anymore). Thor admitted he couldn't stop Hulk, Hulk has ripped adamantium recently, broke Uru metal, backlash of power destroyed a planet along with nearby planets, tanked hits from high heralds without budging. Tanked a planet exploding on him without a scratch. Thunder clapped a freaking dimensional barrier that was was put into place by Umar, a freaking high end skyfather (and the barrier was there to prevent a super human race called the Mindless ones from roaming the planet). Hulk backlash of power was melting Heralds like candy.
Right now, Hulk IS the Prime Brute. Superman fighting V&V Despero is just the icing on the cake. Superman fighting Grundy was just the icing on the cake. Darkseid ain't sh**. Superman fighting Doomsday is just the icing on the cake. None of these people are physically on Hulks level.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
minus the crisesoh ofcoarse it's warner brothers doing
Why? I mean, I'm genuinely curious.
Originally posted by carver9
Cry me a river.Superman isn't winning this fight. This has nothing to do with statements (which are just as usable as the statement of Superman heat vision being as hot as a star or the statement that was used stating Superman is one of the most powerful heroes on Earth or the statement where Superman stated he isn't holding back against Adam anymore). Thor admitted he couldn't stop Hulk, Hulk has ripped adamantium recently, broke Uru metal, backlash of power destroyed a planet along with nearby planets, tanked hits from high heralds without budging. Tanked a planet exploding on him without a scratch. Thunder clapped a freaking dimensional barrier that was was put into place by Umar, a freaking high end skyfather (and the barrier was there to prevent a super human race called the Mindless ones from roaming the planet). Hulk backlash of power was melting Heralds like candy.
Right now, Hulk IS the Prime Brute. Superman fighting V&V Despero is just the icing on the cake. Superman fighting Grundy was just the icing on the cake. Darkseid ain't sh**. Superman fighting Doomsday is just the icing on the cake. None of these people are physically on Hulks level.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why so angry carver, I didn't use any statements everything I mentioned happened in comics. Superman once shattered time and space just by punching another superman and no there was no mention of DCU being in flux so it happened. Hulk broke secondary adamantium, it is like thanos each low end feat would be retconned as being clones. Thor has carved uru and turned it into dust between his fingers. Superman has also tanked a planet exploding and tanked an exploding sun eater twice. Hyperion and nefaria tanked a true high herald's shots without budging. Superman oneshotted a forcefield by an entity that was dragging entire multiverse just by its presence. Orion shook entire earth by fighting on moon, prime broke free from phantom zone while being immaterial. Yes, superman oneshotting despero is icing on the cake, a young superman killing the undead grundy in two punches who just stomped alan scott is icing on cake, superman one shotting john stewart's shield who once contained a solar system destroying blast and whose will was too much for a gl ring which once contained a supernova and a big bang is icing on cake. After all I am using your own logic, stack high end feats on high end feats for your favorites and do the opposite for the characters you dislikes.
Time and space was going ballistic during the Supermans fight. Thor admitted to Hyperion during their second encounter that the only reason his hammer shot did nothing the first time was because he was holding back. Show me these Heralds tanking these attacks that you've mentioned. I don't think you know the difference between tanking and surviving.
Thor never crushed Uru...I know of the scene you speak of, him making a hammer out of DIRT...that wasn't Uru.
Your argument is lame. Just remember, Hulk almost shedded a planet with a mere footstep, while holding back. He can transform into this mode at will. When you accept this, accept that Hulk is the embodiment of strength, come and talk to me but until then, I'm in the background laughing at your terrible posts.
