Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by carver9
Can't wait. I wonder if this attitude thing Supes has going on with him right now is temporary? If not, do you think this change will show him not holding back depending on the threat. With the attitude he has, I can see him cutting lose more often than not.

I think Wonder Woman is going to have a grand entrance as well but I wonder if she will be as powerful as he classic self.

I know you don't know all of these answer Pr Burnside you think they got rid of Captain Marvel?

It's an attitude he's going to grow out of as he gets older, but he may still be different to how he used to be; we'll have to wait and see.

She should be reasonably powerful; though yeah, we have to wait and see.

Captain Marvel is alive and well. He's going to have his own back-up stories written by Johns.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The Superman writers/editors said they're going to be retroactively adding in old stories in to current Superman's past, but what they are and how they might apply is as vague as hell right now.

I really don't understand what the hell DC is doing now with its continuity.

It's just a jumbled mess.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I really don't understand what the hell DC is doing now with its continuity.

It's just a jumbled mess.

EDIT: I hoped they would reboot each title with a new and once and for all carved in stone origin etc.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I really don't understand what the hell DC is doing now with its continuity.

It's just a jumbled mess.

If you look at it from a continuity standpoint, yes. That's not what DC is doing this for, though; it's about giving new readers a place to jump on without having to worry about being lost, and so far they've done that, because you can read these new stories for the most part without having to have read the old ones.

The Lantern stuff sticks out like a sore thumb, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If you look at it from a continuity standpoint, yes. That's not what DC is doing this for, though; it's about giving new readers a place to jump on without having to worry about being lost, and so far they've done that, because you can read these new stories for the most part without having to have read the old ones.

The Lantern stuff sticks out like a sore thumb, though.

The problem with that idea is, how are they getting these new readers anyway?

It seems to me outside of current comic book readers, this new reboot is going unnoticed.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
The problem with that idea is, how are they getting these new readers anyway?

It seems to me outside of current comic book readers, this new reboot is going unnoticed.

I'd say there's the people who might pass along a #1 to a friend thinking that it's easier for them to start off there. Or someone that's been away from comics for a while, and now has a reason to come back. I think the fact that it made major news, too, is something that might draw people in to have a look.

Then, there are the second generation people. The people like me, who one day will be able to hand down their issue 1's to their kids or whatever, without having to use a comic from the 80s as a starting point.

In a comic book story, Superman would struggle with Hulk.

But what's to stop a villain with his stats from simply grabbing Hulk by the leg or something, and throwing him into the sun? Even if that doesn't kill him, the suns gravity and his inability to fly means he's stuck there...

What's to stop Thor from doing the soul suck on Supes 10/10? What's to stop Surfer from creating Black Holes in Thor brain 10/10? What's to stop Magneto from giving Wonder Woman a planetary level stroke 10/10? What's to stop Gladiator from tossing Doomsday in the sun 10/10?

Originally posted by carver9
[QUOTE=13578728]Originally posted by cdtm
[B]In a comic book story, Superman would struggle with Hulk.

But what's to stop a villain with his stats from simply grabbing Hulk by the leg or something, and throwing him into the sun? Even if that doesn't kill him, the suns gravity and his inability to fly means he's stuck there... [QUOTE]

What's to stop Thor from doing the soul suck on Supes 10/10? What's to stop Surfer from creating Black Holes in Thor brain 10/10? What's to stop Magneto from giving Wonder Woman a planetary level stroke 10/10? What's to stop Gladiator from tossing Doomsday in the sun 10/10? [/B]

I'm not sure Surfer can whip out black holes like Sue can do force fields, and WW's magic might protect her..

Otherwise, good points on fight enders that rarely happen. And yet, Hulk smashes 10/10?

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm not sure Surfer can whip out black holes like Sue can do force fields, and WW's magic might protect her..

Otherwise, good points on fight enders that rarely happen. And yet, Hulk smashes 10/10?

Surfer has easily created Black Holes and Star dust has as well. No Herald should be able to hang with them iyo.

Lol...magic protects Wonder Woman huh? Lol.

Rarely happens? Show me someone getting tossed in the sun all the way from Earth.

So do you admit that the people I named pull a 10/10 against the people in my previous post? I'm using your same LAME argument.

Originally posted by carver9
What's to stop Thor from doing the soul suck on Supes 10/10? What's to stop Surfer from creating Black Holes in Thor brain 10/10? What's to stop Magneto from giving Wonder Woman a planetary level stroke 10/10? What's to stop Gladiator from tossing Doomsday in the sun 10/10?

Well, the first three are more unlikely, and you'd be lucky if they'd even work in the first place.

And the fact that it's not nearly the same thing.

The last one is just a BFR. A tactic Superman had tried, but Doomsday is notoriously hard to BFR without putting serious effort in to it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Well, the first three are more unlikely, and you'd be lucky if they'd even work in the first place.

The last one is just a BFR. A tactic Superman had tried, but Doomsday is notoriously hard to BFR without putting serious effort in to it.

Supes had the opportunity, but decided to throw him into Cadamus's petrified forest city instead..

Originally posted by cdtm
Supes had the opportunity, but decided to throw him into Cadamus's petrified forest city instead..

He was too busy trying to help people to seriously commit to it, imo. Besides, PIS had to be utlilised too lol

Originally posted by -Pr-
He was too busy trying to help people to seriously commit to it, imo. Besides, PIS had to be utlilised too lol

So you admit Supes would toss Hulk in the sun?

Originally posted by carver9
So you admit Supes would toss Hulk in the sun?

No; he's not a killer. Not saying the sun would kill the Hulk, but Superman wouldn't know that.

I can see him tossing him in to orbit or to another country or even just a general bfr several miles away, though. He's done that kind of thing more than once.

Originally posted by carver9
So you admit Supes would toss Hulk in the sun?

He could, but he wouldn't under normal circumstances. He wouldn't need to anyway.

Does Hulk need to breath?

And wouldn't the sun just keep damaging him until his healing factor overloads? Compared to most class 100's, his durability seems fairly weak, and dependent on a strong hf..

Originally posted by cdtm
Does Hulk need to breath?

And wouldn't the sun just keep damaging him until his healing factor overloads? Compared to most class 100's, his durability seems fairly weak, and dependent on a strong hf..

I'm sure the healing factor shown during the fight wouldn't put Superman off putting him in to orbit.

Originally posted by killer_creed
He could, but he wouldn't under normal circumstances. He wouldn't need to anyway.

Oh yes the hell he would. There is no other way for him to win.

Originally posted by carver9
Oh yes the hell he would. There is no other way for him to win.

Yes there is.