Superman vs. Hulk

Started by Villelater444 pages

ah it has more bearing than you realize...people look...enough small strength feats mean business in numbers...because it shows the characters power on the most normal scale...which makes most sense...Superman needed to put his foot down sometimes on trains...The Hulk however never has...lets go on to the next easy feet...Speeding Vehicles

Originally posted by Villelater
ah it has more bearing than you realize...people look...enough small strength feats mean business in numbers...because it shows the characters power on the most normal scale...which makes most sense...Superman needed to put his foot down sometimes on trains...The Hulk however never has...lets go on to the next easy feet...Speeding Vehicles

lol

Originally posted by Villelater
ah it has more bearing than you realize...people look...enough small strength feats mean business in numbers...because it shows the characters power on the most normal scale...which makes most sense...Superman needed to put his foot down sometimes on trains...The Hulk however never has...lets go on to the next easy feet...Speeding Vehicles

That honestly makes no sense at all. Maybe if you were Spider-Man or something, it would, but this is Superman. Trains are small-fry.

Originally posted by Villelater
the differnce is Hulk stops trains better than Superman...that was the key point...that is a victory for hulk..a small one...
over
Originally posted by Villelater
we gotta go small steps because the bigs steps are discussed too often...
Though... the sentiment is nice, the whole "let's not get caught up on the big issues people will never come to a consensus to."

If only...

yea...Trains are one of the most powerful of small-frys...next to Speeding Vehicles and Tanks...each a test of the character...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This thread makes me so happy.

Heavy hitters struggling with small fry basically comes down to dramatic lisence.. Like Srank said on God of War:

srankmissingnin
Kratos always makes me laugh. Dude has as much trouble lifting a set of car keys as he does moving around a 100 ton boulder. Everything he does is so dramatic, he can stop himself from getting crushed by a Titan, but he has just as much trouble opening a chest. He makes everything look like it is the most difficult activity in the world.

YouTube video

God of War takes the concept to the extreme, but comics have done this since forever..

Any time Superman gets driven through a building by a semi truck, or struggles stopping a moving locomotive, it's a good bet that's PIS for drama reasons..

what if it almost always happens? how can we tell if it's just merely dramatic? i understand bullets,tankshells,etc. but what makes superman put his foot down on trains? why does it take a sec...is it because Superman is smaller than Hulk? has Superman punched out an entire mountain?...

Originally posted by Villelater
what if it almost always happens? how can we tell if it's just merely dramatic? i understand bullets,tankshells,etc. but what makes superman put his foot down on trains? why does it take a sec...is it because Superman is smaller than Hulk? has Superman punched out an entire mountain?...

it's because superman knows that if he stops the train dead, everyone inside will be killed.

Superman has lifted mountains before.

lifting with the help of flight...but i said punching...a mountain can take how many nukes?

Who says flight makes him stronger?

Originally posted by Villelater

ah it has more bearing than you realize...people look...enough small strength feats mean business in numbers...because it shows the characters power on the most normal scale...which makes most sense...Superman needed to put his foot down sometimes on trains...The Hulk however never has...lets go on to the next easy feet...Speeding Vehicles

Originally posted by -Pr-
That honestly makes no sense at all. Maybe if you were Spider-Man or something, it would, but this is Superman. Trains are small-fry.

You are quite mistaken, P.R.

Villelater is making a point that industry professionals themselves have made. Unfortunately, he's not communicating the point particularly well and people are harassing and trying to fluster him for reasons known only to themselves.

The concept is sound, though.

It was voiced by Grant Morrison a year or two back.
It was voiced roughly 2 decades before THAT by a man who undertook a similar revamp of Superman in the DCU:

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Mr. [John] Byrne, who lives in Connecticut, said he got the idea of making Superman more human when he saw the first ''Superman'' movie. At the end of that film, Byrne recalled, Superman had to struggle to rip off a car door to get to Lois Lane, and everyone in the movie theater cheered. Byrne said he realized, '' 'Of course, that's it. Here's something everyone can relate to.' Now Superman can still push a mountain, but he's going to have to work at it, and grunt and sweat a bit.''

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Focusing on the "small fry" also translated into big bucks:

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Mr. Byrne said the Man of Steel needed a new image. ''Every once in a while you have to shake the bag,'' he said. In the nine months since what he called ''the renovated Superman'' appeared, sales of the series have nearly doubled, he said.
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http://www.nytimes.com/1987/06/14/nyregion/cartoonists-explain-superman-s-new-image-to-his-fans.html

It might help sales, but it doesn't affect his strength, nor does it actually matter in a forum fight. We go by averages. On average, Superman won't struggle with a car door or a train.

We don't go by PIS.

Hmm, let's go small.

VS

Oh my.

Also, bluewater, stop running away and hiding - or have you conceded? I see no response from you except vague deflections and disjointed mumblings.

well in that its PIG because in most cases Superman does something extra against Trains...almost always...hey how big is an explosion from 50,000 tons of TNT? oh and the snake is merely on the cover

Originally posted by cdtm
Heavy hitters struggling with small fry basically comes down to dramatic lisence.. Like Srank said on God of War:

YouTube video

God of War takes the concept to the extreme, but comics have done this since forever..

Any time Superman gets driven through a building by a semi truck, or struggles stopping a moving locomotive, it's a good bet that's PIS for drama reasons..


This is a nice little example of that:
Originally posted by TheGodKiller


Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It wasn't .

Originally posted by Villelater
well in that its PIG because in most cases Superman does something extra against Trains...almost always...hey how big is an explosion from 50,000 tons of TNT?

smaller than 100 nukes, i'm guessing.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hmm, let's go small.

bluewater, stop running away and hiding - or have you conceded?
I see no response from you except vague deflections and disjointed mumblings.

There's not enough in the Cayman Islands to keep you occupied?

Thanks for that hint with the word "juiciness", but I knew who you were
long before that. Out of all the other comic book forums I've visited over the years, there is ONE particular word I have NEVER seen ANYone use save yourself. It confirmed your identity long before yesterday.

Back on topic, I'm actually interested in seeing the snake choke-out scene you're alluding to. Can you post it? For I actually know of another, which is the image I've attached, but this one I'm posting is definitely NOT the Princess Python episode everyone talks about:

And you, blue? Who do you say I am?

Because I can guarantee 100%, this is my only account that I have ever had on this or any other comic book vs forum. You better bring some proof, so that I can see how good your deductive and reasoning skills are (so far, I haven't seen any evidence).

Originally posted by Villelater
lifting with the help of flight...but i said punching...a mountain can take how many nukes?

Yeah, but didn't you argue that Hulk could fly?