Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And you, blue? Who do you say I am?

Because I can guarantee 100%, this is my only account that I have ever had on this or any other comic book vs forum. You better bring some proof, so that I can see how good your deductive and reasoning skills are (so far, I haven't seen any evidence).

No, stay in character.

I remember the "dry" comment from before, though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
didn't you argue that Hulk could fly?

In at least one point in the past, Hulk COULD fly. Did you click on the links I gave you last night?

So, in other words, you have no proof, and are exhibiting Super Friends-Batman level of deduction.

Without the part about actually being correct.

That's OK.

And sure, in the past, and so I asked if he still could. Your response was that you would rather reference a more recent example, correct? So...can he still fly?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Who says flight makes [Superman] stronger?

Whoever wrote the following scenes, for one ... 😬

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040614
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040634
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040615
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040630

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Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Adventures_of_Superman_Vol_1_436

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041378

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041381

Source: BienSalsa

When the Hulks fly, do they get stronger too?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Whoever wrote the following scenes, for one ... 😬

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040614
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040634
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040615
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14040630

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Source: Adventures of Superman #436, Volume 1
Writers: John Byrne & Jerry Ordway
Penciller: Jerry Ordway
Date: January 1988
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Adventures_of_Superman_Vol_1_436

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041378

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14041381

Source: BienSalsa

We've talked about that before. It's already been retconned to hell and back.

Almost everything John Byrne wrote about how Superman's powers work, became invalid once he left the book.

PR if thats soo...how does superman fly? and Hulks jumping momentum should be enough

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When the Hulks fly, do they get stronger too?

fine Darksaint i'll answer since you ignore me...answer is yes...ain't hard to figure out

Originally posted by Villelater
PR if thats soo...how does superman fly? and Hulks jumping momentum should be enough

There's no explanation for it. He just flies. There've been arguments made that it's because of Earth's lower gravity etc, but that doesn't really make much sense.

Originally posted by Villelater
fine Darksaint i'll answer since you ignore me...answer is yes...ain't hard to figure out

Ok. I just wanted to see if you were bold enough to admit that yes, the Hulk are able to fly.

Since that is the case, according to you, and since they DO get stronger when they fly - why don't they replicate Superman's space feats?

Originally posted by -Pr-
There's no explanation for it. He just flies.

If you don't have any explanation for it, how do you know his flight doesn't follow the John Byrne model? Especially when other elements like Clark getting his powers during adolescence, having enough mental ability to override the Eradicator protocols in Superman #6, and Clark being his primary identity as opposed to Superman, all John Byrne-like elements, have remained intact? 😬

wait...wait...wait...are you saying there isn't an explanation why Superman can fly? Haarrrmmm!!! then how can you dismiss Superman talking about his power of flying while holding large objects?...there must be an answer...and darksaint don't make me look like an idiot...if you jump at Super-Sonic speed surely force alone would increase

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
If you don't have any explanation for it, how do you know his flight [b]doesn't follow the John Byrne model? Especially when other elements like Clark getting his powers during adolescence, having enough mental ability to override the Eradicator protocols in Superman #6, and Clark being his primary identity as opposed to Superman, all John Byrne-like elements, have remained intact? 😬 [/B]

Because it's not up to me to prove a negative. It's up to people who claim he DOES get help from flight, to prove it. Burden of proof.

Simple: John Byrne's way of describing how his powers worked, is completely contradicted by every writer after that, both in power level and how they work.

Story threads are not the same thing.

Originally posted by Villelater
wait...wait...wait...are you saying there isn't an explanation why Superman can fly? Haarrrmmm!!! then how can you dismiss Superman talking about his power of flying while holding large objects?...there must be an answer...

There must be, but that doesn't mean you can make one up.

PR your job is to give answers...your on team Superman...i ask questions others give answers...unless i need to answer

That's right Villelater! Tell PR off.

Originally posted by Villelater
PR your job is to give answers...your on team Superman...i ask questions others give answers...unless i need to answer

I can't tell you something that the comics haven't told us. Otherwise I'd be making something up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Because it's not up to me to prove a negative. It's up to people who claim he DOES get help from flight, to prove it. Burden of proof.

There must be, but that doesn't mean you can make one up.

Like when you claim I'm in the Cayman Islands, and that I secretly have another account somewhere.

Originally posted by Villelater
PR your job is to give answers...your on team Superman...i ask questions others give answers...unless i need to answer

Originally posted by -Pr-
I can't tell you something that the comics haven't told us. Otherwise I'd be making something up.

Like the ability of the Hulk and other Hulk characters to fly.

Originally posted by Badabing
Pr is a disappointment. Get used to it. 😬

You're a disappointment to evolution.

Originally posted by Badabing
Pr is a disappointment. Get used to it. 😬

Quiet, dry toast.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like the ability of the Hulk and other Hulk characters to fly.

😂