Originally posted by quanchi112Prove Luthor had anything to do with the force of Superman fighting Superman destroying the planet. lol. Good luck.
No, sorry but they can try but I many can debunk especially the infinite crisis feats due to reality itself being toyed with by Luthor. False. Infinite Crisis but like I said that guy is Superman's peer. Hulk didn't have any peers in that story. Hulk's been shown to crush his enemies such as Rulk once he unleashes. Superman benefited from the events of ic along with a peer. Hulk had to have a peer created since he was beyond anyone else in that story.Hulk can destroy a planet simply by holding back and existing. That's how powerful he is.
He had no equal because Superman wasnt there.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
😕You DID take a look at the distance Hulk made Superman cover with that punch/throw in Double Lives featured in my image attachment, yes?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14131877
Etrigan the Demon knocked him to the moon.
Which doesn't make it any less impressive, but it's high end class 100 stuff, not Worldbreaker.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How many Superman comics have you read where the brick who fights Superman never touches him ?
Enough that it's an option in battle.
Originally posted by carver9
This...Just like Konvikt, The General, Despero, Grundy, and Shaggyman are all JLA busters, and Hulk is far stronger than all of them.
You never learn, do you. Warned.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
@DarkSaintDude, Power Girl was on Supes' side in Public Enemies, she wasn't serious 😬 Neither was GL or Katana...
And just because he's shown fighting multiple opponents in one page means very little since Batman is doing the same...
Not at first she wasn't. You're thinking of the movie, i think 😛
Originally posted by JuntaiYou can choose to believe it didn't but from what I remember the landscape of reality was fragile due to his reshaping the it. I don't have the infinite crisis on my pc.
Prove Luthor had anything to do with the force of Superman fighting Superman destroying the planet. lol. Good luck.He had no equal because Superman wasnt there.
Originally posted by -Pr-
She eventually turned, yes. But when they fought in the scans posted, she wasn't on his side.
I don't think so. Katana and PG seemed to be working for the duo before that. Hence Batman thanking Katana for the info right after that encounter with Cap's squad, asking her for Toyman's location and PG's comment about "playing spy vs. spy" with Major Force.
Originally posted by JuntaiThe feeling is mutual.
Sorry, I'm quoting you because I'm addressing you, but we've built up some fairly massive text over the last couple of posts, so I removed it and we'll continue from here, though I'm afraid there isn't much farther to go and we don't seem to be very much in disagreement here. I'm just enjoying the back and forth with someone knowledgeable and reasonable, which is a good change-up from the norm.
Originally posted by JuntaiNot even going to bother dignifying that underlined part with a response.
We've already established that we both think more often than not, it will come to fisticuffs, but you seemed concerned on why the debate would hinge or turn drastically into all the other stuff Superman 'could' do, and other 'powers he brings to the fight', since the onset of your joining the thread a couple pages ago.Hulk over this last stretch, for probably the first time in a very long time, has accumulated enough feats in and out of combat successively to finally be considered in Superman's strength bracket again. Some might wank a couple of Hulks, some might wank a couple of Superman's...
Originally posted by JuntaiNot blaming them for anything that you've traced so far in the above.
But any reasonable man willing to look objectively at the two characters in terms of standing toe-to-toe fisticuffs fight is going to realize it's the unstoppable force and the immovable object.A split; now perhaps one person would tip the needle a bit one way, and some would tip it another based entirely off of who's feat they felt was impressive that month, but the result is fairly similar anyways.
From this point, any supporting supporter of either character is going to eventually get called out, "[b] Why
do you believe 'so-and-so' would win?"We'll start with, he knocked out this guy, he lifted that object, he fought this team really well, etc.
After that is done, one side [in this case, Superman's supporters in the thread], will ultimate look for other options, because the lifting/striking/dominant performances aren't getting too far.
These 'other options', will often begin with "the path of least resistance', e.g; things like battlefield removal, and eventually other showings will come to light.
And who can blame them? [/b]
Originally posted by JuntaiWhat I am blaming them for, is the rather strong impression they've given me that Hulk is supposed to have no realistic chance because of these other options that Superman's extra powerset presents whereas Hulk generally has nothing else but superstrength.
It's not that they're dominating the conversation because they're Superman's ONLY options at winning, they're merely being explored because they're Superman's OTHER avenues to victory when "My guy punches harder", "No my guy punches harder" wasn't getting anywhere.Because when push comes to shove, Superman is the one with the capacity to add other considerations to the fight, and he'll he'd also likely be the one to think of something first between the two based on his history of using his closed-powerset to the fullest.
Which is fine on it's own; except for that it usually is accompanied by a double-standard: various DC superbricks have a chance, Hulk doesn't. But I'd rather not beg for a response or an explanation.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Sounds like Carter's wet dream
Hulk, back in the 40s when they didn't have green ink because of war shortages, was regularly kicking Superman's but ✅
There's also that story where the Kents want to adopt Amadeus Cho to make up for the disappointment of the gimpish kid they found in the field that day.