Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't see that as a weakness at all.
This raises a point, though:
Pak established that Hulk and Banner are not different characters, and never have been.
The new series re-establishes the status quo of two separate characters.
So does this retcon everything Pak did, then?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85The bullet usually breaks off and doesn't remain intact. Hulk no sold it like a champ.
Nope, which is why I don't use that Saturn moon feat as a strength feat.Its the same as shooting a bullet at a wall. If the wall shatters, does that make my bullet strong? Or does it mean that my gun is powerful?
Originally posted by quanchi112
No.
That's a pretty critical change, though.
As big of a change as Krypto going from being a Phantom Zone character, to being Supermans pet on Krypton.
Pak said they're one and the same, and the new writers say different.. Which means, Pak's wish for "Banner" being the same thing "Hulk" wants couldn't have happened. Therefore, there's no way Banner would wish to remain as the monster. And, the new story has them become separated anyways, by Doom.
It breaks a lot of his story. And who knows what else is broken... (I haven't really kept up, but it wouldn't surprise me if this new Hulk just ignores all of Pak's continuity, considering how OOC Hulk and Banner were acting..)
Originally posted by cdtmThey have different views on the character which many writers do. You really try hard to ignore the Hulk's best feats. I got to hand it to you.
That's a pretty critical change, though.As big of a change as Krypto going from being a Phantom Zone character, to being Supermans pet on Krypton.
Pak said they're one and the same, and the new writers say different.. Which means, Pak's wish of "Banner" getting what he wanted in the wish couldn't have been the same thing "Hulk" wanted to have happen.
It breaks a lot of his story. And who knows what else is broken... (I haven't really kept up, but it wouldn't surprise me if this new Hulk just ignores all of Pak's continuity, considering how OOC Hulk and Banner were acting..)
Originally posted by quanchi112
They have different views on the character which many writers do. You really try hard to ignore the Hulk's best feats. I got to hand it to you.
This isn't about different views, Quanchi, it's a question of whether Pak's story remains intact. You can't really deny Banner and Hulk wishing to remain one and the same, yet going to Doom to be put into different bodies just doesn't mesh. It's a major plot hole.
This isn't some half baked attempt to downplay Hulk...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Long story short it's both and very impressive but like I said the feat does nothing for me personally in terms of deciding an outcome. When the Superman fans want to compare nuts sizes I will throw it out there.
Never said it was digital like that. I said it was MORE of a durability feat than a strength feat, not that it was just a durability feat.If anything, yeah, a good strength feat for his jumping muscles....
Originally posted by quanchi112
Long story short it's both and very impressive but like I said the feat does nothing for me personally in terms of deciding an outcome. When the Superman fans want to compare nuts sizes I will throw it out there.
Agreed. I still think the Dark Dimension feat is better 😉