Superman vs. Hulk

Started by carver9444 pages

Like I said before, I know Superman has super speed so I don't know why you posted that. Why wouldn't I think Superman could achieve light in space? He's a Herald...people like Super Skrull ha achieved light speed and Superman is above him. I'm asking for combat fts.

Thats not a combat feat?

So you think he can only reach Lightspeed in Space ? And his reactions are below lightspeed ?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Thats not a combat feat?

So you think he can only reach Lightspeed in Space ? And his reactions are below lightspeed ?

ABHI...

Do you think Surfer have light speed combat?

Superman's Superspeed is different than Hulk running 100+mph. Hulk uses strength in his leg muscles to improve his running speed. We even saw that in the first movie. But that's completely different than superman's Superspeed.

Not only is superman faster but his mental faculties are also operating at Superspeed. This is why he can read a book Super fast. Search a planet superfast. Instead of running in straight line, he is running, stopping, changing directions opening doors or avoiding objects. This is like him building a city super fast.

DCNU Superman read every medical book on planet earth in a matter of seconds. That's real superspeed not just running/flying from point A to B. There is so much involved with this in addition to running/flying. Turning pages from books or downloading from online repositories, reading/remembering/understanding. Superman's flying/running, hand eye coordination and his mental faculties were all operating at super speeds. Sure the hulk can run 1000mph but if superman really used his Superspeed, the Hulk will never see him.

He read every medical book in 5 min.

Originally posted by carver9
He read every medical book in 5 min.
Ok, I'll give you that, been awhile since i read that comic and don't remember exactly how long. But what's faster, turning a page or throwing a punch?

This is why I believe that this speed reading feat can be used as a combat feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend

He flew from pluto to earth in one minute and searched the earth to find a cloaked teleportation on whole earth.

That's a crazy flight speed feat but where does combat speed come in?

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom10.jpg

Here is flash fighting at light speed. What hero did the writer place in the picture and have it stated that NOT ONE of flash friends can help? Superman CANNOT fight at light speed as shown and stated on-panel. There is not one scan that can be shown stating or showing superman fighting any character at light speed. Case closed.

Originally posted by -Pr-
He's not even remotely as fast as Superman.

That said, this match is a toss up right now I think.

Aways lowballing Superman only to match Carver's opinions.

Originally posted by carver9
He read every medical book in 5 min.
Owned.

Originally posted by JBL
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom10.jpg

Here is flash fighting at light speed. What hero did the writer place in the picture and have it stated that NOT ONE of flash friends can help? Superman CANNOT fight at light speed as shown and stated on-panel. There is not one scan that can be shown stating or showing superman fighting any character at light speed. Case closed.

👆

Originally posted by JBL
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom10.jpg

Here is flash fighting at light speed. What hero did the writer place in the picture and have it stated that NOT ONE of flash friends can help? Superman CANNOT fight at light speed as shown and stated on-panel. There is not one scan that can be shown stating or showing superman fighting any character at light speed. Case closed.

Wow!

Originally posted by JBL
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom10.jpg

Here is flash fighting at light speed. What hero did the writer place in the picture and have it stated that NOT ONE of flash friends can help? Superman CANNOT fight at light speed as shown and stated on-panel. There is not one scan that can be shown stating or showing superman fighting any character at light speed. Case closed.

Defend your king, Abhi!

Originally posted by JBL
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom10.jpg

Here is flash fighting at light speed. What hero did the writer place in the picture and have it stated that NOT ONE of flash friends can help? Superman CANNOT fight at light speed as shown and stated on-panel. There is not one scan that can be shown stating or showing superman fighting any character at light speed. Case closed.

Define fighting at light speed?

Moving body at light speed? Superman has done that
Reacting to light speed movements? Superman has done that

Showing Superman not fighting at light speed in ONE panel of ONE comic doesn't prove he can't. That's like showing Spider-man get hit by a slow moving attack and claim he can't move as fast as a bullet.

I can show you where Superman blitzed faster than his hv or even moved so fast in combat that he blocked light speed attacks by moving back and forth or when he was operating in within nanoseconds (walking around and talking casually) where everyone else was frozen solid.

Whether Superman can fight at light speed is irrelevant to this fight since the speed difference is vast. He can move orders of magnitude faster than Hulk and respond in orders of magnitude quicker. And that will still be true if you allow Superman only 10% of the top speed he has shown in comics. That is all that matters.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not bringing up light speed, read the above please and see who brought it up. I don't think Hulk is light speed.
That's a FTL combat speed feat no matter how much you think its not.

Originally posted by carver9
ABHI...

Do you think Surfer have light speed combat?

No, he isn't.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Ok, I'll give you that, been awhile since i read that comic and don't remember exactly how long. But what's faster, turning a page or throwing a punch?

This is why I believe that this speed reading feat can be used as a combat feat.

The fact his mind is processing all that information and he is not flying at all makes it legit IMO.

Originally posted by h1a8
Define fighting at light speed?

Moving body at light speed? Superman has done that
Reacting to light speed movements? Superman has done that

Showing Superman not fighting at light speed in ONE panel of ONE comic doesn't prove he can't. That's like showing Spider-man get hit by a slow moving attack and claim he can't move as fast as a bullet.

I can show you where Superman blitzed faster than his hv or even moved so fast in combat that he blocked light speed attacks by moving back and forth or when he was operating in within nanoseconds (walking around and talking casually) where everyone else was frozen solid.

Whether Superman can fight at light speed is irrelevant to this fight since the speed difference is vast. He can move orders of magnitude faster than Hulk and respond in orders of magnitude quicker. And that will still be true if you allow Superman only 10% of the top speed he has shown in comics. That is all that matters.

I show ONE panel of ONE comic showing superman frozen like a statue while flash fights at light speed and you say that that does not prove he cannot do it, yet you claim he CAN do it by word of mouth,yet you have ZERO panels of ZERO comics but you want people to believe you? 🙁

Originally posted by Zack Fair
The fact his mind is processing all that information and he is not flying at all makes it legit IMO.
So reading fast gives superman light speed combat abilities now? 😆

Originally posted by JBL
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom10.jpg

Here is flash fighting at light speed. What hero did the writer place in the picture and have it stated that NOT ONE of flash friends can help? Superman CANNOT fight at light speed as shown and stated on-panel. There is not one scan that can be shown stating or showing superman fighting any character at light speed. Case closed.


That's not just a light speed combat. Flash and Zoom were covering every inch of earth a dozen times in less than a second and superman isn't always in superspeed. Heck, zoom was so fast that Wally had to be amped on several speedsters's speed to just perceive him too.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom2.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom3.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/ROUNDtwoZom4.jpg

Lets call Flash isn't FTL too. Superman unable to perceive a battle between two people who are so fast that even Flash couldn't see one at that speed at his normal level isn't a low feat. It just shows how fast Zoom was.

Superman has fought at FTL speed as much it pains you. Not to mention your blind hate for superman failed you to notice that its DCnU superman not post-crisis superman.

Originally posted by JBL
So reading fast gives superman light speed combat abilities now? 😆
Never said light speed.