Originally posted by Juntai
Oh but Superman, PLAYED with hulk in Marvel/DC, then leveled him in one mighty punch before Hulk could even hope to move up to his level in strength and durability? He was LETTING HULK BEAT ON HIS CHEST. Doomsday was well beyond Hulk regardless, he moved faster than light speed! Even Darkseid fled from planets to avoid him. Hulk could never move a planet with his hands, he could barely hold a mountain in Secret Wars, Supes could do that with one handed with fighting a team of super-baddies.
Originally posted by Juntai
Oh but Superman, PLAYED with hulk in Marvel/DC, then leveled him in one mighty punch before Hulk could even hope to move up to his level in strength and durability? He was LETTING HULK BEAT ON HIS CHEST. Doomsday was well beyond Hulk regardless, he moved faster than light speed! Even Darkseid fled from planets to avoid him. Hulk could never move a planet with his hands, he could barely hold a mountain in Secret Wars, Supes could do that with one handed with fighting a team of super-baddies.
Originally posted by Juntai
Oh but Superman, PLAYED with hulk in Marvel/DC, then leveled him in one mighty punch before Hulk could even hope to move up to his level in strength and durability? He was LETTING HULK BEAT ON HIS CHEST. Doomsday was well beyond Hulk regardless, he moved faster than light speed! Even Darkseid fled from planets to avoid him. Hulk could never move a planet with his hands, he could barely hold a mountain in Secret Wars, Supes could do that with one handed with fighting a team of super-baddies.
"euh, hulk shattered an asteroid twice size of the earth and He overcame the matter antimatter attraction, a feat that defies fundamental laws of physics"
Wich cosmic feat in comics doesnt?
"Oh but Superman, PLAYED with hulk in Marvel/DC"
Not according what he was saying about Hulk. And the figth itself.
"then leveled him in one mighty punch before Hulk could even hope to move up to his level in strength and durability"
The Hulk Superman fought in that crossover wasent any that could use anger to get stronger. It was the Merged/Professor version.
"Supes could do that with one handed with fighting a team of super-baddies. "
You exageratte to the extreme. He had problems helding a plane before on its own.
"Doomsday was well beyond Hulk regardless, he moved faster than light speed!"
Wich Doomsday? DOS and Hunter Prey werent moving at those speeds. Not even close.
"Even Darkseid fled from planets to avoid him"
Post Crisis Darkseid its a wuss.
"Hulk could never move a planet with his hands"
Neither can Superman without his solar "meds".
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Uhh...Superman can lift 1000 tonnes you know... Hulk in his calmed state about 75. He cant get mad before superman rips him shreds in 3 seconds...
Originally posted by olympian
"superman can lift 100.000tons, hulk can lift over 150 billions tons"Both are -nothing- compared with helding a planet. Dingo!
That was my fanboy persona.
Oh wait, scratch that. He did do that one.
The 4 separate occasions involving objects the size of moons + Magedon and War World do suggest that Superman has come closer to moving whole planets.
Hulks has performed feats that are apparently on a planetary level, but there is alot of skepticism surrounding these events. E.G. Grey Hulk destroying that asteroid. I tend to ignore Planetary feats. I see them as writers momentary lapses in judgement. Unless there is some myth surrounding them E.G. Thor and Herc.
I don't think even Supes should be at this level. Moving Celestial Objects should be a feat reserved for truly Cosmic Characters. Then we will know how much more powerful they are. E.G. Superman can move mountain's but Spectre can move entire planets.
P.S. that Page that says that Supes can only lift 100 kilo tons is out of date. It was created around the era before he became Superman Blue. It also doesn't take into consideration various feats. Its like Hulk being labeled as class 100.
"I tend to ignore Planetary feats. I see them as writers momentary lapses in judgement. Unless there is some myth surrounding them E.G. Thor and Herc. "
Nah in theyr case, its not the writters making things up (was that what you wer trying to say?). Both the Earth and lifting a part of the serpent (no measurable weight given) are from the myths.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Err... gotta disagree here. Sure, Hulk could become much stronger than Superman. Superman is still way faster, and smarter, and he can fly. A pissed off Hulk is almost impossible to KO, but if all else fails, Superman could chuck Hulk into orbit. Superman most definitely has the advantage in this fight. He takes it.Hulk's coloring has nothing to do with this fight... 😕
Superman uses heat vision through the eyes like he did to Manchester Black and hits him full force in the brain and kills him.
Or sucks the air out of his lungs from across the battlefield like he to another guy during his fight with The Elite.
Or knocks him out early like he did in his fight with THE HULK.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If this were Savage Hulk, that would be a big plus for Hulk. Savage Hulk's insanely durable, and he has limitless potential for strength.Even still, Superman can avoid most of Hulk's punches. Hulk is fast for a big guy, and he could land a few shots, but he's got nothing on Supes. Savage Hulk wouldn't have to worry about getting messed up too bad. His body is virtually indestructable, and he has an insane regeneration factor. He could take anything Superman can dish out, and keep coming. But, Superman still has the advantages of speed and flight.
Don't get me wrong. If Superman didn't have super-speed and flight, Hulk would win. But, Superman is Superman. Current Hulk would get his ass waxed by Supes. Any Hulk would be hard pressed to beat Supes.
