Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Superman is stronger than hulk, but hulk has the potential to be stronger."

Hit the nail right on the head there. Which is why I consistently and vehemently back Hulk's strength. Because he could ALWAYS get stronger. Emotions are like numbers, infinate. So none of that he can get SO mad. I could just say, but he could get a bit madder. Which he could. The point is, against Superman, who would give him a heck of a fight and has done. Never have I denied it, he'd EASILY reach new heights of anger and strength quickly purely on the basis of:

A) Knowing who he is up against. Coz Hulk in the comics is no longer the complete dumb brute he was. Yet is stronger than ever, I believe.

B) Due to the beatings both would sustain and give, he would get stronger bu default. To endure it.

"if one is able to even make superman bleed then that being is a formidable match for anyone, because superman is invulnerable"

Doomsday's protruding spikes couldn't pierce Surfer, coz Surfer is infact invulnerable. If Superman were invulnerable he wouldn't have been cut.

"Doomsdays also much faster than Hulk."

That story is likely. Hulk is more agile though. So, they both cancel each other out.

"Doomsdays bones can be extended, and he is far more fierce than hulk. Im not taking doomsdays side, but everyone underestimates Doomsday."

Have you read Hulk #52 when he fights Abomination? I don't believe Doomsday is more fierce than Hulk. Wild yes. Wild and fierce are different though. I know Doomsday is a worthy adversary but he isn't as good as people thought/think. He didn't survive Superman. Superman didn't survive the battle but he survived Doomsday long enough to see the battle out.

-AC

Wolverine's claws haven't appeared to have any major effect in battles that Hulk cannot recover from. We're talking about the man who held his own entrails together while he healed over his own hand, ripped his hand out then healed again.

Gamma radiation, to my knowledge affects Hulk. Can be manipulated to be for negative or positive purpose though I guess.

-AC

"OMG what the hell are u talking about Hulk could never beat superman superman is way too fast for hulk to even hit him and hulks strength starts off at 100 tons supermans 40000 tons its not like hulk is instantly going to be like man im pissed and be stronger than superman no it will take a long time 100 to 40000 is a huge jump and superman would just knock him out before he has a chance to get that pissed like he has done before the hulk can be knock out i mean he was beatin by abomination before"

I swear you have made the same post about 50 times. All based on Encyclopedias and speed. Abomination has had two recorded fights with The Hulk. Lost them both.

-AC

Well what else am i suppose to compare them on if i state that he has beatin him to times in the comics u just say this its fan voted or some bs and if someone is faster stronger and more durable then u u would think that they can win hulk can be beatin.

How about this Superman goes gets a nuke and drops it on hulk seeing as how hulk cant survive a direct hit and superman can i think supes would have it. or is that just more stats for u

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Wolverine's claws haven't appeared to have any major effect in battles that Hulk cannot recover from. We're talking about the man who held his own entrails together while he healed over his own hand, ripped his hand out then healed again.

Gamma radiation, to my knowledge affects Hulk. Can be manipulated to be for negative or positive purpose though I guess.

-AC

Alright, well if Wolverine could put his claws into Hulk, then Hulk couldn't be that tough to cut. If wolverine can cut him then Superman or Doomsday could rip him to shreds. Dunno if he'd be able to heal or not.

If Gamma radiation has a negative effect on him, then a trip into space would be bad news. Lots of nasty radiation in space.

Coz......it was voted for by fans?

AC, you deserve a prize.

"Well what else am i suppose to compare them on if i state that he has beatin him to times in the comics u just say this its fan voted or some bs "

Well the Superman win that you cling to was fan voted. I'm not saying it for fun. That's the only comic you know.

"How about this Superman goes gets a nuke and drops it on hulk seeing as how hulk cant survive a direct hit and superman can i think supes would have it. or is that just more stats for u"

Nope. Superman can survive a nuke. If you read the Hulk Vs Thor from a long while back, the army drop a nuke on Hulk and he shrugs it off pretty much. That's a fact.

Apu from The Simpsons has a catchphrase you should take heed of now.

"AC, you deserve a prize"

Indeed I do. I do.

-AC

Originally posted by SUPERMANDAMAN
OMG what the hell are u talking about Hulk could never beat superman superman is way too fast for hulk to even hit him and hulks strength starts off at 100 tons supermans 40000 tons its not like hulk is instantly going to be like man im pissed and be stronger than superman no it will take a long time 100 to 40000 is a huge jump and superman would just knock him out before he has a chance to get that pissed like he has done before the hulk can be knock out i mean he was beatin by abomination before and superman is way stronger and faster than abomination.

it's a big jump but so isnt it a big jump from banner to hulk?? let's say bruce can press 500 lb. changeing to hulk is a jump to 100tons?? thats an increase of 400times!!!!

if the hulk can just duplicate that exponintal feat he'd be at 40000 tons squarely with supes.

the hulk is willing to make the jump because the hulk doesnt go down without a fight.

http://www.buyersmls.com/comics/hulksuperman/supermantvstuff/hulk7.jpg

go there

http://www.buyersmls.com/comics/hulksuperman/supermantvstuff/hulk6b.jpg

That's some shitty writing. Doomsday put Superman on his ass, so can Hulk.

Not only did you pick two pics in which Superman was only defending, not damaging. You conveniently neglected all the Hulk parts. Lest we forget which comic that is actually in. Do you know which comic it is in Supermandaman? Or are you just sitting there with Google looking for stuff?

The point is, you clearly have no knowledge of comics or characters save for what you read on the net. Some of those stats are decades old.

-AC

doomsday is stronger than the hulk dc characters are stronger than marvel.

Superman/Spiderman #2 and atleast im putting proof that superman can beat hulk wheres ur proof

Does Doomsday have limitless strength? No? Then he isn't stonger than Hulk.

What if Doomsday killed him before he got angry enough to kill Doomsday?

to SUPERMANDAMAN-the crossover was in fact fan-voted. im not sure how you don't know that seeing as how it's nothing new and widespread info.

To Alpha-superman is invulnerable, thats one of his powers(just another ex. of how cheap he is) The reason doomsday was able to pierce his skin is because his bones are that strong. you are correct on the gamma issue, as exposure to it can be helpful(maestro)or harmfull(supes vs. hulk)

To Jargon343-Hulk skin is extremely hard to penetrate. it took Wolvies speed plus strength(lifts about 800lbs.)to cut hulk using razor sharp adamantium. saying that, it would be near physically impossible to rip hulk to shreds. hulk is mande of very hard solidified bone mass and condensed muscle tissue coverd by probally about an 3inches of very durable skin.

to vu Quang-the jump from banners strength to hulks cannot be counted, as the bannerisnt comprised of muscle mass that would allow banner more than id say a max lift of 250. hulk would not make a jump from 100tons to 40000 that quick. it would take much more motivation than simply being "willing to make the jump"

To Jargon343-Hulk skin is extremely hard to penetrate. it took Wolvies speed plus strength(lifts about 800lbs.)to cut hulk using razor sharp adamantium. saying that, it would be near physically impossible to rip hulk to shreds. hulk is mande of very hard solidified bone mass and condensed muscle tissue coverd by probally about an 3inches of very durable skin.

I mentioned this in another thread. You see, it doesn't matter if Wolvies claws are made out of steel or diamond or adamantium, it makes no difference if you don't have the strength to push the blade through what you want to cut. That's why your average person can't push a steel knife through a tree but a tornedo can push a tree through a steel door. If Wolverines 800lbs. of pressure could push his claws through Hulk, then Doomsday (with immeasurable tonnage of pressure) could easily push his protrusions through Hulk, even if they were just normal human bone. Since Doomsday can move extremely quickly (fast enough to match Supes), he could shred Hulk.

But maybe I'm getting to realistic here. In the comic book world, this basic property of matter is often overlooked, with the sharpness and hardness of a material being the only thing that determines whether it can cut something.

Originally posted by moshtitan

to vu Quang-the jump from banners strength to hulks cannot be counted, as the bannerisnt comprised of muscle mass that would allow banner more than id say a max lift of 250. hulk would not make a jump from 100tons to 40000 that quick. it would take much more motivation than simply being "willing to make the jump"

ok i wont argue on the jump part but i would say banner can most definalty press 500 if you consider leg pressing.