Drug addicts: weak?

Started by Victor Von Doom4 pages

Drug addicts: weak?

Is this a fair statement?

Hmm.

I don't think people with addictive personalities toward drugs are inherently weak, just more susceptible to being physically weakened by an addiction that becomes a severe dependancy. Even then I wouldn't call them weak in terms of pathetic. The strongest willed people sometimes can't break addictions.

I think it's more a view of people who just don't understand an addict's mind. More or less perfectly depicted in the lyrics to Junkhead by Alice in Chains.

-AC

An addict gets weak cause of dependancy on the drug. The life of an addict is commanded by the drug, wether he sleeps, eats, etc. which may be considered weak up to a certain extent cause then you've gotta see how strong the drug is.

If the drug, and i mean any drug, is so strong that it hooks you on the first dose, then you cannot really blame the person for being weak minded cause he is addicted from the start.

Ever heard of that saying 'First time free ; next time you pay' ?

That comes from the fact that pushers give you a first dose that is purer than any subsequent dose. The first dose is free and has a great influence on the human body and they then make money by selling you a cheapier cut of the drug that is mixed with all sorts of rubbish.

Are drug addicts weak? Yes, their addiction is their weakness. Are they weak before the addiction and is the addiction in result of them being weak? I don't think so, different people have different reactions to drugs and that's all there is to it. Doesn't make one person who shot up once and walked away stronger than a person who kept going back for more.. the person who walked away's desire to shoot up again was probably less powerful than the person who became addicted.

It's like seeing someone get hit by a 3 foot wave and not fall down but then someone else gets hit by a 10 foot wave and falls down. It's not really fair to say the person who fell down was weaker.

You can't REALLY say they're weak as a result of the addiction being their weakness, because they're not drug addicts by default. They become addicted, and sometimes that happens whether you're weak or not.

Having a weakness doesn't make you a weak person, we all have them.

I'm predicting a lot of people calling them weak for trying them, which is of course, wrong for the most part.

-AC

The only way it could be by default, is by a drug-dependant mother giving birth. In that case the child would be weak from birth.

They may not be addicts by default (we don't really know this) but once they are drug addicts they are weaker than they were before. Who's "weak" and who's "strong" is sorta vague so I guess I should say that drug addicts are weakER, though I guess this would be a given.

Note: I mean weaker than they were before the addiction, not weaker than other people in general.

Personally, I dont think its a fair statement.

You are weak only ONCE you give in to temptation. and with strong drugs, temptation comes only once cause you get hooked immediatly.

If you are addicted then its not your fault that you keep going cause the human body craves for the drugs.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
They may not be addicts by default (we don't really know this) but once they are drug addicts they are weaker than they were before. Who's "weak" and who's "strong" is sorta vague so I guess I should say that drug addicts are weakER, though I guess this would be a given.

Note: I mean weaker than they were before the addiction, not weaker than other people in general.

Well a 14 year old kid with no drug experience isn't a drug addict. So we're not addicts by default.

I know plenty of people who use drugs regularly and are exactly the same. No weaker, no stronger.

-AC

Yes, wether do to weakness before, or after. Being a drug addict makes you inheritly weak, weak-willed. Dependant. You are weak towards the drug, and are weak as a person. Sometimes people become addicted to drugs by accident, caused by an over the counter drug that turned horribly wrong. Drgus take advantage of any dependancy one might have. Drugs are truly one of of man's most vile, degrading tools.

And it's not so much that a person that gets addicted that pisses off SpellJammer. But a person that refuses to acknowledge it. And atleast try to stop. SpellJammer is not thier parent, if they want to destroy thier lives they have every right too, but most drug addicts tend to destroy the lives around them as a backlash to thier addiction. And this is where SpellJammer has to step in..

Are they addicted to the drugs? If so, I'd say they are weaker. They have a dependency that they didn't previously have.

As for the addict by default thing.. I'm not saying we are but I know a lot of people who believe that it's something that you're born with.. being prone to be addicted to certain substances. My dad used to take me to AA/ex drug-user support group meetings when he was quitting, so I guess it's just their philosophies rubbing off on me. They believe that once someone's an addict they're always an addict and after that point it's just a matter of whether or not they choose to feed their addiction... and before they even touch the substance it's pre-determined whether or not they will become addicted or not, it's just the only way to find out is for them to try the substance. Sounds a little crazy.. but they explain it better than I can.

People that recover from drug addicition (i.e. rehab patients) are not consider weak. But are regarded a strong individuals that are capable of overcoming the addiction. So what should we say about those that continue to be addicts? Weak? Maybe not...Hopeless? No...but can you really help a junkie over come his/her addiction? you can try but no one can guarantee results. Is up to the individual to overcome the habit. And since we all have our weaknesses and stregths...it all depends on the individual.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Yes, wether do to weakness before, or after. Being a drug addict makes you inheritly weak, weak-willed. Dependant. You are weak towards the drug, and are weak as a person. Sometimes people become addicted to drugs by accident, caused by an over the counter drug that turned horribly wrong. Drgus take advantage of any dependancy one might have. Drugs are truly one of of man's most vile, degrading tools.

And it's not so much that a person that gets addicted that pisses off SpellJammer. But a person that refuses to acknowledge it. And atleast try to stop. SpellJammer is not thier parent, if they want to destroy thier lives they have every right too, but most drug addicts tend to destroy the lives around them as a backlash to thier addiction. And this is where SpellJammer has to step in..

Why do you have to step into someone else business that has absolutely no concern of yours? (You don't)

-AC

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Yes, wether do to weakness before, or after. Being a drug addict makes you inheritly weak, weak-willed. Dependant. You are weak towards the drug, and are weak as a person. Sometimes people become addicted to drugs by accident, caused by an over the counter drug that turned horribly wrong. Drgus take advantage of any dependancy one might have. Drugs are truly one of of man's most vile, degrading tools.

And it's not so much that a person that gets addicted that pisses off SpellJammer. But a person that refuses to acknowledge it. And atleast try to stop. SpellJammer is not thier parent, if they want to destroy thier lives they have every right too, but most drug addicts tend to destroy the lives around them as a backlash to thier addiction. And this is where SpellJammer has to step in..

What on earth are you talking about ?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why do you have to step into someone else business that has absolutely no concern of yours? (You don't)

-AC


Because when it effects innocent people, especialy that of children anyone with a soul will step in as a subconiounce reaction.

Oh wait, SpellJammer forgot who he was talking too..

From what I have read/studied....drug addicts along with alcoholics are not weaker people, but only people who feel more deeply than others (though not all of them)...and have a harder time coping with what the world holds in truths around them...Can't understand it as well,,,more sensitive to it, and not sure how to make a difference in it......Thus the numbing themselves.

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Because when it effects innocent people, especialy that of [b]children anyone with a soul will step in as a subconiounce reaction.

Oh wait, SpellJammer forgot who he was talking too.. [/B]

Oh look, a child worshipper.

Either way, it's none of your business or your place, to step in.

-AC

Originally posted by debbiejo
From what I have read/studied....drug addicts along with alcoholics are not weaker people, but only people who [B]feel more deeply than others (though not all of them).[/B]

What have you read, out of interest?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What have you read, out of interest?

Studied Psychology for a few years...In it much of the literature/studies I've read about destructive/or differences/protectiveness/opting out in personalities and such....how people miss label them. 📖

Originally posted by debbiejo
Studied Psychology for a few years...In it much of the literature/studies I've read about destructive/or differences in personalities and such....how people miss label them. 📖

What about 'Rat Park'?