Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Damn you're stupid.Dooku is stronger than Sidious. Ventress is better than Maul. GG could take Vader, or at least stop him for long enough for Ventress to finish Maul and go help him. If Sidious isn't already dead at this point, Ventress and GG go kill him.
Hey dipshit, Sidious beat Yoda, Yoda was beating Tyranus. That means Sidious could beat Tyranus. There's no way in hell Ventress could beat Maul. What makes you think she could? She had to try hard to beat J'ai Maruk. And Vader was nearly even with Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan took out Grievous so Vader could too.
Dooku has demonstrated to be better than them.
Maul isn't as good as Ventress. She was able to go head to head with ROTS Obi-wan, who would waste Maul.
Dooku defeated Mace, but Mace defeated Sidious. Don't give me any crap about Sidious faking, take that crap somewhere else.
ROTS Obi-Wan would pwn Maul, and AOTC Obi-Wan could beat him.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Hey dipshit, Sidious beat Yoda, Yoda was beating Tyranus. That means Sidious could beat Tyranus. There's no way in hell Ventress could beat Maul. What makes you think she could? She had to try hard to beat J'ai Maruk. And Vader was nearly even with Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan took out Grievous so Vader could too.
Guess what. Sidious beat Yoda because of a terrain advantage and luck. Yoda is more powerful than Sidious or Dooku. And guess what else, even if you were right, which you aren't, A>B, B>C. That doesn't mean A>C in these types of fights.
Second, you're dumber than I thought. Two reasons Anakin couldn't defeat GG. First, Dooku named everyone who could defeat GG and Anakin wasn't one of them, Obi-wan was. Also, Obi-wan's form gave him a major advantage against GG. Mace says that Obi-wan is the most qualified in the galaxy to kill GG because of his mastery of Soresu, not overall strength.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Yeah, like how Obi-Wan was able to block Dooku's lightning with his saber easily while holding his saber with one hand and Mace was barely able to hold back Sidious's lightning with his saber while using 2 hands.
The more I read, the dumber you get. It is OBVIOUS to every intelligent person(you must be the unintelligent person who missed it) that Dooku put no effort into that attack. He was toying with Obi-wan the entire time. Sidious was pouring everything he had into attacking Mace. Did Dooku's face melt? No, it didn't.
To add to the obviousness that Dooku did not try against Obi-wan in AOTC we saw Dooku pwn Obi-wan with force powers in ROTS.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Got news for you. Ventress never fought ROTS Obi-Wan cause she was dead by then.
I got knews for you that is actually true. Ventress died. But it wasn't from a lightsaber fight. She was extremely wounded and should have died when put onto that shuttle. Turns out that she survived and went to Xagobagh instead where she lived out the rest of her life. In anycase, Obi-wan was near his power when he lost to her. His power didn't suddenly jump in ROTS.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Well, apart from the fact that Sidious did fake it Dooku took out a much younger version of Mace.
Sidious didn't fake it you retard. You are the apex of stupidity. Now you simply deny what is obviously true to an intelligent person. You don't see it because you don't fit the class of an intelligent person. Dooku took out a younger version of Mace, but Dooku got stronger between that fight and ROTS too. You can't prove that he didn't.
Originally posted by darthsith19
AOTC's Obi-Wan'd get pwned. Qui-Gon fought much better than AOTC Obi-Wan and Maul beat him. And ROTS would have a good battle on his hands.
AOTC Obi-wan would lose, but he would give Maul a hard time. Thing is, Asajj would pwn Obi-wan more badly. ROTS Obi-wan would pwn Maul. Easily. Asajj could take Maul, as she has shown by her victories against other, more powerful opponenets.
Guess what.
Sidious beat Yoda because of a terrain advantage and luck.
Yoda is more powerful than Sidious or Dooku.
And guess what else, even if you were right, which you aren't, A>B, B>C. That doesn't mean A>C in these types of fights.
Second, you're dumber than I thought.
Two reasons Anakin couldn't defeat GG. First, Dooku named everyone who could defeat GG and Anakin wasn't one of them, Obi-wan was.
Also, Obi-wan's form gave him a major advantage against GG. Mace says that Obi-wan is the most qualified in the galaxy to kill GG because of his mastery of Soresu, not overall strength.
The more I read, the dumber you get. It is OBVIOUS to every intelligent person(you must be the unintelligent person who missed it) that Dooku put no effort into that attack. He was toying with Obi-wan the entire time.
Did Dooku's face melt? No, it didn't.
In anycase, Obi-wan was near his power when he lost to her. His power didn't suddenly jump in ROTS.
Sidious didn't fake it you retard. You are the apex of stupidity. Now you simply deny what is obviously true to an intelligent person. You don't see it because you don't fit the class of an intelligent person. Dooku took out a younger version of Mace, but Dooku got stronger between that fight and ROTS too. You can't prove that he didn't.
AOTC Obi-wan would lose, but he would give Maul a hard time. Thing is, Asajj would pwn Obi-wan more badly.
ROTS Obi-wan would pwn Maul. Easily.
Asajj could take Maul, as she has shown by her victories against other, more powerful opponenets.
Sids could beat Dooku. If you want to use A>B>C So A>C logic(which I hate) and you will refuse to belive that Sids faked the Windu fight, then we will compare Sids to Windu once again. The only reason he lost was because he entered saber combat immediately with him to quickly eliminate 3 other Jedi masters, if it was one on one and he fought Windu like he fought Yoda, I belive Sids would win.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Guess what. Sidious beat Yoda because of a terrain advantage and luck. Yoda is more powerful than Sidious or Dooku. And guess what else, even if you were right, which you aren't, A>B, B>C. That doesn't mean A>C in these types of fights.
Agreed on this particular statement.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Second, you're dumber than I thought. Two reasons Anakin couldn't defeat GG. First, Dooku named everyone who could defeat GG and Anakin wasn't one of them, Obi-wan was. Also, Obi-wan's form gave him a major advantage against GG. Mace says that Obi-wan is the most qualified in the galaxy to kill GG because of his mastery of Soresu, not overall strength.
'First off', Dooku was insecure about Anakin's growing power. I assume you haven't read LOE. Read it. Just as he is internally terrified of Yoda, and insecure of his power in comparison to that of the old Master, he has doubts about himself when compared to Anakin. He refuses to admit that the boy may someday become more powerful than he. And we know what happens when that occurs. Anakin would defeat Grievous. Perhaps not with the ease of Kenobi, but it would happen.
Secondly, ROTS novelization. How many times are we going to have to argue this? Do you really think that Mace Windu or Yoda would have a harder time against Grievous than Obi-Wan? Um, no.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
The more I read, the dumber you get. It is OBVIOUS to every intelligent person(you must be the unintelligent person who missed it) that Dooku put no effort into that attack. He was toying with Obi-wan the entire time. Sidious was pouring everything he had into attacking Mace. Did Dooku's face melt? No, it didn't.
Into the lightning It was enough to stun Anakin, then leave him vulnerable to a Force throw. I highly doubt that it was by any means his most powerful lightning, but it would have had its effect.
And no, he wasn't toying with Obi-Wan in AOTC. Where is this coming from? Watch the fight again, and you will see that it was indeed a full-fledged duel. There were a couple of taunting phrases spoken by the Count, and now he was faking the duel?
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
To add to the obviousness that Dooku did not try against Obi-wan in AOTC we saw Dooku pwn Obi-wan with force powers in ROTS.
Because he had an oppurtunity to, yes. But this does nothing for the AOTC case.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I got knews for you that is actually true. Ventress died. But it wasn't from a lightsaber fight. She was extremely wounded and should have died when put onto that shuttle. Turns out that she survived and went to Xagobagh instead where she lived out the rest of her life. In anycase, Obi-wan was near his power when he lost to her. His power didn't suddenly jump in ROTS.
She was defeated several months before ROTS at the least, so there was room for improvement. Not to say that he would crush her now, but he would likely win. As would Anakin, who's power seems to grow in leaps and bounds.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Sidious didn't fake it you retard. You are the apex of stupidity. Now you simply deny what is obviously true to an intelligent person. You don't see it because you don't fit the class of an intelligent person.
Throughout this post, all I've seen are insults. Honestly. No mature debater needs to stoop to that level, to throwing out insults in every other sentence.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Dooku took out a younger version of Mace, but Dooku got stronger between that fight and ROTS too. You can't prove that he didn't.[/B]
And are you saying Mace didn't as well? That the most legendary fighter of the modern Jedi Order didn't grow in strength over a decade or two?
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
AOTC Obi-wan would lose, but he would give Maul a hard time. Thing is, Asajj would pwn Obi-wan more badly. ROTS Obi-wan would pwn Maul. Easily. Asajj could take Maul, as she has shown by her victories against other, more powerful opponenets.
Yep. Obi-Wan as of AOTC would give Maul of a difficult fight, to say the least. And against Kenobi as of ROTS, well, he would fall. Not without a fight, I don't think. But he would lose nonetheless. I wouldn't be completely sure that Asajj would dominate Maul like you say. She could likely beat him, but you make it sound ridiculously easy.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Hey dipshit, Sidious beat Yoda, Yoda was beating Tyranus. That means Sidious could beat Tyranus. There's no way in hell Ventress could beat Maul. What makes you think she could? She had to try hard to beat J'ai Maruk. And Vader was nearly even with Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan took out Grievous so Vader could too.Yeah, like how Obi-Wan was able to block Dooku's lightning with his saber easily while holding his saber with one hand and Mace was barely able to hold back Sidious's lightning with his saber while using 2 hands.
Got news for you. Ventress never fought ROTS Obi-Wan cause she was dead by then.
Well, apart from the fact that Sidious did fake it Dooku took out a much younger version of Mace.
AOTC's Obi-Wan'd get pwned. Qui-Gon fought much better than AOTC Obi-Wan and Maul beat him. And ROTS would have a good battle on his hands.
you've no right to call glentract dipshit. Anyway, if you say Yoda loses to sidious and yoda beats tyranus, then you're wrong. Why? because Qui-Gon lost to Maul and Maul lost to Obi-Wan, and Obi would lose to qui-gon anyday. And Ventress would indeed defeat Maul. Also, Glentract was right about the part where Sidious won because of their environment. Sometimes in these battles, they're just pure luck.
Originally posted by DrDoom101
you've no right to call glentract dipshit. Anyway, if you say Yoda loses to sidious and yoda beats tyranus, then you're wrong. Why? because Qui-Gon lost to Maul and Maul lost to Obi-Wan, and Obi would lose to qui-gon anyday. And Ventress would indeed defeat Maul. Also, Glentract was right about the part where Sidious won because of their environment. Sometimes in these battles, they're just pure luck.
Second off, think you Fannus.
Third, I have alkready given other proof on this very page as to why Sidious would beat Maul.
Fourth, we all know you hate me already, Janus.
Lastly Sidious would pwn Grievous. He probably woulnd't even need a saber.
My backpack. I had twenty bucks in it, two books(I have another copy of one of the books), a CD Player, a few CD's, some homework(they can have that), and Command and Conquer Generals ZH(I was taking it to a friends house. I don't normally carry video games with me, that would be a little strange).
It's now worth a lot though. I can get a new bag for 5 bucks, I mainly use my MP3 instead of my CD Player, I have those disk saved on my PC, and I can get a new copy of Generals for 15 bucks. I lost maybe 50 bucks then(a lot, especially since I only have seven bucks right now). Thins is, I'd prefer to lose 50 bucks then have to pay a thousand on their medical bills from a fight.