ROTS Sidious, ROTS Vader, Darth Maul vs. Dooku, Ventress, Greivous

Well it only talks about an intense lightsaber fight, that is all it said it didn't even have Dooku's line about ammnesty. Heres the site if you don't believe me.

http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-Revenge-of-the-Sith.html

Sidious beat Yoda.

Mace beat Sidious.

Dooku threw the fight against Anakin.

These are fact.

The last two are not fact unless you have talked to Lucas yourself.

mace beats sidious. that's a fact. Dooku beat Anakin, not a fact

That script is different. Specifically... it's shorter than what I have seen.

It said that it was written by George Lucas. But from everything I have seen it looks as if Sidious and Mace are pretty close in saber skill. As for Anakin vs. Dooku the only place that actually states Dooku threw the fight is the ROTS novel which is pretty much fan fiction. And after just reading Dooku's databank file on starwars.com it states that he got overconfident and was outmanuvered, never saying anything about throwing the fight.

I've seen the line. I'm sure of it. I'm at work, so I don't have access to it. I'll get back to you on this one.

I'll be waiting.

Phew. Don't hold your breath. I don't get home for another three hours.

Seriously though... take a look at the poor soul...

I've seen poorer souls.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Firstly, thanks DD for standing up for me. Second, DS19, sorry dude. I was pissed off yeasterday as someone stole my bag full of stuff. Peace.

Sorgo, I don't feel like dealing with your bs for like the hundredth time because no matter what I say, even if it's something Janus would say is reasonable, you wouldn't listen to me.

Jnaus, yes, the stwars.com adtabank does make it seem that Mace won fair and square, but also it contridicts what Star Wars Insider as well as Ian McDirmand himself say about why Palpatine's face became deformed. I heard shortly after ROTS came out that Lucas himself wasn't even sure what to say. I've heard he will reveal the answer in the ROTS DVD. When asked if Palpatine threw the duel, he said something like this: "I'm not sure anymore. If you'd asked me when I originally filmed the scene I'd be sure on the answer as Anakin was with palpatine when Mace came and watched the whole thing. But now I;m not sure."

I heard that too, but he changed his original plans to accomodate SLJ, too, if you recall. Originally Sidious was supposed to pwn the hell out of Mace, but SLJ (Who took a low salary just so he could be afforded) requested that MAce go out like a punk.

And definately, SW.com is a shaky source. I wish it weren't, but the site isn't properly maintained and updated... and it's pretty skimpy with what it does have in those profiles.

Oh yeah, I remember. Sidious completely and utterly pwned both Mace and Yoda in the older scripts.

Yeah, and originally Dooku was supposed to be weaker than Anakin. Hell, in AOTC he was supposed to be some changling type who was more commander than a real swordsman.

Well, considering they have someone like Lee, they'd hardly make him a sucky duelist in the final version. He's got that gentlemanly class and elegance possessed long ago by fencers. In short; he pwns too much to suck.

Agreed.

I'm a new member here... But since when does Count Dooku beat Palpatine? Wasn't Dooku his apprentice?

Since there is no real convincing evidence that Sidious was better either in Force feats nor in lightsaber combat, though really your mileage may vary.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
Since there is no real convincing evidence that Sidious was better either in Force feats nor in lightsaber combat, though really your mileage may vary.

Wow. I think I've entered the twilight zone. 😕

I've looked around this thread. And I'm an avid reader of the Star Wars books. And Sidious was feared by Dooku, according to the book called Dark Rendezvous. And I don't mean a little fear. He was terrified of him. So terrified that he didn't even dare go back to the arms of someone who I think is at least Sidious's equal. And that's Yoda.