Originally posted by GalacticStormWanda sucks ass. I don't give a crap about Wanda. I don't give a crap about any comic disagreement. However your "everybody else's opinions don't matter and my opinion is irrefutable truth" attitude is definitely growing irritating.
X theres no need to get worked up over a comic book disagreement. Dont start getting uppity with me over a siily matter like this. Thats distinctly juvenile. I'll let that slide for the time being but carry on and i will put you down if need be.I havent suddenly backpeddled what on earth are you going on about. You only need to go back a few pages to see me state the very same thing.
Time and time again i have referred you to the phoenix thread on the Xmen forum so that you can see these ideas in detail with the appropriate comic book support quoted or shown.
I'll state once again. Who we are, our very essence predates our birth into creation. That is an idea in Kaballah. Life helps us remember our true selves and through death we can be reconciled with our archetypal forms in the white hot room. The appearance of the golden woman on the space shuttle to Jean Grey (who stated they were connected to each other) was based on those ideas. This same golden woman was revealed in Excalibur 64 to be phoenixes true form. In New X-men 151 Jean was reborn from the phoenix egg in the form of the golden woman. Endsong went on to confirm they were indeed one and the same. Whether you like it or not that is an actual idea believed by many across the world and that is the one that has been incorporated into this phoenix interpretation.
Jean Grey is Phoenix. Phoenix is the archetypal form of Jean Grey. The part of herself she is reconciled with via death. However Jean Greys Phoenix form exists regardless and at anytime she chose could manifest in creation as Jean Grey. Cos whatever Wanda chose to do in 616 she has no power over the white hot room.
I dont get what youre trying to do here. Because ive downgraded Wanda you seem desperate to try and get one over me on this phoenix thing. LOL.
This really doesnt mean that much to me. You started getting worked up after it became quite evident that Wanda wasnt all she was cracked up to be. 😉
"let that slide" "put you down if need be"
Do you even realise how pretentious you are?
In comics a character is defined by the events that transpire, the decisions they make and the people they encounter. According to you these things are just a "shell." The "shell" is the character - if the "shell" is inessential then the character is inessential. Without the "shell" there is only the essence of nameless thing. By your own extrapolation into the "religion" of Kaballah, you undo Jean = Phoenix.
Again I receive as illadelph put it "empty retorts" rather than the straightforward response I asked for because you won't provide one, can't provide one, or won't because you can't provide one. You could have simply stated that, but doing so would have probably gotten in the way of the whole superiority complex thing.
You sit yourself on a pedestal so high that if you tried to get down you'd probably shatter all your bones, and you're somehow completely oblivious to it. One can only assume from the tone of your posts that you actually think you're better than other people on these forums. Do not presume to be able to talk down to myself, or anyone else for that matter, because you're not.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wanda sucks ass. I don't give a crap about Wanda. I don't give a crap about any comic disagreement. However your "everybody else's opinions don't matter and my opinion is irrefutable truth" attitude is definitely growing irritating."let that slide" "put you down if need be"
Do you even realise how pretentious you are?In comics a character is defined by the events that transpire, the decisions they make and the people they encounter. According to you these things are just a "shell." The "shell" [b]is
the character - if the "shell" is inessential then the character is inessential. Without the "shell" there is only the essence of nameless thing. By your own extrapolation into the "religion" of Kaballah, you undo Jean = Phoenix.Again I receive as illadelph put it "empty retorts" rather than the straightforward response I asked for because you won't provide one, can't provide one, or won't because you can't provide one. You could have simply stated that, but doing so would have probably gotten in the way of the whole superiority complex thing.
You sit yourself on a pedestal so high that if you tried to get down you'd probably shatter all your bones, and you're somehow completely oblivious to it. One can only assume from the tone of your posts that you actually think you're better than other people on these forums. Do not presume to be able to talk down to myself, or anyone else for that matter, because you're not. [/B]
I have done threads on this attitude of GS's 🙂
Originally posted by Princess DianaI'm sorry I didn't think that anyone would take a ytmnd site seriously. . . I just thought it was funny.
Chaos cloud not wave.and its very bad Astronomy 🙂
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/news/killercloud.html
as usually Cresh and GS speek half truths 🙂
Yahoo reported on this, but the original source was the Weekly World News, the best tabloid I've seen. Because they don't report on who's doing what for how many jellybeans. They make up this fantastic stories and then photoshop photographs for them.
YTMND is a great site for humourous things. If anyone had any idea of what YTMND was they never would take that link seriously. Most of the YTMND sites aren't very good, but they've got some funny things, mostly its just a soundclip with a picture and maybe a text blurb.
They tend to have groupings of similar concepts called "fadsd" and Professor X being pushed down the stairs is one of them:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-39,GGLG:en&q=ytmnd+professor+X
Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm sorry I didn't think that anyone would take a ytmnd site seriously. . . I just thought it was funny.Yahoo reported on this, but the original source was the Weekly World News, the best tabloid I've seen. Because they don't report on who's doing what for how many jellybeans. They make up this fantastic stories and then photoshop photographs for them.
YTMND is a great site for humourous things. If anyone had any idea of what YTMND was they never would take that link seriously. Most of the YTMND sites aren't very good, but they've got some funny things, mostly its just a soundclip with a picture and maybe a text blurb.
They tend to have groupings of similar concepts called "fadsd" and Professor X being pushed down the stairs is one of them:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-39,GGLG:en&q=ytmnd+professor+X
I know I pointed all this out 🙂 thing is GS belived you read his post and I am not sure till I pointed out it was false you knew, but I will give you the benefit 🙂
Bad Science is Funny
Originally posted by Princess DianaI'm really not sure if the title "bad science" fits outright. That would imply at that it was based mostly in reality. When really, its just a made up story much like we are discussing here. Science fiction as it were.
I know I pointed all this out 🙂 thing is GS belived you read his post and I am not sure till I pointed out it was false you knew, but I will give you the benefit 🙂Bad Science is Funny
Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm really not sure if the title "bad science" fits outright. That would imply at that it was based mostly in reality. When really, its just a made up story much like we are discussing here. Science fiction as it were.
most Sci Fi is bad Science 😂 I read it and laughed anyone could believe it - Thats bad Science.
🙂
-Diana
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wanda sucks ass. I don't give a crap about Wanda. I don't give a crap about any comic disagreement. However your "everybody else's opinions don't matter and my opinion is irrefutable truth" attitude is definitely growing irritating."let that slide" "put you down if need be"
Do you even realise how pretentious you are?In comics a character is defined by the events that transpire, the decisions they make and the people they encounter. According to you these things are just a "shell." The "shell" [b]is
the character - if the "shell" is inessential then the character is inessential. Without the "shell" there is only the essence of nameless thing. By your own extrapolation into the "religion" of Kaballah, you undo Jean = Phoenix.Again I receive as illadelph put it "empty retorts" rather than the straightforward response I asked for because you won't provide one, can't provide one, or won't because you can't provide one. You could have simply stated that, but doing so would have probably gotten in the way of the whole superiority complex thing.
You sit yourself on a pedestal so high that if you tried to get down you'd probably shatter all your bones, and you're somehow completely oblivious to it. One can only assume from the tone of your posts that you actually think you're better than other people on these forums. Do not presume to be able to talk down to myself, or anyone else for that matter, because you're not. [/B]
Hold up mr. 😉
This point you've been trying to get out of me for the last few pages has absolutely no bearing on this debate whatsoever. When a) Its established that they are indeed one in the comics and b) this issue has been debated in full in the X-men forum (where i have directed you to several times in this thread). So the question is why are you trying to make a big thing out of it?
For someone who doesnt give a crap about Wanda you've certainly laid down an Oscar winning portrayal of a devoted fan. Not only were you begging me me to find her a place in the hierarchy but i dont believe theres a Wanda thread on these forums that you havent placed your "valuable" stamp on.
When this thread first began you were all sweet as pie. Demi started hyping SW up and being a fan you thought you'd ignore previous comments and hop on the bandwagon. Unfortunately during the course of this thread my contributions and subsequent comic releases gave Wanda a bit of downgrade 🙁
Instead of letting the thread die down as any normal person would do it seems the Wanda fan inside of you decided the only course of action was revenge.
So you thought you'd try and score a point off of Phoenix in some juvenile attempt to walk out of this with something at least. 😮
This isnt about me being arrogant or thinking im better than others this heres about me laughing at the expense of someone who takes these forums waaaay to seriously.
For your own satisfaction as a matter of pride you wish me to answer an off topic question. The fact is i dont wish to indulge and feel no obligation to when it has no bearing on this topic and the reasons behind its posing are distinctly juvenile. On top of that as a matter of goodwill ive actually already answered the question, just not in the way you wanted (the so called "empty retorts" LOL). Hence the tantrums. I can tell you its been a lot of fun watching you degenerate in response to each contribution i make. 🙂
It appears this pre-pubescent behaviour is quickly becoming the norm for you when debates dont go your way:
Originally posted by yahman
Its not like X, to get worked up, about something as minor as a comic book discussion 🙄
😄
Originally posted by Princess Diana
Do you really think that I have a grievance with anyone X, truly I just enjoy watching people react to things - which are obviously meant for them to do that sometimes, and then see where it goes. Please don't waste your time on an argument where I will just sit behind my computer smiling as you get more and more aggressive and then either go to a mod or block me. I thought you understood forums.
Likewise old man. In this respect we're agreed. Funniest post id read in a long time. 😆 😂 🙂 😕