1. Galactus- No explanation really necesary...Balance between Eternity and Death. He can bestow the power Cosmic, instantly putting YOU on this list...that's power.
2. Thanos - Has ascended to be the supreme being in the universe...SEVERAL times.
3. Champion- Underestimated on these boards...Champion has mastered every known fighting style in the universe, is immortal, base level strength and durability right up there with Thanos (Skyfather level). And let's not forget the Power Primordial.
4. SS- Mini Galactus...nuff said.
5. Onslaught- Much more than the sum of his parts...I once thought onslaught was an utterly stupid concept from Marvel, but looking back, they missed out bigtime getting rid of him. Give him the ability to exist in outer space and he's skyfather level.
6. Gladiator- Feared throughout the galaxy for a reason...Supes on steroids...if he's confident (Dumb @$$ trait if you ask me). The only guys in the universe who can beat up on him head up are ahead of him on this list, and SS is debateable.
7. Apocolypse- Thanos potential, just never realized. Genius level intellect, immesureable strentgh, supposedly immortal, shapeshifting, energy manipulation, the list goes on and on. In the end, the biggest underachiever in comics history.
8. Juggernaut- It got really tough right here...Thor is actually much, much more versatile, but Juggy whipped his blond @$$ every time they fought...Somebody else on the forum hit it on the head: Juggernaut did Doomsday 20 years before Doomsday.
9. Thor- Assuming this is not RKT, his only fault here is he's can't whoop anyone's ass on this list. If this IS RKT, he's #2, and everyone else gets bumped down a notch.
10. Hulk_ As much as I love the concept of Hulk, he's got nuttin but physical strength...nuttin else. And that don't cut it on this list.
Great post by the way
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Originally posted by 7yearsjudoka
You forget it took the combined might of Galactus and many other heroes and villains alike to defeat Onslaught. Onslaught is definitely first.
And I think Dr. Doom was the only villain that helped. I'm not sure though.
Galactus
onslaught
War hulk{fully enraged} {HULK beat gladiator and destroyed onslaughts armour}He also beat thanos with armour x man gave him what of with celestial armour and power o two universes?
thanos
ss
champion
Thor{has lost to hulk countless of times}
Juggernaut{same thing}
Apocalypse{lost to many of earths mutants}
LOSER
Any incarnation of Hulk is dead last on this list. War, mindless, or otherwise.
Galactus is self explanatory- he's #1 for a reason.
Thanos took out champion AND a warrior madness thor equipped with the power gem. (though not at the same time.) no version of Hulk is that strong. When he gets bored, Hulk gets teleported into the middle of the sun and annihilated.
Surfer can (and has) taken shots from an enraged hulk without blinking. He operates at speeds hulk can't even comprehend. On top of that, he can easily drain him of all his gamma energy and turn him back to banner with a flick of his wrist. Then into the nearest sun he goes, ending the fight.
Onslaught was a being of pure psionic energy, with professor X and magneto's full potential. Yes, an infinitely angry hulk unleashed by Jean Grey (which is arguably about as strong as hulk will EVER be) broke an ALREADY CRACKED Onslaught's armor, but that only made him stronger- he became a being of pure psionic energy. Good luck punching that. Hulk has no way to deal with something like this.
Apocalypse has already beaten hulk in a physical fight. How do you think he got to be war hulk in the first place? Apoc also isnt stupid enough to make one of his creations more powerful than he is, and has plenty celestial tech integrated into his armor if he really needs to use it. Apoc also can easily fight in space, where hulk can't, and can adapt ANY POWER AT ALL that he needs to kill the hulk. A non Jobbing Apocalypse simply wastes him from orbit, or uses sheer speed to take him down. Intelligently written, Apocalypse annihilates him.
Champion's power primordial gives him limitless strength to use no matter how angry he is. He's had the power gem, but it's little more than decoration for him. He also has millions of years of fighting experience and can go at warp speeds. Hulk is paste against him.
Classic Juggernaut has fought hulk to standstills before, but has one huge advantage. Juggernaut will never, ever, ever get tired, doesn't need to eat, and has an inexhaustible power supply. He doesn't need to stay angry to gain limitless strength. Hulk has potentially unlimited strength, but not unlimited stamina. The fight might take a long time, but Jugs will eventually kill him. Current Huggernaut gets murdered though.
Thor has lost to hulk before, but only because he insists on grappling with him hand to hand and not use mjolnir's full potential. He could one shot the hulk with the godforce if he wanted to, strike him with endless lightning bolts from a comfortable distance, etc etc. His speed should also be too much for Hulk, (he's the strongest AND fastest of the gods) though he's rarely written that way.
I think that about covers it. Everyone else is simply too versatile, or too fast for the hulk to deal with.
Originally posted by Eternity
Hulk still beat gladiator so he is still above him but below thanos and ss
Alright, I made that last part up.
Hulk has defeated thor when he used mjolnir before using mjolnir simply pissed hulk off and made him beat thor even more. Apocalypse was only able to control war because war saw him as a father figure.
He has also lost to mutants much weaker than hulk. Juggernaut has lost to hulk many times. In incredible hulk 172 helost multiple times. Jugs lost to war hulk even with absorbing mans help. Jugs has only beaten prof hulk and this was when hulk was trying to know who he was because he was not wearing his armour and he was then suckerpunched.
When hulk did not show much resistance to whom he was fighting juggernaut continued and finally knocked him out.
Thanos was defeated by hulk with armour given to him by X man. War hulk has celestial armour which is far greater than that of x man. A young maestro has also defeated a warrior mad thor. Hulk has defeated fast people such as gladiator and speed freak so champs speed will not be a problem.
Hulk was beating gladiator before he threw him into the nuclear plant.Gladiator blasted him with laser eye beams and hulk got mad blocked the beams and blew them up in gladiators face He then proceded to throw gladiator into the nuclear plant and beat gladiator further.
Juggernaut and Hulk have only really had one win against each other out of all their fights and they're both kinda tainted. Juggernaut lost to War Hulk because of Celestial tech and Hulk lost to Juggernaut because he thought the guy beating his ass was a normal construction worker. Who makes that mistake? How many 11 foot redheads do you know, Hulk?
Originally posted by Eternity
Hulk has defeated thor when he used mjolnir before using mjolnir simply pissed hulk off and made him beat thor even more. Apocalypse was only able to control war because war saw him as a father figure.
He has also lost to mutants much weaker than hulk. Juggernaut has lost to hulk many times. In incredible hulk 172 helost multiple times. Jugs lost to war hulk even with absorbing mans help. Jugs has only beaten prof hulk and this was when hulk was trying to know who he was because he was not wearing his armour and he was then suckerpunched.
When hulk did not show much resistance to whom he was fighting juggernaut continued and finally knocked him out.
Thanos was defeated by hulk with armour given to him by X man. War hulk has celestial armour which is far greater than that of x man. A young maestro has also defeated a warrior mad thor. Hulk has defeated fast people such as gladiator and speed freak so champs speed will not be a problem.
This is the forums, so CIS and PIS are OFF.
Hulk has beaten Thor only because thor didnt use mjolnir to its full potential. A Godforce Blast has cracked CELESTIAL Armor (so much for the "war hulk has celestial tech!" argument) , and sent Galactus screaming in pain and fleeing for his life. Hulk, War or Otherwise is nowhere NEAR that durable. And how can hulk deal with being endlessly beaten down with magical lightning from a distance? oh wait! he can't! Regular thor is also fast enough and powerful enough to beat the surfer. Twice. Surfer has punked the hulk on numerous occasions without breaking a sweat.
Maybe you werent paying attention when I said Apocalypse beat the hulk in physical combat before, how do you think he GOT TO BE WAR HULK IN THE FIRST PLACE? He didnt see apocalypse as a "father figure." he was being mind controlled like all of apocalypse's horsemen. i.e. Wolverine as death. Apocalypse has the same celestial tech to use as war hulk does, but would NEVER make a horseman stronger than he was. Apocalypse can also adapt ANY power he needs on the fly. War hulk is strong, but can't operate in space. Apocalypse can and has.
As for Jugs vs. Hulk- The hulk will eventually tire. Jugs won't. ever. read the nigh endless Jugs vs. Hulk debate thread, I won't go into that here.
Hulk defeated thanos with *random plot device* given to him by Xman? please. Thanos has dealt with far, far stronger beings than the hulk, and PIS/CIS off will teleport him into the nearest star, frying him instantly.
No version of Hulk is stronger than anyone with the power gem. read up on what the power gem is. Infinite power to whoever wields it. Thanos beat down Champion with the gem (who has an affinity and knows how to use it) and Warrior madness Thor with the gem, THEN went toe to toe with Odin. Odin busted out Gungnir and STILL couldnt KO thanos.
Gladiator Jobs to everyone. his speed and power vary so much as to be almost meaningless on this board. one minute he's going 100x lightspeed, the next he can't outrun a tidal wave without help. Speedfreak is slow as all hell. compared to surfer, thanos, and champion who can EXCEED LIGHT SPEED.
War hulk, which we arent even using here but for the sake of argument, isn't all that. he has the SAME TECH as apocalypse.