Link vs. Sonic

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
and using other fiction is pointless because it's totally irrelevant, you're just straw-manning.

Wrong, because it proves your already ridiculously hilarious hasty generalisation fallacy wrong....lightningin fiction does not have to move at lightning speed by default, its basic logic (no wonder its beyond you!) that fiction can bend the reality of forces to suit its own game.

As Bloodrain said, its time someone shows real evidence that the orbs or w/e Ganon used was fast rather than assumption on something not actually seen 🙂

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Note also, that the god of freakin' thunder shoosts "slow orbs" as BT would liek to claim

Yeh and to note, throwing around titles does not make things more impressive or refute what we actually see in the game. "zomg God of thunderz!" does not automatically turn the canon "slow bolts" into quick lightning. Especially if Zeus has used natural lightning before hence noting the attack being unique.

Didn't answer, would you call it a bolt or would you call it an orb? That I remember Zeus in a cutscene has shown to manipulate fast bolts, also in a cutscene throws an electric orb. In cutscenes the difference is present. Now, Ganon in that scene or any in that game hasn't used those bolts as a weapon. He uses it to charge the attack up.

-What about Link, what's he got against Sonic? Ill ask here too, Sonic X and the comic are counted feats? As they do cover the same-ish story parts.-
Also, this lightning feat came along recently right?

An important note is that as impressive and fast as real lightning is, perhaps these entities use this possibly compacted, stronger form of lightning for its power rather than speed natural lightning brings. Recently playing "Infamous" I can say this is the case with cole whos Megawatt hammer is vastly stronger than his little blasts from his hands (although not so much as lightning from heavens!).

Sonic X should not be counted, Chris Thorndyke's amazing AIDS decrees that.

True, BT, it does make sense as he charges all that electricity into one orb.

Was afraid that Chris was gonna mess it up for everyone..

Originally posted by Burning thought
An important note is that as impressive and fast as real lightning is, perhaps these entities use this possibly compacted, stronger form of lightning for its power rather than speed natural lightning brings. Recently playing "Infamous" I can say this is the case with cole whos Megawatt hammer is vastly stronger than his little blasts from his hands (although not so much as lightning from heavens!).

Lightning only even exists because of Zeus, and do you have any idea how poorly conceived the idea of more power /slowing lightning down/ is? 😐

Ganondorf can shoot full speed lightning, has done many times. If in this fight he did it at full speed in gameplay, the player, who needs to react in order to reflect it, would be totally unable to, and get rapestomped, making the game unbeatable.

Coles relevant, the point hasnt been refuted yet until you give an argument for why Ganons lightning is at the speed of natural lightning despite nothing indicating it being so.

Do you have any idea were talking about a fiction, and how in the Infamous fiction this is the case?

But not this time? thats a damnshame, no feat....thats a ridiculous claim because thats like saying all games with bullets being fired at you such as DMC, MGS, max payne (good example, youll see why) and players not being able to dodge bullets would be rape stomped. This is not the case, because as max payne shows us, and DMC is that changes in gameplay speed (slowing down) can allow this to happen.

Your daft lulzy ideas of this lightning not being at fully speed only because of player benefit is a joke, I am surprised its even a point.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Coles relevant, the point hasnt been refuted yet until you give an argument for why Ganons lightning is at the speed of natural lightning despite nothing indicating it being so.

Do you have any idea were talking about a fiction, and how in the Infamous fiction this is the case?

But not this time? thats a damnshame, no feat....thats a ridiculous claim because thats like saying all games with bullets being fired at you such as DMC, MGS, max payne (good example, youll see why) and players not being able to dodge bullets would be rape stomped. This is not the case, because as max payne shows us, and DMC is that changes in gameplay speed (slowing down) can allow this to happen.

Your daft lulzy ideas of this lightning not being at fully speed [b]only because of player benefit is a joke, I am surprised its even a point. [/B]

And Cole is 100% irrelevant because he's a seperate fiction, not Ganon, and the reason his attacks may be slowed is explained right inside the game.

Ohhh, you mean like how at full gameplay speed bullets in soulreaver are pathetic? Along with a million other things in a million other games, in gameplay, the speed somethign moves is simply not accurate. That is your ONLY argument, and it's worthless considering we have canon instances of Ganon shooting lightning and canon instances of Link being able to reflect it, and Ganon being able to reflect it back.

Adding more power to your lightning? That would only make it faster. 😐

Also, Max payne came out an entire generation after OoT, and two after aLttP.

DMC? Seperate fiction.

Also, if you can claim lightning is slower in Zelda, I can claim bullets are slower in DMC. See how "lulzy" your ideas are?

Yes but as I said, not this time. Not when the feat your trying to overhype counts.

I dont recall developed automatic weapons in SR....most I remember are muskets or some form of old age archiac firearm..

Your only argument is apparently assuming Ganons lightning is automatically at full speed in this case just because hes made normal lightning before, its worthless 🙂, your making a generalisation thats irrelevant to the moment you want to squeeze a feat out of. I just outlined how fast things can be slowed down while maintaing the truth of bullets speed. Max Payne, DMC, all show bullets moving at speeds.

I never claimed real natural lightning is slower in Zelda....I claimed Ganons cute slow moving bolts are slow, because their not shown as anything else unlike bullets in Max payne, DMc etc, whats luzly is you reaching by claiming DMC is a seperate fiction as if that negates the fact bullets can be slowed down. So can lightning....

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

And Cole is 100% irrelevant because he's a seperate fiction, not Ganon, and the reason his attacks may be slowed is explained right inside the game.

Not to mention, Cole never uses 'actual lightning', just electricity that he manipulates. He only uses actual lightning with his most powerful move. He also never demonstrates the level of power that Ganon probably does.

That explains it then, Ganon can manipulate energy/electricity (or another attack that looks alike to them). The level of power? lol, "probably"? this sounds like a not so sure attempt to backup Scream or to combat me. Its not going to work 🙂

Originally posted by Burning thought
That explains it then, Ganon can manipulate energy/electricity (or another attack that looks alike to them). The level of power? lol, "probably"? this sounds like a not so sure attempt to backup Scream or to combat me. Its going to work 🙂

"It's going to work".

Assumptions? unlike the bold assumption that slow orbs are in an unseen reality that you excist in real natural lightning speed? lol...and your right, what Ganon does is never described in such a way, thanks for admitting that. Its not even described as lightning or hinted to no doubt.

Reading comprehension ftw, I said its "not going to work" silly!!!

Originally posted by Burning thought
Assumptions? unlike the bold assumption that slow orbs are in an unseen reality that you excist in real natural lightning speed? lol...and your right, what Ganon does is [b]never described in such a way, thanks for admitting that. Its not even described as lightning or hinted to no doubt.

Reading comprehension ftw, I said its "not going to work" silly!!! [/B]

Oh look, everyone can see that you editted. 😎

So its not even necesserily lightning, so you are not only making up fanon around a scene not explained or made clear but your assuming its lightning based on what? based on the idea Ganon used lightning in another scene? lol....

They can, so?

Originally posted by Burning thought
So its not even necesserily lightning, so you are not only making up fanon around a scene not explained or made clear but your assuming its lightning based on what? based on the idea Ganon used lightning in another scene? lol....

They can, so?

Ganon shoosts lightning all the damn time, your only argument is it's gameplay speed, which is irrelevant.

Tier of stupid? you would know being on a far higher tier than I with your "great truth" truth only you can cough up and see apparently. And yes, we gather hes used lightning before...so? and no its not the same.

All the damn time, apart from when this feat counts...lol..

Hm, Sonic X Sonic's spin-attack moves faster then lightning. No relevance here as its probably not canon but I watched a whole damn episode for it so I'm gonna post it >_>

Originally posted by BloodRain
Hm, Sonic X Sonic's spin-attack moves faster then lightning. No relevance here as its probably not canon but I watched a whole damn episode for it so I'm gonna post it >_>

Had Knuckles pegged as a ka-thousand tonner too :/

2 things. Did I miss the pro lightning speed evidence and what can Link do to win?