Link vs. Sonic

Originally posted by BloodRain
Had Knuckles pegged as a ka-thousand tonner too :/

2 things. Did I miss the pro lightning speed evidence and what can Link do to win?

There's many instances of Ganon shoosting full speed lightning boltz, the only time it takes the form of slower projectiles is in gameplay, and it's still very obviously lightning.

No offence but its hard to take any of that in as proof, main point being the -it gameplay so should be slower for the player- point. Also hes never used it as an attack in cutscenes so can anyone be sure what he's doing...

As no ones going to argue for Link's side, concession in Sonic's favour?

Well, Sonic's cooler, so yeah. peaches

That's hardly a concession. 😐

It's an old thread. No one actually gives a shit who wins.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
It's an old thread. No one actually gives a shit who wins.

Being a guy that wanted a sonic thread then a few days later this popped up, yeah, caught my attention. And am willing to drive it home if able 😐 [until im bored or a better thread comes along that is]

Originally posted by BloodRain
Being a guy that wanted a sonic thread then a few days later this popped up, yeah, caught my attention. And am willing to drive it home if able 😐 [until im bored or a better thread comes along that is]

Sonic's shoes will burn off his chest hair. biscuits

Impossible. Sarge's chest hair can wistand Superman's heat vision and world breaker Hulk's fists!

Sarge is a *****.

I would beat his ass.

Sarge's chest hair would entangle you and penetrate every orifice on your body, before ripping you limb from limb in a rain of manly tears.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Impossible. Sarge's chest hair can wistand Superman's heat vision and world breaker Hulk's fists!

Superman's Heat Vision would burn a forest of his chest hair, and Sarge would turn green with envy at Superman's chest hair. uhuh

Sarge's chest hair is so manly it's self sustaining on it's own manliness! True immortality.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I disagree. The way I see it, Ganon has used lightning bolts to fight Link before. Why would he slow them down to be reflected when we know his intent is to kill?

Because maybe he couldn't fire real lightning at the time? Ganon/dorf wasn't even that powerful in OoT when compared to other Zelda games.

He is fully capable of firing the "cliche" lightning bolts (Agahnim), so I don't know why he would say "Let me use this lighting that isn't really lightning so I can lose."

Those were at later timelines and no Link ever reflected that.

Besides, there are a lot of instances where Link deals with lightning (although not reflection, just dodging). Also enemies that leave after-images.

You mean Barinade, Wizrobe, and Majora's Incarnation.

Barinade lightning shows a flash before it's fired. Wizrobe's after-images are illusions. Majora's Incarnation fools around too much and leaves itself vulnerable a lot.

Because maybe he couldn't fire real lightning at the time? Ganon/dorf wasn't even that powerful in OoT when compared to other Zelda games.

Those were at later timelines and no Link ever reflected that.

You mean Barinade, Wizrobe, and Majora's Incarnation.

Barinade lightning shows a flash before it's fired. Wizrobe's after-images are illusions. Majora's Incarnation fools around too much and leaves itself vulnerable a lot.

Refute the feat, or accept it. You can't refute it. 😐 So accept it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
FAIL. In OoT he had the ToP, which he did NOT have in FSA, and he could still shoost lightning THEN. Why would more power = less abilities? 😐 You have no proof. I do. Gtfo. Also, OoT is not the only intance.
FSA is earlier, and he had lightning then. 🙂

Four Swords Adventures shouldn't be considered canon. Especially since it shows the blue Ganon which is a fusion of Ganondorf and Beast Ganon plus showed more power than Ganondorf did in OoT. The only proof you have is what most others call trolling.

Speculation based on old graphics and artistic license, you have nothing better?

There have been more impressive things with speed in the 16-bit Contra games than there has been in any Zelda game.

Refute the feat, or accept it. You can't refute it. 😐 So accept it.

I already have in more ways than one. You can't even prove that the energy balls are the same as lightning bolts or even move at the same speed.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Four Swords Adventures shouldn't be considered canon. Especially since it shows the blue Ganon which is a fusion of Ganondorf and Beast Ganon plus showed more power than Ganondorf did in OoT. The only proof you have is what most others call trolling.

There have been more impressive things with speed in the 16-bit Contra games than there has been in any Zelda game.

I already have in more ways than one. You can't even prove that the energy balls are the same as lightning bolts or even move at the same speed.

Lighting = Lightning. Also, cant' recall anyone levitating a castle in 16 bit games.

You never have, you have ONLY the gameplay speed, IE, nothing.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia

I already have in more ways than one. You can't even prove that the energy balls are the same as lightning bolts or even move at the same speed.

Ditto

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Lighting = Lightning. Also, cant' recall anyone levitating a castle in 16 bit games.

Lighting= lightning, slow moving Lightning ball= Slow moving Lightning ball etc etc

And youve not even proven it was lightning he was fireing other than "zomg its sparking like lightning so it has to be lightning!", while whining about how gameplay or artistic license does not help a case 😬

hmmm... here's a point that I don't think anyone has brought up yet. Let's say that when Gannondorf fires his lightning balls at Link that they are going at lightning speed. Then why is it that when you take turns knocking it back at each other the speed of the orb clearly speeds up? If it's already moving as fast as lightning then why would it need to speed up in the first place.😬

Originally posted by Burning thought

And youve not even proven it was lightning he was fireing other than "zomg its sparking like lightning so it has to be lightning!", while whining about how gameplay or artistic license does not help a case 😬

No, its electricity.... if you get hit by it, it shocks the f*** out of you. 😐

and as far as the thread goes, Sonic wins 😄

Does anyone know if the Sonic comics are cannon with the games? I used to read them all the time when I was a kid, and there's a couple of things I could use from them if I could remember them. Like one comic for example, Sonic gets a new pair of sneakers from his uncle, Chuck (i think thats his name), and when he puts them on and runs off, he goes so fast that he ends up in a different dimension.

I just figured I would bring it up and ask because in my opinion, the comics were pretty win. There is some proof I can think of that makes me believe they are cannon to each other because in the comics he fights Chaos from SA, and Shadow shows up too, but I don't remember much about what happened, so I cant say if they were true to how it actually happened in the games.

Also, when the first game was released, there was a comic strip that went to it, but I don't know if it was the same first issue of the series that I read. It just gave you a little background story to go with the game. I think I read it in the beginning of the official strategy guide, but idk, its been a really long time ago.