WTF? Shouldn't you be in intense pain for treading on this holy ground?
Seriously, debating implies logical base. If it's not logical, it's not a debate. Go take a Logic and reasoning course... they teach you debate.
Where the hell did you get the idea that there is no real winning in a debate? Third grade?
"Does Supes win?"
"Nuh uh!"
"Yah huh!"
"Nuh uh!"
"Yah huh!"
Seriously... wtf.
No there is no winnign there's only finding the truth.
Except you go by the Standarsds of Debating Clubs, there indeed is a winning cause it is connected with competing. The proble is that as soon as winning is a factor the logic is not the most important part anymore but looking good in front of an audience. This is a different type of debating and I hope it's not the on you want.
My Definition (and it is a normal definition) is that one argues not to win for their side, nor to defeat and huiliate their opponent but to find the truth it is not fighting each other but helping each other....and indeed in this definition logic is the major factor if not the only (although assumptions based on logic are acceptable).
Originally posted by Bardock42
Random nonsensical bullshit
No, actually philosphers (Ones who search for truth) use logic and reasoning and debate to find the truth (Or the next best thing) for millenia... Back during the days of Thales and Aristotle to more contemporary geniuses such as Kant, Ayn Rand, and Leonard Piekoff. If you knew a damn thing about philosophy and logic and reasoning, you'd know this.
Your definition of debate and the truth is a wishy-washy subjective nature and has no place in higher thinking, period.
Originally posted by Deus Ex
No, actually philosphers (Ones who search for truth) use logic and reasoning and debate to find the truth (Or the next best thing) for millenia... Back during the days of Thales and Aristotle to more contemporary geniuses such as Kant, Ayn Rand, and Leonard Piekoff. If you knew a damn thing about philosophy and logic and reasoning, you'd know this.Your definition of debate and the truth is a wishy-washy subjective nature and has no place in higher thinking, period.
You are only argueing as-hominem and this just doesn't have a place in fair debating....
Supposively, Socrates used the Socratic method, although that is debateable really since nothing remains of him directly. His process was mainly to eliminate wrong answers and arrive at right answers through questions.
As for Schopenhauer...
http://www.friesian.com/arthur.htm
Is this how you debate?
And as for ad-hominem? No, I'm attacking your argument legitly. Any sidekicks I get in there are purely for amusement; I am not attacking your person... I'm attacking your ignorance.
Originally posted by Bardock42😆
Since there is no real winning in debate none of them do.
Of course you'd say that since you can't win. 🙄
I like cartoons, they often have pearls of wisdom hidden in them in ways that you don't expect, this one is oddly fitting:
"It's a proven fact!" ~ Numbuh 4
"And where do you get these facts exactly?" ~Numbuh 2
"I make them up, that way I know they're true!" ~Numbuh 4
If you actually know the show . . or seen a specific episode that deepens the humor. . . this is quite hilarious.
Originally posted by Creshosk
😆Of course you'd say that since you can't win. 🙄
But that supports what I a saying....only in competetive and policy debates is "winning" a factor....that's exactly what I said......we are no ton a high school debating team or are we?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Fanboyism is the simple refusal to accept defeat, I need to fetch that essay I did on it.
true.
except for wolverine fanboys.....they're just closet cases too
scared to come out so they project their homo-erotic energies
towards a short, hairy and muscular canadian man......so sad.....
Originally posted by Bardock42Funny how you only adopted this stance recently when you couldn't win the debate of Superman vs (any dbz charracter actually).
But that supports what I a saying....only in competetive and policy debates is "winning" a factor....that's exactly what I said......we are no ton a high school debating team or are we?
I even have a quote from you talking about winning. . .
Originally posted by Bardock42
I will say it again, not Superman's Death was the last thing I read in his own storylines was him turning back fro Energy Superman.......Oh really, I'd like to see where you saw Kid Buu being knocked out....
You read the same books as I did...did you not? We can agree that the things I say happened in that books actually happened...do you really need Scans? Because you know I can't provide them and only because I can't provide them does not ean that I am wrong.
Nope, just wrong..I never said Goku was God in no wording, that's just a lie....
Yeah, well I stopped caring what you think is an excuse, so...whatever....
What the hell...Wally is not 132.000.000 times the speed of light..where did you get that one from....
I am not kidding, it's true...you can it is one of the earlier JLA episodes after the Darkseid Future world....
Not necessarily, the question is how powerful a Genkidama is....is the Genkidama more powerful than a Black Hole...or ore...I'd say yes...you say no, that'S the problem....
There is non evidence for either because we do not know what Buu is capable of....my first post was probably a mistake I was going by the reasonable Superman I know, and my belief that Buu is way overpowered....I see now it is not as clear, there is reason for both claims....oh by the way, this now actuallyy is an excuse towards you..no need to point it out....
Not more impressive...but more powerful against enemies....
You repeatedly attacked me for my views....I just said that I could not belive it......I apologize for that.
I did not asky ou to prove a Negativ yet did I? Is there evidence that he can? Can his Heat Vision do that for example?
You ask for proof in a comic book...you can proof everything for Superman (either way) and it'S hard to proof something for Dragonball (also both sides)
I will not keep answering all your wishes for evidence, which isn't possible....I cannot proof that the Genkidama is more powerful than a Black Hole but no one knows the opposite either....
I came to the conclusion that it'S not possible to compare DC to DB ... but you could actually saya you won, since I am not sure if Buu would win anymore, I have seen evidence from you that makes Superman just as overpowered as DBZ and maybe even more so I won't argue that point anymore.....take that as a "win" if you like.
Odd how you suddenly adopted the attitude of "You can't win in a debate" when it turned out YOU couldn't win in a debate.