I'm waiting to see how Demi replies to the fact that he uncovered his own biased by insinuating you don't have a relevant point of view.
I don't have a problem with Demigawd, I don't "know" him, C-Master. I think he's extremely biased toward me (as is being proven) and I think he's someone who will always argue for the sake of it. I think that behind all the essays that impress dullards, he's not all that.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He told me what my point was and what I was saying, you're denying this? It's on the first page for crying out loud.
If you're asking if he did, at any point, summarize a point you made, then yes....so what? So did you. Big deal. No evidence of word twisting at all. He just presented a better argument by exploiting a glaring weakness you've always had - lack of examples. He provided them. You didn't. It's as simple as that.
Doesn't mean I'm wrong. It's as plain as day on that thread and while I respect people's ability to believe whatever they want, to deny he did what he did is just biased.
Take yourself out of the equation - it's your thread, so you have a personal stake in it. Ask the other parties here what they thought - they disagree. are they all wrong? yes? Why? Because YOU say so? Because it's obvious to YOU?
Damn shame.
Then you say:
I say I deny it...because it didn't happen like that. What are you getting at?
I'm over here man, with the question. Answer it. You are only proving my biased point. Because you KNOW that by saying "Yes that's wrong" you'd be saying Creshosk was wrong.
Answer what? Did he twist your words? NO. Is word-twisting wrong? YES. Did he twist YOUR words? NO.
Happy?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, because this is coming from a guy who relentlessly pursued me across many threads and my PM box when I said "You don't know what you're talking about."You dropped my name in a negative sense even when I was no longer around. Now you will deny disliking me even after this, and that's the irony.
-AC
Are you accusing me of ever PMing you?
Originally posted by demigawd
If you're asking if he did, at any point, summarize a point you made, then yes....so what? So did you. Big deal. No evidence of word twisting at all. He just presented a better argument by exploiting a glaring weakness you've always had - lack of examples. He provided them. You didn't. It's as simple as that.
Hahaha now you're defending him. He summarised a point that he told me I had. Not my point. I continually had to keep telling him "No, that is not my point. This is." "You mean this though. I read between the lines." "No I mean THIS." "Ohh...so you're saying this?" "No." To paraphrase.
THINK about what you are defending here.
Originally posted by demigawd
Take yourself out of the equation - it's your thread, so you have a personal stake in it. Ask the other parties here what they thought - they disagree. are they all wrong? yes? Why? Because YOU say so? Because it's obvious to YOU?
I don't care if people agree on mine or Cresh's VIEWS. To DENY that he twisted, contorted and misinterpreted (purposefully) my points IS biased. Because it is in the posts, clear as day. You can see me telling him not to do it, because he's doing it.
Originally posted by demigawd
I say I deny it...because it didn't happen like that. What are you getting at?
It did actually happen, and you're denying it.
Originally posted by demigawd
Answer what? Did he twist your words? NO. Is word-twisting wrong? YES. Did he twist YOUR words? NO.Happy?
Hahahaha, see what you just did? You changed my questions! And you claim you're not biased? Please. You even asked the same pro-Cresh question twice.
Answer THESE ones:
Is it commendable when someone tells you what your point is to strengthen theirs, despite you continually saying "No, that's not it"?
Is it also commendable when someone twists what you mean and then tells you that you said what they said?
-AC
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Wasn't that the point?
Indeed. I asked because an accusation of "bias" suggest that something in my history with AC would prejudice me against him. Hit_or_miss, having registered in July, *couldn't* know about any bias because he doesn't know my history with AC. So I was asking what the nature of that conclusion was.
My guess is that his_or_miss didn't mean that I'm biased, but rather that he disagrees with my assessment of the thread, based on his own reading of it. Which is fine.
To know whether I'm literally being "biased" means he'd have to know that I have some form of history with AC and/or Creshok. He doesn't know that, as he said himself.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, because this is coming from a guy who relentlessly pursued me across many threads and my PM box when I said "You don't know what you're talking about."-AC
I dont dislike anyone i converse with on a comics book forum. Its not personal enough for me to harbour such feelings. I pursued you across threads because it was fun to do so. I was bored it was a good break from my uni work. Nothing more.
As for this Cresh/Demi stuff im just being honest. If i felt they were wrong id say so and i wouldnt be scared to say so.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I dont dislike anyone i converse with on a comics book forum. Its not personal enough for me to harbour such feelings. I pursued you across threads because it was fun to do so. I was bored it was a good break from my uni work. Nothing more.
I'm sure all those personal attempted disses and PM insults were out of boredom too? Haha. Pure bias. You mentioned me months after I had left this forum, in a negative way. You were flaming me relentlessly (and futile also) for a good few days. Moreover, and to prove my point, you view personal flaming as fun. So who's to say you're not defending Cresh because you think he's doing something fun?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As for this Cresh/Demi stuff im just being honest. If i felt they were wrong id say so and i wouldnt be scared to say so.
Well I've already proven you're biased. So whether they were wrong or not, you would never claim I was right.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Hahaha now you're defending him. He summarised a point that he told me I had. Not my point. I continually had to keep telling him "No, that is not my point. This is." "You mean this though. I read between the lines." "No I mean THIS." "Ohh...so you're saying this?" "No." To paraphrase.THINK about what you are defending here.
I don't get the point you're trying to make here? You're saying that I'm biased because I don't agree that he was twisting your words? What about Illadelph, who you'd agree isn't biased. He also said that there was no twisting. What about that?
I don't care if people agree on mine or Cresh's VIEWS. To DENY that he twisted, contorted and misinterpreted (purposefully) my points IS biased. Because it is in the posts, clear as day. You can see me telling him not to do it, because he's doing it.
So the people who said that he wasn't twisting...are they all biased...or what?
It did actually happen, and you're denying it.
No, I'm denying it because it didn't happen. As the majority would attest.
Hahahaha, see what you just did? You changed my questions! And you claim you're not biased? Please. You even asked the same pro-Cresh question twice.
It IS what you asked. And I answered the questions below, but since you missed my answers the first time, I'll answer them again for you.
Answer THESE ones:Is it commendable when someone tells you what your point is to strengthen theirs, despite you continually saying "No, that's not it"?
If that's genuinely NOT your point, then it's not commendable. But that IS your point and you're trying to weasel out of it, and they're nailing you to the issue, then it IS commendable. This was clearly the latter, and anybody who disagrees with me is biased.
Is it also commendable when someone twists what you mean and then tells you that you said what they said?
No, definitely not commendable. Very, very bad.
But...that's not what Cresh did to you, so that's an entirely hypothetical question.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
C-Master. I think he's extremely biased toward me (as is being proven) and I think he's someone who will always argue for the sake of it. I think that behind all the essays that impress dullards, he's not all that.-AC
Whats quite funny is that you say Cm is out for arguments yet i have seen you argue over minuscule shit for day's on end .
-GF
Originally posted by demigawd
Indeed. I asked because an accusation of "bias" suggest that something in my history with AC would prejudice me against him. Hit_or_miss, having registered in July, *couldn't* know about any bias because he doesn't know my history with AC. So I was asking what the nature of that conclusion was.My guess is that his_or_miss didn't mean that I'm biased, but rather that he disagrees with my assessment of the thread, based on his own reading of it. Which is fine.
To know whether I'm literally being "biased" means he'd have to know that I have some form of history with AC and/or Creshok. He doesn't know that, as he said himself.
Unless his disagreement with your assessment was based around the fact that he thought your perspective was biased- IE as impartial judgment.
A judgment which is favourable to one side for some reason. Bias.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Maybe he MIGHT mean that he gathers you are biased for Creshosk by what he reads here!!!Shock horror!
-AC
By defending him from you? I suppose if he agrees that Cresh did the twisting and I'm saying that he's not, and that's an example of bias rather than disagreement, then fine. He's still in the minority.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Unless his disagreement with your assessment was based around the fact that he thought your perspective was biased- IE as impartial judgment.A judgment which is favourable to one side for some reason. Bias.
But one would have to know that my perspective was biased. Saying, "X was right" isn't evidence of bias just because it's unfavorable to Y. Now if you knew that X bought me three dozen roses the day before, and THEN I said "X was right", then you can claim bias. If you don't know one way or the other, you can't claim bias simply because you don't agree with it.
Originally posted by demigawd
I don't get the point you're trying to make here? You're saying that I'm biased because I don't agree that he was twisting your words? What about Illadelph, who you'd agree isn't biased. He also said that there was no twisting. What about that?
If you and Illadelph happen to think that the X-Men would beat the F4, that doesn't make you biased. The fact that you have continually made a point to disagree with me on almost everything and agree with nearly anyone I'm debating, suggests bias and people see it.
You again dodged my point. Cresh told ME what my points were, I told him he was wrong and explained my point, to which he again told me I was either a liar or tried changing my points...again. You're denying he did this, it's lame.
Originally posted by demigawd
So the people who said that he wasn't twisting...are they all biased...or what?
Not necessarily biased. Being stupid? Yes. Because it's all there in the thread.
Originally posted by demigawd
No, I'm denying it because it didn't happen. As the majority would attest.
Majority doesn't equal right. He DID change and twist my points. It's seriously scary that you deny he did it. Because you can LOOK (look) through my quotes and see me highlighting something he's said, saying "No, that's NOT my point" and have him again deny it, twist it, or call me a liar.
He did it in THIS thread. Called me a liar, said I use deceit. When I said I didn't, he again called me a liar and said I was. What do you make of this? <------Don't dodge.
Originally posted by demigawd
It IS what you asked. And I answered the questions below, but since you missed my answers the first time, I'll answer them again for you.If that's genuinely NOT your point, then it's not commendable. But that IS your point and you're trying to weasel out of it, and they're nailing you to the issue, then it IS commendable. This was clearly the latter, and anybody who disagrees with me is biased.
Now YOU'RE telling me what my point is? Jesus christ.
I made CLEAR points. He told me what my point was and it wasn't what I said, and I was forced to explain it to him time and time again. Why are you missing this? On purpose or what? Seriously.
Originally posted by demigawd
No, definitely not commendable. Very, very bad.But...that's not what Cresh did to you, so that's an entirely hypothetical question.
He did do it. It's in the goddamn thread for crying out loud. It's so blatantly that I can only deduce that you are turning a blind eye.
Originally posted by grey fox
Whats quite funny is that you say Cm is out for arguments yet i have seen you argue over minuscule shit for day's on end .
I'll never tell someone what their point is, purposefully change their words or quote them falsely.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm sure all those personal attempted disses and PM insults were out of boredom too? Haha. Pure bias. You mentioned me months after I had left this forum, in a negative way. You were flaming me relentlessly (and futile also) for a good few days. Moreover, and to prove my point, you view personal flaming as fun. So who's to say you're not defending Cresh because you think he's doing something fun?Well I've already proven you're biased. So whether they were wrong or not, you would never claim I was right.
-AC
Dont present personal opinion as fact. Youve proven nothing. You've stated im biased because of a bit of trolling i did many months ago. Im not fussed about that that was ages ago. You seem to be the one holding on to all of that despite the fact it was nearly 8 months ago. Ive visited threads in the GDF where youve referred to me in a negative fashion i guess that means youre still hurting about the trolling hence the attempt to discount my opinions on this situation. It works both ways AC.
All this has stemmed from Demi saying you got owned in a thread. So what?!! Just how old are you to be fazed by that. Youve made your point the link to the threads here just stop beating a dead horse. Noone cares whether you got owned or not and neither should you. Its a comic book forum. 😂