I resort to it cause if you read the other Phoenix vs threads all of your points have been disproved already and Fanboys never listen now matter how much you throw the truth at them. So that is why I don't feel like repeating whats been said 100 times before.
And seriously, Even when I type drunk I don't use half the bad spelling and grammar you do.
Originally posted by Ext@nt
I resort to it cause if you read the other Phoenix vs threads all of your poitns have been disproved already and Fanboys never listen now matter how much you throw the turth at them. So that is why I don't feel like repeating whats been said 100 times before.And seriously, Even when I type drunk I don't use half the bad spellign and grammar you do.
as i said man i wont dispute the fact that your more clever than me so stop raisin that point cause we know u will win..and again since i am a fanboy what does that make you? you hate the phoenix you might try to hide it behind your so called superior intelect but fact is you jus hate her...so stop tryin to pretend you dont......i told u already hate marvel, there are many facts in comics books you jus choose to listen to the one that prove you right.
Originally posted by tiakocom
man i wont bother...cuz i have the comic unless he's disputin the writters them self, cause i have it and jean is there as the phoenix holdin the universe in her hands and that what i go by not by what someone thinks
That was a visualization of the Universe, NOT the actual Universe.
There were a bunch of low end Avatars there and all of them were the same size as Jean.
Are you saying that Giraud, who got owned by Dormammu or Rachel who got handled by Mordred the Mystic and Quasar can hold Universes in their hands?
Here's the Scan with Jean and the visualization of the Universe that represents the events of Here Comes Tomorrow (the Future that is NOW)
Phoenix is CLUELESS as to WHAT this is, or WHAT to do with it.
Jean says, "Did I have to FIX something that was dying?
What is it?"
It tells her, "A badly wounded Orphan Universe...Phoenix work"
Fine.....Now WHAT does that mean?....Jean Grey DOESN'T KNOW either.
AM I LYING? LOOK AT THE SCAN!!!
"But...but WHAT's that supposed to mean?
Phoenix asked, "but what's that supposed to mean?"
AFTER She was told it's a "A badly wounded Orphan Universe...Phoenix work"
Now, it TELLS Phoenix WHAT THAT MEANS,
"That Henry's heart's broken, that Scott succumbs to loneliness", ect..ect..
Is it saying,
"This Universe needs to be Fixed anyway?" NO!
"This Universe is injured or damged and needs to be repaired?" NO!
"This Universe needs a Future? NO!
So WHAT does it SAY WHEN Jean ASKED "but what's that supposed to mean?"
"That Henry's heart's broken, that Scott succumbs to loneliness", ect..ect..
(This is the OUTCOME of Here Comes Tomorrow)
NOW, to Change that OUTCOME, Phoenix did NOT manipulate the Universe.
AM I LYING?
Here is GRANT MORRISON'S and company telling us HOW Phoenix CHANGED that Future.
Just like in the Comic book, which anyone can see as plain as day.
She actually went to the past and forced Scott to be with Emma
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Actually I like Marvel and it's nto the phoenix I hate but the fanboys and you know I've said this and again what makes you a fanboy is that you dont listen when somone tries to tell you the truth over and over again.
you know for someone who tries to act so clever you should try and check your own spellin before passing judgement, and your right i am a fanboy my life would not be complete if phoenix was not the best now im gonna go to sleep and cry about it, i hope i jus made your day
Phoenix Avatars can Heal Universes from certain ailments, but this has nothing to do with their Defensive or Offensive Power.
Giraud healing Eternity
Dormammu HANDLING Giraud (Phoenix Avatar)
Dormammu still HANDLING Giraud (Phoenix Avatar) and the Entire Team and the same time
Giraud (Phoenix Avatar) and the Entire Team, stay HANDLED
Rachel Summers a Prime Avatar getting Owned by Mordred from another Universe, (Mordred has absolute control of Rachel)
Rachel Summers a Prime Avatar getting Owned by Quasar
Quasar holding his own against Rachel Summers a Prime Avatar AND Mordred at the same time, while protecting Nightcrawler, Meggan and Captain Britain
Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix Avatars can Heal Universe from certain ailments, but this has nothing to do with their Defensive or Offensive Power.Giraud healing Eternity
Dormammu HANDLING Giraud (Phoenix Avatar)
Dormammu still HANDLING Giraud (Phoenix Avatar) and the Entire Team and the same time
Giraud (Phoenix Avatar) and the Entire Team, stay HANDLED
Rachel Summers a Prime Avatar getting Owned by Mordred from another Universe, (Mordred has absolute control of Rachel)
Rachel Summers a Prime Avatar getting Owned by Quasar
Quasar holding his own against Rachel Summers a Prime Avatar AND Mordred at the same time, while protecting Nightcrawler, Meggan and Captain Britain
im not disputing that fact but that guy jus hate phoenix period...and im all for keepin everythin balanced but to him phoenix might as well be a street fighter i already told him he shoul take it up to marvel since they are the one writtin the stories
Originally posted by Ext@nt
LOL if you want go ahead. But this is a fourm for logical debates, Mr M just used scans to disprove your claims and in a typical ignorant fashion you ignore it completely.
dont pretend your comments makes senses...u can see my reply to him, if it was jus fanboy talk as u claim he would have said somethin by now but he hasnt...its only you who have this undyin hate for phoenix, so stop tryin to drag others in your claims cuz according to you anyone sayin nice things about phoenix must be a fanboy
He didnt reply cause like I said he tried to use logic and scans to prove it and you ignored everything he said.
And you know What my problem is and your just spamming the thread now ignoring what everyone says.
And I don't mind if people say nice things about the phoenix. Just as long as they don't claim it can hold a universe in its hands and say it all powerfull and that it can beat every character in comicdom.
So no there are many good things about the Phoenix, fanboys like you are not one of them.
Originally posted by Ext@nt
He didnt reply cause like I said he tried to use logic and scans to prove it and you ignored everything he said.And you know What my problem is and your just spamming the thread now ignoring what everyone says.
And I don't mind if people say nice things about the phoenix. Just as long as they don't claim it can hold a universe in its hands and say it all powerfull and that it can beat every character in comicdom.
So no there are many good things about the Phoenix, fanboys like you are not one of them.
yea right...your right from now on i wil take all u say as gospel...i learned so much from you now...my life is so fufiled 🙄
and jus to prove something so trival i told u already check my thread history and see how many phoenix threads i replied to...you jus love that phrase dont you? "fanboy"
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Wolverine has never 'Killed' surfer, he apperently stabbed him but didn't kill him.
Originally posted by Ext@nt
And yes Adamantium can peirce his skin.
Originally posted by Ext@ntWOLVERINE COULD NEVER KILL SURFER!!
Just cause Wolverine could potentially kill Surfer doesn't by any amount reduce the fact that Surfer could quite easily kill the Avatar.
Originally posted by Ext@ntI have yet to see more than a couple fanboys in this thread. Not everyone that posts against you is a fanboy. Just cause you hate Phoenix, doesn't mean that she loses every battle.
But the fact that Wolverine killed Dark Phoenix is. Marvel Holds the Exiles Storylines as canon.Sorry Fanboys.
I'm not trying to be an ass hole, I'm just trying to help you.
This is like Wolverine vs a Pittbull, and everyone who says Wolverine wins. I would call a fanboy.
Originally posted by Ext@ntNO, people think she can beat a herald, not everyone in the universe!!! Your bringing everyone in the universe into this, when I don't think Surfer is that powerful.
LOL No again I don't hate the phoenix, just the fanboyism aura that surrounds it.As I said it doesnt have very many impressive offensive feats.
And you guys just need to accept that shes not able to beat everyone in the universe.
It's really simple.
Originally posted by tiakocomIt was an orphan universe. She also was able to hold it because of the place she was in.
man i wont bother...cuz i have the comic unless he's disputin the writters them self, cause i have it and jean is there as the phoenix holdin the universe in her hands and that what i go by not by what someone thinks
Its not obvious,
Mr M and I have posted lots of evidence to counter these points which people seem to love to forget.
Post evidence to back it up or stay out of a fight where you don't belong.
In the time I've been on here I've seen people try their damnest to show proof in the form of comic events and scans to back up their arguements and all they get in return is crap from people who think Phoenix is unbeatable.
The only offensive feats Phoenix has on panel is that it turned a tree into gold, held some x-men in the air and messed with Masterminds head which he recovered from, and it took a shot at Galactus which didn't even take him down.
The Phoenix's function in the universe is not an offensive one. And the Avatar is quite vulnerable to attack as has been proven many many times in the comics in ways both canon and non.
Surfer's blasts are more then capable of killing Jean and wounding the Phoenix force. Try to remember he vaporized thanos in one shot.
Im sure none of you will listen to anything I've said and just repeat the same rethoric you have before.
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Surfer's blasts are more then capable of killing Jean and wounding the Phoenix force. Try to remember he vaporized thanos in one shot.
Please don't use Surfer vaporizing Thanos as a measure of his power. There have been too many times where Surfer's blasts have done little to no damage to Thanos, so any attack by Surfer that one shots Thanos is PIS.
Originally posted by bigbran
It was an orphan universe. She also was able to hold it because of the place she was in.
Actually it was a visualization of a Universe that represented the events of Here Comes Tomorrow.
The White Hot Room doesn't manifest Universes, thats more fallacy engineered by you know who.
WHR is an access point to Alternate Realities.
Just like Otherworld's Watchtower.
"From here, you Access any point in Creation"
Just like the Nexus of Realities
Thanos travelling ot the Nexus of Reality
He traverses many Universes
"I am Thanos....a unique being in Any Reality"
"The Nexus of Reality from HERE Springs ALL That Is."
Just wanted to clear that up.
