Original Abomination (at that time, he first appeared) vs. Classic Juggernaut

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Original Abomination (at that time, he first appeared) vs. Classic Juggernaut

two of the main-Hulk-opponents...

Original Abomination has beaten Hulk nearly to death

Classic Juggernaut can stalemate a very angry Hulk... perhaps beat him sometimes...

who will survive an one on one encounter between those two

Juggernaut Overall just better than Abom. All Abom has is strength and not much of anything else.Has decent endurance and durability but not anywhere close to Jugs. Plus Abom doesn't have a healing factor and if he has any it is very slight and hasn'y helped him in any fights. He can't increase his strength while Juggs can.

emil

I think this is a stalemate. Abomination's too strong and Juggernaut's too durable.

Juggernaut.

They fight until Hulk arrives and clean the room.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
They fight until Hulk arrives and clean the room.
Naw, that's Wonder Woman's job.

I'd probably go for a stalemate as well. Emil ain’t putting Cain down, but I have a hard time seeing Cain do that to Emil either.

Juggernaut, wins this. His strength has almost always been a match for any Hulk he's faced (taking War Hulk into account). And none of them have been able to actually hurt him yet (War Hulk or WWH). He'll match the original, twice-as-strong, Abomination and beat him into unconsciousness easily within a few pages.

My opinion of course.

Originally posted by lft4ded
Juggernaut, wins this. His strength has almost always been a match for any Hulk he's faced (taking War Hulk into account). And none of them have been able to actually hurt him yet (War Hulk or WWH). He'll match the original, twice-as-strong, Abomination and beat him into unconsciousness easily within a few pages.

My opinion of course.

To be honest its not just you opinion i regard it as fact. Classic full powered Juggernaut is the same strength level as an enraged Hulk, which means Abomination at his original twice as strong level (which is about 200tons) hasn't got any strength advantage. As Juggernaut is completely invulnerable to injury while Abomination just has high durability and a lower hf than Hulk, its a definite win for Juggy

Abomination at his original levels beat an enraged Hulk and left Hulk dying on the ground.

Originally posted by Newjak
Juggernaut Overall just better than Abom. All Abom has is strength and not much of anything else.Has decent endurance and durability but not anywhere close to Jugs. Plus Abom doesn't have a healing factor and if he has any it is very slight and hasn'y helped him in any fights. He can't increase his strength while Juggs can.

When has juggs ever increased his strength?

Juggernaut wins.

Originally posted by lft4ded
Juggernaut, wins this. His strength has almost always been a match for any Hulk he's faced (taking War Hulk into account). And none of them have been able to actually hurt him yet (War Hulk or WWH). He'll match the original, twice-as-strong, Abomination and beat him into unconsciousness easily within a few pages.

My opinion of course.

Good points. Using War Hulk and WWHulk as examples. Considering those versions of Hulk trump the version Abom. left for dead. Didn't Juggy leave Hulk for dead once?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
When has juggs ever increased his strength?

I think in the 8th day series.

he doesnt "increase" so much as call upon more of the infinite source that is Cyttorak (classic and i guess most recently current) http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m179/Ptr_Grifin/Juggy_vote1.jpg

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
he doesnt "increase" so much as call upon more of the infinite source that is Cyttorak (classic and i guess most recently current) http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m179/Ptr_Grifin/Juggy_vote1.jpg

That's not even really an official stance at Marvel.

The rest of the newsletter is clipped out, but they go on to say that their opinions can be swayed by more fanmail.

i would say abom at original levels would have the defiante strength advantange over juggs but he would still beunalbe to harm him, at best knock him around a bit. Juggs would out last him though, i see this being a stalemate

I see Juggernaut as the clear victor time and again. The Abomination will be out lasted, worn out and defeated every time.
Unless someone can prove that The Abomination hits harder than Mjolnir, Cain won't feel a thing.

Juggernaut 10/10

Originally posted by Jonathanos
Abomination at his original levels beat an enraged Hulk and left Hulk dying on the ground.

He certainly did, but this was in a very early Hulk story in Tales to Astonish#90. At that point in time the Hulk's base strength was less than it went on to become. Admittedly the majority of Hulks wins over Abomination were when his strength was halved to 100tons. But in Hulk#270 the savage Hulk encounters a fully powered 200ton Abomination and still beats the crap out of him. The reason being that Hulk was now far more powerful than when they 1st fought and his anger quiclky got him to the Abominations level of strength-something he couldn't do in their 1st fight before Emil nearly killed him. Juggernaut however is probably already the same level of strength as 200ton Abomination and can't be hurt by physical force- so theres no stalemate-Juggy wears down Abomination and knocks him out