Originally posted by AccelThere must have not bee enough fan-mail sent in then. Because in the Green Mail in Hulk #465 or so they said basically the same thing. It's not clear who is stronger but if you go by their fights I would say Juggy is because:
That's not even really an official stance at Marvel.The rest of the newsletter is clipped out, but they go on to say that their opinions can be swayed by more fanmail.
1. Juggy pushed War Hulk all over Egypt.
2. Juggy held Proff. Hulk underwater against his own will with one hand.
3. Juggy ever so slightly pushed WWHulk back.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Juggy was pushing him back while War Hulk was using his own strength. Then War Hulk started to use the plot-device to stop Juggy. Hence the green energy coming from Hulks body at the time.
In this particular instance it was really not a test of strength juggs enchantment was in play being unstoppable when he is in motion.The test of strength was when they fought in wwh x-men.
Originally posted by BUSTER1
He certainly did, but this was in a very early Hulk story in Tales to Astonish#90. At that point in time the Hulk's base strength was less than it went on to become. Admittedly the majority of Hulks wins over Abomination were when his strength was halved to 100tons. But in Hulk#270 the savage Hulk encounters a fully powered 200ton Abomination and still beats the crap out of him. The reason being that Hulk was now far more powerful than when they 1st fought and his anger quiclky got him to the Abominations level of strength-something he couldn't do in their 1st fight before Emil nearly killed him. Juggernaut however is probably already the same level of strength as 200ton Abomination and can't be hurt by physical force- so theres no stalemate-Juggy wears down Abomination and knocks him out
Juggernaut is not as strong as Abomination's original level. That's silly. Normal Abomination is able to go toe-to-toe with an enraged Hulk and sometimes he even has the edge for a while. At his original strength, he's twice that.
Hulk was able to beat Abomination in IH #270 because Abomination underestimated Hulk. Hulk was face down, half-buried and Abomination walked away, thinking Hulk already was unconscious or dead. That gave Hulk the chance he needed to recover. Prior to that, it was a repeat of their first fight, with Hulk overwhelmed by Abomination's far superior strength.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
There must have not bee enough fan-mail sent in then. Because in the Green Mail in Hulk #465 or so they said basically the same thing. It's not clear who is stronger but if you go by their fights I would say Juggy is because:1. Juggy pushed War Hulk all over Egypt.
2. Juggy held Proff. Hulk underwater against his own will with one hand.
3. Juggy ever so slightly pushed WWHulk back.
Juggernaut has a mystical ability that makes him "unstoppable."
Hulk is stronger than Ajax but Ajax forced Hulk's head underwater with one hand.
Originally posted by Jonathanos
Juggernaut is not as strong as Abomination's original level. That's silly. Normal Abomination is able to go toe-to-toe with an enraged Hulk and sometimes he even has the edge for a while. At his original strength, he's twice that.Hulk was able to beat Abomination in IH #270 because Abomination underestimated Hulk. Hulk was face down, half-buried and Abomination walked away, thinking Hulk already was unconscious or dead. That gave Hulk the chance he needed to recover. Prior to that, it was a repeat of their first fight, with Hulk overwhelmed by Abomination's far superior strength.
Juggernaut being original Abominations strength ain't silly. Juggernaut at his full classic stenth level was a match in strength for the WWH, who when enraged was at a higher level of strength than Original Abomination. And in Hulk #270 the Hluk was far more powerful than he was in his 1st fight with Abomination in Tales to Astonish, otherwise the initial beating he received from Abomination, in Hulk 270 would have at least rendered him unconscious. All the fights that Hulk had with Abomination, when Emil was at 100ton strength level, should have been very 1 sided in favour of the Hulk as his anger would quickly raise his strength to a much higher level than Abominations. They were always shown to be even though for the purpose of the story
