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Luke in ROTJ sucked. He was shit with a saber, his Force powers were raw and untamed, and AOTC Anakin would **** him right up one side and down the other.
[QUOTE=5305606]Originally posted by Tangible God
[B]ROTS Vader would be double the overall power of Sidious WITHOUT a suit. WITH the suit, he goes down to 80%.
ROTJ Vader--was not putting out his full effort in his fight with Luke, he may even have took a dive, we know he's better than what he showed. Luke swung like a teeball player and brought down his "untrying" father.
Vader stood back up despite being beaten and having his hand dismembered. Palpatine, after some 23 years of utter loyalty from Vader, and with his whole concentrion focused on kiling Luke, is completely taking off guard (yes, even him, uh huh huh) when Vader PICKS HIM UP...not defeats him combat, but BENCHPRESSES him!
Vader was not stronger than Palpatine, Luke was not stronger than Vader, that being said then the Vader with the potential of DOUBLE Palpatine's power, minus three years, will still kick the shit out of the Luke that "beat" his future mechanical self.
1) With the suit he could get to 100% of Sidious but only ever reached 80%.
2) Vader may not have been trying his hardest to kill Luke but he was certainly trying his hardest not to die, and he failed.
3) Anakin killed the Emperor while he was distracted.
OMFG... for the last goddamn time, darthsith19...
it's not LACK of technology that makes Luke swing his lightsaber like a moron!
It's not!
He's a BARELY TRAINED FORCE USER!
Can you wrap your mind around that instead of insisting it's poor movie making? Hell, by that logic I can say that ESB Luke is a better saber fighter than ANH Obi-Wan because in ANH the technology sucked. Or better yet, I could say that the animals in the Genosian colleseum are deadlier than the rancor in ROTJ because the rancor looked like shit due to movie making limitations.
See how stupid that is? Don't fall for the dark side of idiocy, darthsith19.