Misconceptions about judgements appear again...
Judgements can be made, but we must be careful to not be blind to our own flaws. Also, when we judge others, God will hold us to the same standard. Telling someone that being promiscuous is risking your salvation and warning them against it is not judgement. However, condemning someone to hell for it would be as this is beyond our control. JM simply needs to be more careful, but she is not being a hypocrite.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Misconceptions about judgements appear again...
Judgements can be made, but we must be careful to not be blind to our own flaws. Also, when we judge others, God will hold us to the same standard. Telling someone that being promiscuous is risking your salvation and warning them against it is not judgement. However, condemning someone to hell for it would be as this is beyond our control. JM simply needs to be more careful, but she is not being a hypocrite.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
No I Judge to make a point.jm
She believes in Jesus's word, but condemns people. That's hypocrisy.
You made no point but to show us how ignorant you are.
Originally posted by RocasAtoll
She believes in Jesus's word, but condemns people. That's hypocrisy.You made no point but to show us how ignorant you are.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Who did she condemn? She didn't.
Read Jesus's teachings on judgement in context and you will see that I am not wrong. You simply choose to see the Bible in a way that you can attack it. You are very wrong in this approach.
She said that gay people, prostitutes, and permiscious women deserve to go to hell..i.e. deserve to be tortured for all eternity..
There's no other way to look at it, except that she is being hateful, judgemental, and cruel.
You are the one who fails to see that statement for what is truly is...enough of this hypocrisy, and enough of your bullshit ok? please...
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Your links mean shit, as the content within them has already been stated by hypocrits like Bush....[b]The Bible ITSELF clearly states that homosexuality is DETESTABLE and PUNISHABLE by DEATH
I do not care what your little website says....your website DOES NOT CHANGE THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE
If one were to read that section of the Bible, NOT your website, they could easily find religious justification for discrimination of homosexuals. [/B]
I do not care about any bullshit you're going to spew at me next about how I'm being a hypocrite. I hate you.
You demonstrate a lack of intelligence and the ability to show even the most rudimentary understanding of Scripture. You twist words and make idiotic threads slamming Christians.
That website clearly shows that it wasn't homosexuality that God condemned, not that you bothered to read it. Furthermore, allow me to copy-paste something I wrote after finding that website (in regards to the matter being interpretive):
It is incredibly important to take into account the cultural ways of life at the time when interpreting the Bible.Let us examine a verse that can only be described, in my most humble (albeit accurate) of opinion, as a "cranslation". It's like a translation, only crap.
Proverbs 25:21-22
"If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee."
Now, when reading this strictly as the Bible is written, one gets three things.
1. Be kind to your enemy and take care of him when he is in need.
2. You will heap burning coals on his head.
3. The LORD will reward you.
So, basically, if we're nice to our enemies, God will reward us and we will “heap burning coals” on their heads. That sounds pretty uncomfortable for our enemies—by helping them in their need, God will punish them for their mistreatment of us by burning them (presumably adding weight to their punishment in the afterlife).
That’s what it means, right?
Right?
No, not really. In fact, it has absolutely nothing to do with punishment. Rather, “heaping burning coals on his head” refers to the practice of carrying coals from one fire source to another via a container on his head.
Furthermore, the cranslation says “for thou shalt” do it, making it sound as though there is a cause-effect relationship involved. However, that particular line is instructing one to further care for one’s enemies—making the LORD pleased.
That is why there can be interpretational issues with the Bible.
In addition, the man supporting this viewpoint is not someone who just says, "Well, the old laws of the Bible really aren't applicable today, so being gay is fine." He's not just saying, "Well, that was meant for them and not for us. God wants us to love everyone, so let's get rid of the OT."
No! He uses Scripture and historical context to show why same-sex relationships are not sinful--and not just today, but back when the Bible was written.
As one final thing, look at the Leviticus verse most commonly used to condemn homosexuality: it only prohibits male same-sex relationships. There is no mention of women. If one is going to use the direct translation only, then female same-sex relationships are fine whereas male ones are not. But, if one takes the time to consider why they were prohibited--as seen in the article--then one can understand.
I'm going to ignore all the crap DarksideJedi said about prostitutes, because well I already knew she was a judgemental *****.
Heres proof that in twenty years after all the ignorant conservatives die or become too grizzled to care a politics Gay marriage will be made legal:
These are the results of a CBS news poll on Gay marriage.
65 & older: - For Marriage: 12% - Civil Union: 32% - Against Marriage & Civil Union: 51%
45 - 64: - For Marriage: 26% - Civil Union: 29% - Against Marriage & Civil Union - 41%
30-44: - For Marriage: 29% - Civil Union: 25% - Against Marriage & Civil Union: 44%
18-29 years: - For Marriage: 43% - Civil Union: 32% - Against Marriage & Civil Union: 25%
Originally posted by FeceMan
I hate you. So very, very much.
It is the current Christian way 😉 What else is new?
Originally posted by FeceMan
I do not care about any bullshit you're going to spew at me next about how I'm being a hypocrite.
No...you're not a hypocrit...you're very upfront with your hate....
Originally posted by FeceMan
I hate you.
I know..i know...i get it. A lot of Christians do 😉
Originally posted by FeceMan
You demonstrate a lack of intelligence and the ability to show even the most rudimentary understanding of Scripture. You twist words and make idiotic threads slamming Christians.
Twist words? The Bible itself says Homosexuality is "detestable" and "punishable by death"...how can you DENY something that is right there? Idiot....
Originally posted by FeceMan
That website clearly shows that it wasn't homosexuality that God condemned, not that you bothered to read it. Furthermore, allow me to copy-paste something I wrote after finding that website (in regards to the matter being interpretive):
Yes, and it says how it's okay to be LESBIAN but not GAY
It is still ANTI-GAY.....you have proven nothing. IT is sexist, and a typical machismo take...most gay-bashers dislike homosexual men, but LOVE homosexual women droolio
Hmm...God must love Lesbian ACTION ! Anything to serve the MAN ! I mean..the straight man.... 🙄
Again...hypocrisy at its finest.
Way to respond in your usual fashion, Urizen.
The Bible never once says that 'homosexuality' is detestable, you simpleton! The only time the word 'homosexual' is used is in the New Testament, and that is a complete mistranslation of the words written. Why don't you read the ****ing page I posted, read what I wrote, and use that God-given glob of grey matter inside your skull that I am assuming is capable of the most basic mental functions?!
P.S. Alliteration was unintentional.
Originally posted by dani_california
I'm going to ignore all the crap DarksideJedi said about prostitutes, because well I already knew she was a judgemental *****.Heres proof that in twenty years after all the ignorant conservatives die or become too grizzled to care a politics Gay marriage will be made legal:
These are the results of a CBS news poll on Gay marriage.
65 & older: - For Marriage: 12% - Civil Union: 32% - Against Marriage & Civil Union: 51%
45 - 64: - For Marriage: 26% - Civil Union: 29% - Against Marriage & Civil Union - 41%
30-44: - For Marriage: 29% - Civil Union: 25% - Against Marriage & Civil Union: 44%
18-29 years: - For Marriage: 43% - Civil Union: 32% - Against Marriage & Civil Union: 25%
Proves pretty much what I said. Slowly but surely, homosexuals will get equal rights (as did African-Americans) like everyone else.
You can holler and protest all you want but it doesn't change the fact that your gay newborn cousin will probably be able to marry in twenty years....
😬
Originally posted by FeceMan
Way to respond in your usual fashion, Urizen.The Bible never once says that 'homosexuality' is detestable, you simpleton. The only time the word 'homosexual' is used is in the New Testament, and that is a complete mistranslation of the words written.
Thats because the word the bible uses is 'Sodomy' and its mentioned many times