On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Started by Shakyamunison274 pages

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Tell that to Goddess Kali...

What is exactly is the definition of lifestyle in this context? What do people mean when they call homosexuality a "lifestyle"?

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What I said still stands by the way: having kids doesnt indicate a person's preference.

I have... 😆

Most of the homosexuals that I know, hate the flaming f-a-g-s. I am making the assumption that we are talking about the majority of homosexuals that would not stand out in a crowd.

As far as religion and Homosexuality goes, Jesus never mentions it. It is no relevance. Christians get this idea out of Old Testament stories of wicked Sodomizers , but in fact this was translated from Hebrew to Greek to English. What the original intent for the word Sodomy was "to take Forcably."

Originally posted by Versyn Gaul
As far as religion and Homosexuality goes, Jesus never mentions it. It is no relevance. Christians get this idea out of Old Testament stories of wicked Sodomizers , but in fact this was translated from Hebrew to Greek to English. What the original intent for the word Sodomy was "to take Forcably."

So, what you saying is that homosexuality is not a sin, but rape is. That would make more sense to me.

Yes ,Shakyamunison,
Jesus said "The old ways tell you to hate your Enemy, But I say Love your enemy for if you love only those who love you,does not even the Pagan do that" "The Old ways tell you ,You should not murder or you shall face judgment, But I say, you shall not have Anger in your heart for you will face judgment" "Reconcile with your adversary" "If he takes your tunic offer him your cloak" "Blessed are the Merciful, for they will be shown mercy"

NOW can someone please tell me how damning Homosexuality can be a righteous thing?

I am a Buddhist by the way 🙂 Ohm Mani Padme Um brother boddhisatva

Originally posted by Versyn Gaul
Yes ,Shakyamunison,
Jesus said "The old ways tell you to hate your Enemy, But I say Love your enemy for if you love only those who love you,does not even the Pagan do that" "The Old ways tell you ,You should not murder or you shall face judgment, But I say, you shall not have Anger in your heart for you will face judgment" "Reconcile with your adversary" "If he takes your tunic offer him your cloak" "Blessed are the Merciful, for they will be shown mercy"

NOW can someone please tell me how damning Homosexuality can be a righteous thing?

I am a Buddhist by the way 🙂 Ohm Mani Padme Um brother boddhisatva

Many of the things that Jesus said make more sense when seen through a Buddhist mind set.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Many of the things that Jesus said make more sense when seen through a Buddhist mind set.

What doesn't make sense when seen through a Buddhist mind set? Well besides violence of course...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
What doesn't make sense when seen through a Buddhist mind set? Well besides violence of course...

That is a big question. I don't know that I could answer it easily. Plus it would be off topic.

Jesus was Buddha, its only the crapp like Paul who "Gets a vision" and John and "Revilations" that scew the message. Jesus and Buddha had the exact same message.

The message being " Love, Kindness, and compassion toward all living beings"

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Many of the things that Jesus said make more sense when seen through a Buddhist mind set.

That's most likely because he thought universal mysticism/hermistic type beliefs. People forget that mordern Christianity is a make-shift religion created by constantine and the consoul of niccea. Hell, the Vatican itself was built over a temple of Mithra's and many of the sculptures are of Greeco-Roman Dieties.

Here's Jupiter as Saint Peter

Well said brother Ashtar.

Originally posted by Versyn Gaul
Jesus was Buddha, its only the crapp like Paul who "Gets a vision" and John and "Revilations" that scew the message. Jesus and Buddha had the exact same message.

However, Jesus did not teach the three vehicles, but in the Lotus Sutra, Buddha proclaimed that of the three vehicles were expedient means (a way to get people to a level of understanding to be able to comprehend the true nature of realty). The Lotus Sutra (the greatest of all the Sutras) later in the 16th chapter reviles the one vehicle, or Buddha Hood. If you where a first century Jew and you read the Lotus Sutra, you might interpret this one vehicle or Buddha Hood as God the father.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's most likely because he thought universal mysticism/hermistic type beliefs. People forget that mordern Christianity is a make-shift religion created by constantine and the consoul of niccea. Hell, the Vatican itself was built over a temple of Mithra's and many of the sculptures are of Greeco-Roman Dieties.

Here's Jupiter as Saint Peter

Is the pope really just an old man who happened upon power because he can get into the minds of Catholic followers? He's not the "Catholic god on Earth?"

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, Jesus did not teach the three vehicles, but in the Lotus Sutra, Buddha proclaimed that of the three vehicles were expedient means (a way to get people to a level of understanding to be able to comprehend the true nature of realty). The Lotus Sutra (the greatest of all the Sutras) later in the 16th chapter reviles the one vehicle, or Buddha Hood. If you where a first century Jew and you read the Lotus Sutra, you might interpret this one vehicle or Buddha Hood as God the father.

We have no idea what the Original Christian teachings were because they distorted by the council of Niccea.
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Is the pope really just an old man who happened upon power because he can get into the minds of Catholic followers? He's not the "Catholic god on Earth?"

You have to understand that the Catholic church is a religion created for Imperialistic purposes. So, that would fit perfectly, besides the Vatican controls the catholic Church and is run by the Black Pope.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
We have no idea what the Original Christian teachings were because they distorted by the council of Niccea.

Well, I believe that Jesus had access to the Lotus Sutra. Most of his teaching seems to come to agree with the Lotus Sutra.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Well, I believe that Jesus had access to the Lotus Sutra. Most of his teaching seems to come to agree with the Lotus Sutra.

Well mysticism and spirituality predate's religion and there are many universal idea's.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Well mysticism and spirituality predate's religion and there are many universal idea's.

There is the argument that the truth is the truth. Regardless of how you find it, it will always be the same.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is the argument that the truth is the truth. Regardless of how you find it, it will always be the same.

Yeah, It really seems that way from my research on mysticism.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
What is exactly is the definition of lifestyle in this context? What do people mean when they call homosexuality a "lifestyle"?

Many people who are ignorant on the subject of sexuality only see homosexuality as an act, or a behavior. Not as an orientation.

However, homosexuality, like heterosexuality, is more than just a behavior.

It is a part of who they actually are, not just what they do. Heterosexuality is a big part of who you are as well. Your heterosexuality lead you to fall in love with your wife/girlfreind, it created your children, it created your family, it determined many of the life choices and decisions you have made, and has contributed to your happiness.

Likewise, although being Gay is not the defining factor in my person, it has determined many of my actions, thoughts, choices, perceptions, feelings, etc.

I'll share:

My sexuality plays a big role in my life. Ofcourse, I am more than just a gay person, but being gay plays a big role in my life.

It has helped shape:

My relationship with my family

My relationship with my freinds

My relationship with other men and women

My perceptions and biases towards politics, religion, culture, etc.

My taste in art, movies, images, media, etc.

My own artwork

My romantic/sexual relationships (which u know is always a big deal to any person)

My feelings about myself and other people

My empathy towards other minorities

My self image, and desire to improve my body

The way I treat other people

My educational choices

My sense of humor

My choice in choosing freinds

etc.etc.etc...i can go on and on.

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Quiero Mota, you yourself even came up with a theory that if I were straight, I'd be totally different. You even went as far as to say that if I were straight, I wouldn't have had such a critical opinion of Christianity and Islam.

Now you are going to say that being Gay has nothing to do with one's being ?

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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
What I said still stands by the way: having kids doesnt indicate a person's preference.

That is true. Gay people also have kids, that does not determine thier sexual preference.

I'm... partly straight, but that has nothing to do with the fact that I"m intolerant for Christianity. Being discrimantory is wrong regardles of sexual orientation. Any one with moral standard could tell you that...