Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Satan is the one tempting us. It's our choice wheather we give in or not.
Then why doesn't God stop Satan. That falls under the reason for our creation. In part the reason could have had something to do with us overcoming sin.
Got any hints ?
Originally posted by Imagawa666
Bigots. If being gay is a sin then waht does God killing a load of egyption count as. Gay mentallity is an evolutionary trait which some of us have. And no im not gay myself but wont allow Religious FANATICS TO CONDEM THEM.
Okay, when did I say "cursed are the gay, they gonna go to hell". I stated that according to the bible it is a sin, because that was the original question.
Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Okay, when did I say "cursed are the gay, they gonna go to hell". I stated that according to the bible it is a sin, because that was the original question.
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. [NIV Leviticus 18:22]
If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. [NIV Leviticus 20:13]
So, do you believe everything the Bible says?
Here's the rest.
There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for even both these are abominations unto the Lord thy God. [KJV Deuteronomy 23:17-18]
Because of this, God gave them over to their own shameful lusts. Even their women exchanging natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received themselves the penalty for their perversion. [Romans 1:26-27]
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. [KJV I Corinthians 9:19]
Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Prove it. And don't ask me to prove that it's right because it can't be proven either way. Don't go thinking that something's not true because its hard to believe.
Ok, there is not way the human race or can survive from a 1 matting pair.
Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Here, the bible is stating something that is morally wrong. At this point the world didnt have a population so miniscule that homo sexuality would threaten the race of mankind.
No, you got it backward. If you have a small population homosexuality can be a threat to the population. Also, you have given yourself away with a Freudian slip, homosexuality is one word, to make two words out of it is to use the turm homo, and that is only used by bigots.
Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Has anyone actually scientifically PROVEN that its natural.
Secondly, sense when is birth control natural?? Otherwise, the reason for people being like this is simple. Everyone (to the best of my knowledge) has one particular sin they struggle with more than anything else. It could be porn, it could be murder. However, you look at it, they're both sins. Homosexuality is the same way.
Populations of rates have been studied and the ratio of homosexuality rises as the population increase, this controls the population to prevent a die out caused by a food shortage.
Originally posted by PsiForce
is being a cow a sin?? 😄 just kidding
Wow! I think it should be. To let yourself get that far out of hand and become a cow, must be a sin. But then again, what if you were born a cow, and you just couldn't help but be a cow? 😆
Homosexuals are just people, like you and I. They are people who have a sexual orientation for the same sex. They are just people, some good some bad.
Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Prove it. And don't ask me to prove that it's right because it can't be proven either way. Don't go thinking that something's not true because its hard to believe.
Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Here, the bible is stating something that is morally wrong. At this point the world didnt have a population so miniscule that homo sexuality would threaten the race of mankind.
Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Has anyone actually scientifically PROVEN that its natural.
Originally posted by Pyropsycho
Satan is the one tempting us. It's our choice wheather we give in or not.
Then why doesn't God stop Satan. That falls under the reason for our creation. In part the reason could have had something to do with us overcoming sin.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, you got it backward. If you have a small population homosexuality can be a threat to the population. Also, you have given yourself away with a Freudian slip, homosexuality is one word, to make two words out of it is to use the turm homo, and that is only used by bigots.
How do I have it backwards, that.s what I just said.
It was a small population, but not THAT small. It would be a problem if homosexuality was widespread if thats what your saying.
oh and I didnt mean to put a space in between homo and sexual. I was in a rush.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Populations of rates have been studied and the ratio of homosexuality rises as the population increase, this controls the population to prevent a die out caused by a food shortage.
Ok but I'm talking about anatomy, hormones. Your body is not aware of the population around the world. That doesn't make any sense. But here's an explanation for why thats true. In the past society has began to attempt to tolerate just about everything. Therefore, more and more people become open and even bold about their feelings. And population rises all the time.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotCreation was never proved nor was it proved wrong to the best of my knowledge. Please explain.
I can prove that the Bible is factually flawed. Creationism is factually flawed.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The Bible never deplores slavery as morally wrong. The Bible treats women as second class citizens. The Bible is no more a moral authority than I am.
Please do not get offended or angry at what I'm about to say, It is merely possible:
Perhaps slavery is okay, Jesus taught to respect your slaves and vice versa. Second class is not something I see as a bad thing as much as it is a role. Women were expected to take care of the children and the home. They Bible did not necessarily teach that they are to be disrespected. In fact, Jesus respected women and wanted others to do so as well.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That homosexuality is a natural occurrence? Occurs in nature. Yes, in multiple species.
Ok, my bad there. "Natural" isn't always a good thing. I mean after all rape occurs in many many species (and so does premarital sex 😄 just kidding).
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
How do you know that the voice whispering into the ear of those "prophets" who wrote The Bible wasn't simply Satan tempting them? How do you know every single decision you make isn't Satan tempting you? Should I have cereal or toast? Better not have either - it might be Satan tempting me.
Satan must be a pretty nice guy after all then huh? tempting people to write a book about moral values and a God of infinite love. 🙂
Originally posted by debbiejo
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. [NIV Leviticus 18:22]If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. [NIV Leviticus 20:13]
So, do you believe everything the Bible says?
Jesus came along after these laws. We now are capable of asking for forgiveness no matter what the sin is. The authorities of our world do not punish that anymore either. But, it's still a sin.
The weight of scientific evidence is against the theory of the Earth being created in 7 days by an omnipotent being.
Buying and selling human lives is okay as long as you treat them well? 😬
Treating women as second class citizens is okay? 😬
Are comparing consensual sex between two homosexual adults to rape? 😬
My final point was that your Satan does this and that argument is flawed because 1) it assumes such a being exists and 2) it presumes you know what he does and what he does not do - when you cannot. If you are to follow the line that "Satan is tempting us." then you must apply that supposition to every single decision you make - no matter how trivial - or not at all.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The weight of scientific evidence is against the theory of the Earth being created in 7 days by an omnipotent being.Buying and selling human lives is okay as long as you treat them well? 😬
Treating women as second class citizens is okay? 😬
Thats up to you to make that decision for yourself. Take your mind out of what today's society wants you to think, and think about it honestly and carefully. You don't have to tell me what you think but you can if you want.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are comparing consensual sex between two homosexual adults to rape? 😬
I am not talking about that. I'm talking about bees of the opposite sex chasing eachother to the ground and ( 💃 ) whether both of them want to or just one does.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
My final point was that your Satan does this and that argument is flawed because 1) it assumes such a being exists and 2) it presumes you know what he does and what he does not do - when you cannot. If you are to follow the line that "Satan is tempting us." then you must apply that supposition to every single decision you make - no matter how trivial - or not at all.
Satan has no reason to try and convince you to make trivial decisions like go to the gas station when you are low on gas. I'm quite sure those things don't concern Satan. I don't know everything about Satan. But I do know that he and his angels (demons) tempt us to do wrong.