Originally posted by xmarksthespotDoes that factor in low pressure in the atmosphere and wind chill? as well as high pressure. . . beyond that I couldn't tell you what her temperature limits are. . though I'm not sure what that has to do with air pressure itself. . .
Coldest recorded surface atmospheric temperature on Earth is around -90 degrees Celsius - Vostok, Antarctica. Hottest surface atmospheric temperature on Earth is around +60 degrees Celsius - Death Valley, California. So attack her with anything between... she'll be fine right?
Originally posted by CreshoskThis is an aside.. the majority of this thread is asides. On the actual topic I see it either as a stalemate or a Hulk win. I don't see her doing anything that would kill him, even temporarily.
Does that factor in low pressure in the atmosphere and wind chill? as well as high pressure. . . beyond that I couldn't tell you what her temperature limits are. . though I'm not sure what that has to do with air pressure itself. . .
On the aside, I'm asking if you think her skin or tissues are actually impervious to extremes of temperature or that she simply alters vascular dilation, core temperature etc. to avoid hyper- and hypothermia.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotYeah I gotta agree with you there. I like storm and all but she doesn't have the output to take out Hulk, . . . or namor. 😖hifty:
This is an aside.. the majority of this thread is asides. On the actual topic I see it either as a stalemate or a Hulk win. I don't see her doing anything that would kill him, even temporarily.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot1) I thought we both were already at the point where we agree on the fact that Storm's only confirmed resistances are those against electricity and extreme temperature?!
Could I know the issue number of the other arctic blizzard incident?Regardless of whether the incident accurately describes the mechanism by which she has temperature resistance "Immune to weather" is hyperbole. As Xavier asks himself... does she not get wet in rain? Bruised in hail? If she's standing there and a strong gust blows at her she doesn't feel it?
2) Storm has been in blizzards (natural and those of own creation) sooo many times.
She is "STORM", man...do you really need a particular scan???!!!
3) The scan of yours does not describe a mechanism by which she has temperature resistance, but a mechanism that gives her NO TEMPERATURE RESISTANCE.
It causes no adaption to environmental temperature, but overcompensation that is even harmful to her.
Being in a blizzard, not freezing to death but burning from the inside to death IS NO resistance at all!!!
The thought BEHIND the mechanism is understandable and logical, but the way its effects are described is rather ridiculous, against former AND later described incidents and (my guess) just a plot device, a way to create drama.
Btw...She has been in environments that are as cold as blizzards without being bothered.
Do you remember the time she led the X-Men Gold Strike Force? They had to go to Magneto's orbital base one time to free their fellow team mates from Blue Strike Force. Ororo and Warren were flying on their own, far beyond the point where Archangels normal hight limits are, so above 10 km...you know how cold it gets up there? (about -65°C) They had to use breather masks, but did not wear any protecting suits.
Guess what, they had no problems at all.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotAgreed!
This is an aside.. the majority of this thread is asides. On the actual topic I see it either as a stalemate or a Hulk win. I don't see her doing anything that would kill him, even temporarily.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotDoes that REALLY matter?
On the aside, I'm asking if you think her skin or tissues are actually impervious to extremes of temperature or that she simply alters vascular dilation, core temperature etc. to avoid hyper- and hypothermia.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerFor his own sake i hope he is!!! 😉
Is Archangel now imprevious to extreme cold?
Having all the necessary physiological and anatomical adaptations (wings, body fat, hollow bones, lung capacity, enhanced air oxygen extraction...)* to fly as high as the highest flying bird, but not being able to resist the cold, would be rather...unfortunate. But i guess that's WAAAY off topic!
*(xmarksthespot, i know these are scientific facts, but they are official comic facts, not speculations, so no hypocracy from my side. 🙂 )
Ororo and Warren were flying on their own, far beyond the point where Archangels normal hight limits are, so above 10 km...you know how cold it gets up there? (about -65°C)Actually, if Archangel can fly as high has highest flying bird, 10 km wouldn't be a stretch at all. An African vulture was struck by airliner in 11 km in 1980's.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerWell, fine for him (he's Nr.4 on my hit list).
Actually, if Archangel can fly as high has highest flying bird, 10 km wouldn't be a stretch at all. An African vulture was struck by airliner in 11 km in 1980's.
The temperature thing is irrelevant in this match anyway so for the moment lets forget it.
Storms lightning under normal conditions has been shown to be able to disrupt Hulks psyche enough to transform whatever form of Hulk that was struck, into another of Banners alter egos. Whats to stop her from repeating the trick here until she gets a Hulk she can more easily handle? lol.
Also if Hulk gets rendered unconscious then he reverts to his Banner alter ego. Bearing in mind this is Storm on Kick she could sweep up the Hulk in a vortex of wind whilst reducing the amount of ambient oxygen around the Hulk. Hulk can hold his breath for hours but not when being assaulted. Storm could barrage him with lightning whilst restricting the amount of ambient oxygen. This would eventually cause the Hulk to pass out, making way for his Bruce Banner form which would get annihilated.
Please remember that normal Storms winds have proven effective on Hulk before. They threw him around like a twig and blew him miles away. They have also suspended him and left him helpless. He only escaped by throwing a rock at Storm. Considering the conditions of this thread such an escape would not be possible. On Kick Storm doesnt tire and her powers are amped.
Originally posted by GalacticStormUh. . when was this?
The temperature thing is irrelevant in this match anyway so for the moment lets forget it.Storms lightning under normal conditions has been shown to be able to disrupt Hulks psyche enough to transform whatever form of Hulk that was struck, into another of Banners alter egos. Whats to stop her from repeating the trick here until she gets a Hulk she can more easily handle? lol.
Originally posted by scotsmn
When Storm changed the form of hulk, he was under Apocalypse's mind control. She never did it when he had control of his own mind.
The second assault was jointly with Cable so they KOed him instead. However Storm on her own via a lightning bolt to the head managed to disrupt his psyche enough to allow the emergence of an another one of Banners alter egos.