Hulk Vs. Storm [Deathmatch with a catch]

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
It didn't rip him to shreds. It seperated his molecules into atoms.

The Gamma Bomb didn't turn Hulk into the Maestro. Old age, a couple nuclear wars, and a hatred for humanity did. Maestro is an insane Professor Hulk from the future.

After breaking Merged Hulk's neck, Maestro told him, "Death doesn't mean the same thing for us that it does for others. Somehow, some way, we always come back. What part of 'incredible' didn't you understand?"

It is a 616 occurence. I have the issue. It sounds like you might be a bit confused about it.

But the additional gamma radiation exposure helped in turning him into Maestro physically. Theres no evidence whatsoever that 616 Hulk could regenerate after being broken down to his component molecules.

No its an alternate reality occurrence because it wasnt our Hulk who got caught up in the second gamma explosion. It was a 616 occurrence in that Maestro came into 616 however as stated in the bio it isnt known if our hulk i sgoing to change into Maestro.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Brainwaves are biological as well. They can be measured by an electroencephalograph (EEG).

But they cant be healed with a healing factor. Theyre bioelectricity. He might be able to heal the rain matter but certainly not the waves after theyve been disrupted. Hulks heart had stopped and his brain was shut down from the assault. His bodily functions would have eventually completely ceased. He was dead. Storm revived him.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But they cant be healed with a healing factor. Theyre bioelectricity. He might be able to heal the rain matter but certainly not the waves after theyve been disrupted. Hulks heart had stopped and his brain was shut down from the assault. His bodily functions would have eventually completely ceased. He was dead. Storm revived him.

How can you be so sure that the bioelectric flow wouldn't restart once the tissue was regenerated? Hulk has been killed before.

I'd like to also note that none of Hulk's more powerful incarnations would be fazed by Storm's lightning. In his more powerful forms, Hulk walks through multi-megaton nuclear blasts.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But the additional gamma radiation exposure helped in turning him into Maestro physically. Theres no evidence whatsoever that 616 Hulk could regenerate after being broken down to his component molecules.

No its an alternate reality occurrence because it wasnt our Hulk who got caught up in the second gamma explosion. It was a 616 occurrence in that Maestro came into 616 however as stated in the bio it isnt known if our hulk i sgoing to change into Maestro.

Maestro is 616 Hulk. He's actually less powerful than Hulk's other incarnations. There's no evidence to show that he gained additional powers from the gamma radiation. All it did was make him stronger.

Gamma radiation isn't what gave the Hulk his powers anyway. It just gave the Hulk a physical form.

Actually there is evidence of his ability to regenerate organs etc. Hulk was reduced to a walking skeleton by Vector. Hulk regrenerat all of his lost sinew, skin, blood, and even his nerves. And guess what. There was still a flow of bioelectricity through his nerve endings. Whaddya know.

Originally posted by Khellendros
When your heart stops and you stop breathing, you die. you can be revived, but you were dead.

That definition is actually arguable. Another valid view states that death occurs upon the cessation of all brain activities.

However, I don't think this is the point. I'm not disputing that his heart may have been stopped, whether that means he was dead, or not.

Originally posted by Khellendros

Right. Then why do YOU think Storm jolted his chest with a pinpoint lightning bolt strike, which resulted in Banner immediately sitting up and coughing?

Like I said, I don't know. The fact that she did so, does not make the first premise so.

It's just as feasible that she believed he was dead, after Cable stated that he thought Hulk was dead.

I have seen people defibrillated. They don't tend to get up and cough, so I doubt that that is a piece of valid evidence.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Judging by that this is no contest...The only reason it is contested is the PIS incident during phase one of Onslaught. Storm cant fly hundreds of miles per hour! Hulk has leapt fast enough to reach Orbit...can u grasp the physics involved? Do u know how fast an object has to move to reach orbit without propulsion? Much faster than Storm can...in fact he would be moving faster than she could percieve so she would be getting speed blitz as much as I hate using that reason. He could also thunderclap her or just throw a rock at her. Like I explained before...Lightning has never had an effect on him before, except to his hair style. This argument is hard to debate because a win for Hulk would be so fast and easy...Hulk can rip through steel like loaf of wonderbread...his slightest touch would kill storm.

it's funny that you use the term pis, considering the only reason you call this pis is because you don't like what happened, but when invisable woman had protected herself from psionic attack and has used tp in the same issue clearly has pis written all over you don't say a thing. and yes, stor, can fly mach speeds, clearly you don't know anything about he tto say she can only reach hundreds of miles per hour. yes, i realize that hulk is fast, but if he jumps up, why would storm be in the sky? she could just stay grounded if he jumps right away as you like to have it. to speedblits her, he would eiher A)jump which he would have to telegraph through body language, or B)use running speed, which he wouldn't speed blits then. and a thunderclap pases through the air, what makes you so sure it would even work.

He can just throw something at Storm.

it would have to go through force-fields.

As I recall from that issue of Cable where he and Storm fought the Onslaught-controlled Professor-Hulk, their lightning + psi-blast whammy put him down for a moment, but he then got right back up as Savage Hulk. Not their best move.

honestly, did you read the issue? storm re-started his heart, HULK WAS DEAD.

Death is irreversable. That's why the doctor records your "time of death," not the time at which your heart stops beating and you stop breathing. Seriously. Look it up.

Originally posted by stormfront13
it's funny that you use the term pis, considering the only reason you call this pis is because you don't like what happened, but when invisable woman had protected herself from psionic attack and has used tp in the same issue clearly has pis written all over you don't say a thing. and yes, stor, can fly mach speeds, clearly you don't know anything about he tto say she can only reach hundreds of miles per hour. yes, i realize that hulk is fast, but if he jumps up, why would storm be in the sky? she could just stay grounded if he jumps right away as you like to have it. to speedblits her, he would eiher A)jump which he would have to telegraph through body language, or B)use running speed, which he wouldn't speed blits then. and a thunderclap pases through the air, what makes you so sure it would even work.

it would have to go through force-fields.

honestly, did you read the issue? storm re-started his heart, HULK WAS DEAD.

Hulk can attack with that speed too, not just run. Against Grey Hulk or Gravage Hulk, maybe even Professor Hulk, Storm has a good chance. But most of Hulk's stronger incarnations are too durable to be hurt by her lightning.

One way or another, he would have been brought back. Even if she just left him there.

Originally posted by stormfront13

honestly, did you read the issue? storm re-started his heart, HULK WAS DEAD.

It isn't stated that he is dead. Cable assumes he is dead.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hulk can attack with that speed too, not just run. Against Grey Hulk or Gravage Hulk, maybe even Professor Hulk, Storm has a good chance. But most of Hulk's stronger incarnations are too durable to be hurt by her lightning.

One way or another, he would have been brought back. Even if she just left him there.

did you see the comic scans? she killed savage hulk. it was savage hulk they were fighting.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Like I said, I don't know. The fact that she did so, does not make the first premise so.

It's just as feasible that she believed he was dead, after Cable stated that he thought Hulk was dead.

I have seen people defibrillated. They don't tend to get up and cough, so I doubt that that is a piece of valid evidence.

Originally posted by Khellendros
So, instead of believing that they saw him lying there unmoving and Cable stopped reading any thoughts or sensations from Hulk and decided he was dead you choose to believe that because the Hulk fell over, they just assumed he was dead and shocked his heart just because?

No, I just don't extrapolate facts from assumptions.

cable wasn't getting anything from him, when someone is unconsious, you can get at least something, but when they are dead, you get nothing. cable got nothing from hulk. everything points to hulk being dead.

Originally posted by stormfront13
cable wasn't getting anything from him, when someone is unconsious, you can get at least something, but when they are dead, you get nothing. cable got nothing from hulk. everything points to hulk being dead.

It seems to, certainly.

However, perhaps the 'nothing' was the lapse between control, loss of control and the reasserting of Hulk's consciousness.

I don't know- because it isn't stated. Therefore I am reluctant to treat the assumption as fact.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
It seems to, certainly.

However, perhaps the 'nothing' was the lapse between control, loss of control and the reasserting of Hulk's consciousness.

I don't know- because it isn't stated. Therefore I am reluctant to treat the assumption as fact.

no matter what, a telepath can get anything from you unl;ess you are dead, so the only logical conclusion is that the hulk was dead

Originally posted by stormfront13
no matter what, a telepath can get anything from you unl;ess you are dead, so the only logical conclusion is that the hulk was dead

You mean his brain had ceased to function?

Then he would be beyond defibrillation.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You mean his brain had ceased to function?

Then he would be beyond defibrillation.

what? well yeah his brain wasn't orking, all of the synapses were fried, but if hulk had any bit if life in him, a telepath could've picked it up, and cable couldn't get anything from him, so the opnly logical conclusion is that he was dead. yes, we all realize it wasn't stated, but it's safe to assume he was dead.

Originally posted by stormfront13
what? well yeah his brain wasn't orking, all of the synapses were fried, but if hulk had any bit if life in him, a telepath could've picked it up, and cable couldn't get anything from him, so the opnly logical conclusion is that he was dead. yes, we all realize it wasn't stated, but it's safe to assume he was dead.

Defibrillation restarts a heart, not a brain. Where's the logic in that?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Defibrillation restarts a heart, not a brain. Where's the logic in that?

i know, she reatarted his heart, not his brain

Originally posted by stormfront13
i know, she reatarted his heart, not his brain

Therein lies the problem.