Hulk Vs. Storm [Deathmatch with a catch]

VVD is saying that if Storm had only restarted his heart, Hulk would have been brain dead.

Originally posted by stormfront13
did you see the comic scans? she killed savage hulk. it was savage hulk they were fighting.

Actually I didn't. In the scan Khell showed, she dropped Grey Hulk with a lightning bolt, and that caused him to turn into Savage Hulk. In the scan, he wasn't dead.

I thought that Khellendros said that she killed Hulk with lightning in a different comic.

I know Savage Hulk is in Khellendros's scan, but are you sure that it was Savage Hulk that she killed in that issue, stormfront?

Savage Hulk being killed by a lightning bolt is a real stretch. He's taken insane amounts of punishment, even in the form of lightning. That would be a HUGE inconsistency.

However, what happens happens. If Hulk hadn't transformed, then it was Savage Hulk that she killed.

If it was, either Storm has got some hella lightining, or this is a bad showing of durability for Hulk.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I know Savage Hulk is in Khellendros's scan, but are you sure that it was Savage Hulk that she killed in that issue, stormfront?

Savage Hulk being killed by a lightning bolt is a real stretch. He's taken insane amounts of punishment, even in the form of lightning. That would be a HUGE inconsistency.

However, what happens happens. If Hulk hadn't transformed, then it was Savage Hulk that she killed.

If it was, either Storm has got some hella lightining, or this is a bad showing of durability for Hulk.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Hey, it was Savage Hulk who BlackBolt knocked out too. There isn't much, but there IS precedence for properly used electricity hurting the Hulk.

Didn't Black Bolt KO Hulk by whispering in his ear? That's the only fight I recall. They fought more than once?

Do you have scans of Storm killing Savage Hulk, or the issue number of the comic it happened in?

A quick sprint, a jump and a thunderclap in Storm's general vicinity will drop her to the floor and maybe knock her out. After that he can have his way with her. If anyone thinks she can KO savage hulk, then she can easily kill superman with half a thought. This comparison is crazy.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Didn't Black Bolt KO Hulk by whispering in his ear? That's the only fight I recall. They fought more than once?

Do you have scans of Storm killing Savage Hulk, or the issue number of the comic it happened in?

I just showed scans of Storm killing Savage Hulk a page or so back. I even gave the issue number.

You're assuming Hulk going unconscious is because of the lighting hurting his brain. Isn't it possible that it was a result of the shock of having Onslaught's control shattered? Something to think about.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Not if you destroy the part of the brain that regulates bodily functions, like healing as well as heartbeat and breathign and all that.

So, Hulk is dead. His mind, since it is slipping away, is easier to wrest from Onslaught's control. Afte Cable is succesful, Storm restarts his heart.

Banner is back in control again.

Cable says that he thinks Hulk is dead. That doesn't mean he is.

Once you're dead, your 'mind' is gone.

Storm may have jumpstarted his heart, but if his brain was dead, a lightning bolt wouldn't bring it back.

Either way, like I said, that's a crappy showing of durability on Hulk's part, or an uber feat for Storm.

A lot of crazy stuff happened in the Onslaught Saga.

Originally posted by scotsmn
You're assuming Hulk going unconscious is because of the lighting hurting his brain. Isn't it possible that it was a result of the shock of having Onslaught's control shattered? Something to think about.

Very observant. What effect did Onslaught's mind control have on the Hulk's brain?

hye gang,

sorry i don't really want to read 7 pages, but it sounds good. anyone care to sum up the stances being taken? which hulk? is the sticking point that time where hulk's heart stopped? khell and storm, are you contending storm can harm hulk with her lightning?

a curious fan wants to know!

Originally posted by leonidas
hye gang,

sorry i don't really want to read 7 pages, but it sounds good. anyone care to sum up the stances being taken? which hulk? is the sticking point that time where hulk's heart stopped? khell and storm, are you contending storm can harm hulk with her lightning?

a curious fan wants to know!

Apparently Savage Hulk was defeated by Storm's lightning when he had his mind controlled by Onslaught.

Truth is, Hulk is never very powerful when being mind controlled

Cable said "I think he's dead," at the end of the fight, so for X-Men fans, that automatically meant that Hulk was dead.

Of course, everyone's setting their own limitations on Hulk's healing factor.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But the additional gamma radiation exposure helped in turning him into Maestro physically. Theres no evidence whatsoever that 616 Hulk could regenerate after being broken down to his component molecules.

No its an alternate reality occurrence because it wasnt our Hulk who got caught up in the second gamma explosion. It was a 616 occurrence in that Maestro came into 616 however as stated in the bio it isnt known if our hulk i sgoing to change into Maestro.

Notice that Maestro said, "Death doesn't mean the same thing for us (not to be confused with 'me',) that it does for others. Somehow, some way, we (not to be confused with 'I'😉 always come back."

He's clearly explaining to his younger self that his regenerative abilities don't have a limit.

Does it say Cable psychically scanned him to see if all neural function had ceased? Or is it more Cable looked at him and said "I think he's dead." If they damaged the vagus nerve, his heart would cease. But with a healing factor at the level of Hulk's that isn't necessarily death.

that blasted x-posse . . .😄

kinda tired and don't feel much like going into it 'cept to say hulk wins. he's had 100's of showings where he has taken FAR more than that. i have the issue and will check it out maybe tomorrow. one inconsistant showing isn't enough to logically tip this in storm's favor. i mean damn, he was blasted to a friggin' skeleton by THANOS!! thanos can't put him down, but storm can . . .? 😕

If hulk died then storm REVIVED him, thats playing god. Storm cant just go around and bring people back from the dead. Im not sure what hulks status was but he couldnt have been truly dead.

Onslaught saga was a continuity mess though... and most of the last few pages have hinged on that incident.

I don't think Storm could generate the intensity of lightning that Black Bolt used to down him - even then it didn't kill him. This is a fight to the death. Storm will die before she manages to do anything to kill Hulk - even if she could do anything to kill him, which I doubt.

Originally posted by life is cruell
If hulk died then storm REVIVED him, thats playing god. Storm cant just go around and bring people back from the dead. Im not sure what hulks status was but he couldnt have been truly dead.

X-actly. You hit the nail right on the head.

Clearly, Savage Hulk wasn't dead.

Unless, of course, you believe that Storm bring the dead back to life with a bolt of lightning. If she can, she's more powerful than any of us ever dared to dream.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Notice that Maestro said, "Death doesn't mean the same thing for [b]us (not to be confused with 'me',) that it does for others. Somehow, some way, we (not to be confused with 'I'😉 always come back."

He's clearly explaining to his younger self that his regenerative abilities don't have a limit. [/B]

Yes but Hulk isnt conclusively Maestro. Youre an intelligent man you must see why thats the case. Maestro is from a possible future. The future isnt set in stone he is a possible future version of hulk not the only one possible. Even in hulks handbook it was stated that Maestro isnt conclusively our 616 hulk. Therefore unless you have evidence showing hulk pulling off similar regenerative feats then thats it for that matter.

Originally posted by scotsmn
You're assuming Hulk going unconscious is because of the lighting hurting his brain. Isn't it possible that it was a result of the shock of having Onslaught's control shattered? Something to think about.

Unlikely because that would mean that Onslaughts control being shattered also resulted in Hulks death. The stopping of his heart and the the lack of perceivable (by Cable) brainwaves.