Originally posted by wannabe
Since when has Galactus infinite power???
Why does he need to feed of such minor astronomic dirt balls like planets when his power is infinite?
Why does he admit to Phoenix that he can be exhausted while she can not?
Why does he get a slap in the face nearly every time he's in a comic?
Why does he always ran from Phoenix when he's superior even in a weak state? Who will guarantee him she will not protect his next target? He should get rid of her once and for all before he gets to weak. OH...wait a moment...his powers are infinite, so how can he get weak???Admit it...Big G was scary and mighty the first time he appeared (glorious moment...aaah, the good old times!), but since then he didn't do anything impressive on a cosmic scale except getting beaten by nearly everyone (!Exaggeration to make my point clear!).
heck Cubes have infite power 😆
but apparently Pho has her limits 🙄
Originally posted by Mr _Whirlysplat
If you were on these boards all the time you'd know what a sock is - Glactus can also eat stars 🙂 his done it before. Kang was making him eat Solar Systems 🙂
Errrrrr so what he still has finite power. After absorbing a star, or eventually a solar system in a fight his power would eventually taper off, whilst phoenix in comparison tap sinto unlimited potential. Yet another MOOT point 😂
Originally posted by kgkg
when he become one with the universe.heck Cubes have infite power 😆
but apparently Pho has her limits 🙄
KG either you havent read the posts on this thread or you havent comprehended them, or youre ignoring them and still spouting your totally unfounded opinion. Worlds like unlimited, invulnerable and so on are thrown around in comics like nobodys business only a fool would take their every application literally especially when the people these terms are applied to do not have on panel feats which support the term. You are no fool KG, dont follow this line of argument it will lead you nowhere.
For practical terms the likes of Magneto, Rachel Grey and Hulk are said to possess unlimited power. Rogue is said to be invulnerable which by its definition means she shouldnt be able to get hurt, yet she does. These characters comic appearances have shown us that these terms should not be taken literally. Same with cosmic cubes whose limits are stated to be global reality warping. Galactus whose power as we've made clear now is very finite in nature.
The Dark Phoenix saga you got your (out of context) scan from showed that Dark Phoenixes limits were self imposed. She had weeks earlier erected her psychic circuit breakers which cut her off from the bulk of her power yet her Dark Phoenix persona craved moer and more hence the gradual breakdown of the barriers. As ive shown as Jean was leaving Earth she was said to be around Galactus level. In the next scene she said by Moira to have power increasing along a geometric curve with no end in sight. She later confirms this (also in my posted scans) when she says her power is growing (note this is after she was said to rival Galactus) but at the moment it has limits. She then went on to eat a star.
Dark Phoenix wins. 🙂
im sick of galactus being just another cosmic level being. i think the idea behind him was that he is the ultimate power in the universe, but these days whenever a writer wants to sell their new idea they have someone say how "galactus pales in comparison" or something similar.
isnt galactus supposed to be the universe that existed before ours combined with galan? that would make him as powerful as eternity as full power.
when he was feeding off life force in the devourer comics, didnt someone say that they provide him no real power, as in their all taste and no substance. that would indicate that having the ability to weild power based of life would be fairly useless against galactus who cant even gain enough from it to sustain his life. but then some writer comes along and has someone saying how powerful the phoenix force is and thats it.
galactus isnt much more than a cosmic jobber these days, taking hits everywhere to show how powerful other cosmic beings are. even in deadpool when the star baby thing came along they had to add the watcher saying that its more powerful than galactus. thors godforce stops galactus but has no effect on the juggernaut? i wish theyd leave him alone for a few years and bring him back as powerful as he was supposed to be. the coolest story i saw with him was when nova was his herald and his purpose was revealed. he was the next big bang. meaning that there is enough energy in him to create a universe. making him as powerful as any other force that exists in the universe.
i know im comming off as a bit of a fanboy, i dont actually think he should be as high up as eternity, but at the very least make him worthy of being one of the 3 fundamentals not just some name to throw in the garbage whenever you want to make a character sound important.
i think phoenix could beat galactus with they way hes written. but i really really wish it wasnt so.
Originally posted by Decay
im sick of galactus being just another cosmic level being. i think the idea behind him was that he is the ultimate power in the universe, but these days whenever a writer wants to sell their new idea they have someone say how "galactus pales in comparison" or something similar.isnt galactus supposed to be the universe that existed before ours combined with galan? that would make him as powerful as eternity as full power.
when he was feeding off life force in the devourer comics, didnt someone say that they provide him no real power, as in their all taste and no substance. that would indicate that having the ability to weild power based of life would be fairly useless against galactus who cant even gain enough from it to sustain his life. but then some writer comes along and has someone saying how powerful the phoenix force is and thats it.
galactus isnt much more than a cosmic jobber these days, taking hits everywhere to show how powerful other cosmic beings are. even in deadpool when the star baby thing came along they had to add the watcher saying that its more powerful than galactus. thors godforce stops galactus but has no effect on the juggernaut? i wish theyd leave him alone for a few years and bring him back as powerful as he was supposed to be. the coolest story i saw with him was when nova was his herald and his purpose was revealed. he was the next big bang. meaning that there is enough energy in him to create a universe. making him as powerful as any other force that exists in the universe.
i know im comming off as a bit of a fanboy, i dont actually think he should be as high up as eternity, but at the very least make him worthy of being one of the 3 fundamentals not just some name to throw in the garbage whenever you want to make a character sound important.
i think phoenix could beat galactus with they way hes written. but i really really wish it wasnt so.
Galactus isnt the power of the universe that existed before ours plus Galen. He was protected from the death of the old universe by Phoenix and then she bonded him to the cosmic egg (the premature Eternity). There he was gestated for sometime until the egg hatched as it were releasing Eternity and Galactus. With Eternity (life) born the abstract Death came into being. Thats why all three are sometimes referred to as siblings.
In current continuity Phoenix controls the death/birth cycle of reality. She sparks off creation, helps evolution run its course before ending it.
Galactus and the abstracts are just the evolved humanity from the previous universe. As X-men Forever revealed, at the end of creation Phoenix helps the evolved humanity, those chosen to replace the abstracts, bond with the essence of the new universe she has in the works so that when she sparks off creation anew they are reborn as the new abstracts/Galactus.
I dont think he's written badly. I just think how he fares in a fight depends on whenever his last meal was. Remember that the only time he comes into conflict with heroes is when he is about to eat a planet and in those circumstances he is usually weak. Thats just how it is. Its inherent to the character.
ive read his origin, as far as i knew the old universe bonded to him. but yeah i do agree that hes always hungry when he comes into conflict with the 616 heros. and hes not really portrayed as someone willing to fight for a meal when he can go find another. but im just sick of him being used to put other characters over. like in deadpool. i loved the story, but some weird space thing appearing out of nowhere and being strong enough to rival galactus annoyed me. where did you see all that stuff about him and phoenix anyway? that would be worth a read.
Originally posted by Decay
ive read his origin, as far as i knew the old universe bonded to him. but yeah i do agree that hes always hungry when he comes into conflict with the 616 heros. and hes not really portrayed as someone willing to fight for a meal when he can go find another. but im just sick of him being used to put other characters over. like in deadpool. i loved the story, but some weird space thing appearing out of nowhere and being strong enough to rival galactus annoyed me. where did you see all that stuff about him and phoenix anyway? that would be worth a read.
There was a retcon recently. In fact theres been a few retcons to his origin. Youre two retcons behind it seems lol. His origin as per current continuity is what i stated previously.
Check out X-men Adventures 12, X-men Forever 1 to 6, F4 522 or you could just read the latest F4 Handbook. They explain it all in detail.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
There was a retcon recently. In fact theres been a few retcons to his origin. Youre two retcons behind it seems lol. His origin as per current continuity is what i stated previously.Check out X-men Adventures 12, X-men Forever 1 to 6, F4 522 or you could just read the latest F4 Handbook. They explain it all in detail.
not really tweaking and your "retconns" are not the same thing 🙂
read his posts and see what his saying its cool stuff 🙂
not much of a difference in the polls even with your sock accounts 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
KG either you havent read the posts on this thread or you havent comprehended them, or youre ignoring them and still spouting your totally unfounded opinion. Worlds like unlimited, invulnerable and so on are thrown around in comics like nobodys business only a fool would take their every application literally especially when the people these terms are applied to do not have on panel feats which support the term. You are no fool KG, dont follow this line of argument it will lead you nowhere.For practical terms the likes of Magneto, Rachel Grey and Hulk are said to possess unlimited power. Rogue is said to be invulnerable which by its definition means she shouldnt be able to get hurt, yet she does. These characters comic appearances have shown us that these terms should not be taken literally. Same with cosmic cubes whose limits are stated to be global reality warping. Galactus whose power as we've made clear now is very finite in nature.
The Dark Phoenix saga you got your (out of context) scan from showed that Dark Phoenixes limits were self imposed. She had weeks earlier erected her psychic circuit breakers which cut her off from the bulk of her power yet her Dark Phoenix persona craved moer and more hence the gradual breakdown of the barriers. As ive shown as Jean was leaving Earth she was said to be around Galactus level. In the next scene she said by Moira to have power increasing along a geometric curve with no end in sight. She later confirms this (also in my posted scans) when she says her power is growing (note this is after she was said to rival Galactus) but at the moment it has limits. She then went on to eat a star.
Dark Phoenix wins. 🙂
Originally posted by kgkg
am a noob i can't help it
You have a habit of ignoring the bulk content of posts/comics and only taking from them what you want you want to hear. Regardless if in context it means something completely different. Your dark phoenix scans for example which when additional scans were provided by myself didnt help you out at all, and that noob comment which wasnt even directed at you.
I have said the same thing consistently throughout this debate as i knew i was right from the beginning, yet it took the contribution of other posters who merely restated points id already brought up for you to listen and end this farce. Youre very stubborn KG, but that always makes for a fun debate. And this debate like all the others has ended with the same result. See ya around. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr _WhirlysplatYes because ad populem arguments are valid. . .people's opinionalways overrides fact. . .🙄
not really tweaking and your "retconns" are not the same thing 🙂read his posts and see what his saying its cool stuff 🙂
not much of a difference in the polls even with your sock accounts 😂