Last-Gen Console Discussions (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

They have GTA4 already lol it will be released the same date. (I don't like Gta series though)

They have new origanal games now and is coming
like Viva and Blue Dragon.

You should get Nintendo lol, I am not arguing that. Heck you should get all 3, but to say Ps3 blah blah over 360 at this state of time is really crap. You assumed on Dragon quest and stuff, when it lost it for now. Other games you listed is that they have that types on games on the 360 and most do it way better(mainly the shooters). You say oh the PS3 in the future will sell like hot cakesand developers will stay esclusive and make esclusives(lol you say this as if it was some fact or something). It also costs 600 dollars now and people are not going to buy it like candy anytime soon. FF 12 just came out, not like the enxt one coming out tomorrow.

Put it this way, we don't know the future so we both can't assume anything, we got to look at the stats now and not look at what you would like on the PS3 like DQ.

So far

Wii
360
PS3

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
They have GTA4 already lol it will be released the same date. (I don't like Gta series though)

They have new origanal games now and is coming
like Viva and Blue Dragon.

You should get Nintendo lol, I am not arguing that. Heck you should get all 3, but to say Ps3 blah blah over 360 at this state of time is really crap. You assumed on Dragon quest and stuff, when it lost it for now. Other games you listed is that they have that types on games on the 360 and most do it way better(mainly the shooters). You say oh the PS3 in the future will sell like hot cakesand developers will stay esclusive and make esclusives(lol you say this as if it was some fact or something). It also costs 600 dollars now and people are not going to buy it like candy anytime soon. FF 12 just came out, not like the enxt one coming out tomorrow.

Put it this way, we don't know the future so we both can't assume anything, we got to look at the stats now and not look at what you would like on the PS3 like DQ.

So far

Wii
360
PS3

Actually so far its

360
Wii
PS3

but I'm not talking about today. Today xbox is leading with GOW selling over 2 million. And after Halo 3 drops it will have another Huge spike but then what? The PS3's 2007 line up is larger and more impressive then the 360 and Wii. and after 2007 both the Wii and PS3 will have a strong footing and it will all come down to the games, and Sony as of right now has the majority of developers. I could be wrong just a few big hits could be all the 360 will need but it didn't work for the xbox so more than likely doing a 360 isn't going work either. I think they will need more than what they currently have, and I think they know that as well that is why they are aggressively attacking every sony exclusive trying to gain rights to them, and if they don't gain more and create more they well fall behind the Wii and PS3 in 2008

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Actually so far its

360
Wii
PS3

but I'm not talking about today. Today xbox is leading with GOW selling over 2 million. And after Halo 3 drops it will have another Huge spike but then what? The PS3's 2007 line up is larger and more impressive then the 360 and Wii. and after 2007 both the Wii and PS3 will have a strong footing and it will all come down to the games, and Sony as of right now has the majority of developers. I could be wrong just a few big hits could be all the 360 will need but it didn't work for the xbox so more than likely doing a 360 isn't going work either. I think they will need more than what they currently have, and I think they know that as well that is why they are aggressively attacking every sony exclusive trying to gain rights to them, and if they don't gain more and create more they well fall behind the Wii and PS3 in 2008

Lol I don't really care, you could like some of those crappy games, it is your taste. All systems are good anyway.

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
I had no doubts about the Wii at all, it is Sony and their "Most esclusive" when half od them are garbage games and the actually good ones are few and might come to 360 if it hasn't already.

Lol I don't really care, you could like some of those crappy games, it is your taste. All systems are good anyway.

You are correct about the all systems are good part. I like the RPG scene and sony is drowning with rpg developers/Publishers such as; SCEI, Sacnoth , Square enix, Genki, Atlus, Konami , Working Designs(atlus), Capcom, Level 5 , Namco, Nippon Ichi, Falcom, sega and a few more. Some of them will make games for Xbox But most are sticking Sony. I'm a fanboy to developers and right now sony has almost all the developers I like.

Level 5, Atlus, and Nippon Ichi always will make some of the best games of all time and they primarily develop for sony.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Actually so far its

360
Wii
PS3

but I'm not talking about today. Today xbox is leading with GOW selling over 2 million. And after Halo 3 drops it will have another Huge spike but then what? The PS3's 2007 line up is larger and more impressive then the 360 and Wii. and after 2007 both the Wii and PS3 will have a strong footing and it will all come down to the games, and Sony as of right now has the majority of developers. I could be wrong just a few big hits could be all the 360 will need but it didn't work for the xbox so more than likely doing a 360 isn't going work either. I think they will need more than what they currently have, and I think they know that as well that is why they are aggressively attacking every sony exclusive trying to gain rights to them, and if they don't gain more and create more they well fall behind the Wii and PS3 in 2008

if 360 falls behind in 2008, thats only one year, didnt you know their next console = 2009?

i'm positive microsoft could last 1 year without people buying the console concidering bill gates was the richest guy before the xbox even came out.

Originally posted by K73SK
*looks at ps3 game lineups* what's interesting? 🤨

if 360 falls behind in 2008, thats only one year, didnt you know their next console = 2009?

i'm positive microsoft could last 1 year without people buying the console concidering bill gates was the richest guy before the xbox even came out.

I'm not saying they will go bankrupt just saying they will fall behind PS3 and Wii in sales due to lack of games.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
I'm not saying they will go bankrupt just saying they will fall behind PS3 and Wii in sales due to lack of games.

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
yeah, lack of games. The Ps3 has billions of them now and coming soon that are only PS3 and that are actually good 😆

Originally posted by dirkdirden
I'm not saying they will go bankrupt just saying they will fall behind PS3 and Wii in sales due to lack of games.

Originally posted by K73SK
lack of 360 games? 🤨 🤨

The only 2 games to get perfect scores are GOW and Oblivion. Only 2 great games in a years time not very good. PS3 and Wii will both have at least 5 perfect scoreing games by end of 2007.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
The only 2 games to get perfect scores are GOW and Oblivion. Only 2 great games in a years time not very good. PS3 and Wii will both have at least 5 perfect scoreing games by end of 2007.

So what, a game is only great if it gets a perfect score?

Umm, no. Not quite.

And somehow I doubt the others will make your claim, for that matter.

Many of the big PS3 games will also be available on the 360, and no one in their right mind would pay $600 for a system when they can pay $400.

The PS3 has faltered majorly in it's launch. Barely a month it's been out and already it seems most people have lost interest in trying to get it, ebay auctions have dropped to being barely over the retail price, etc.

The PS3 might have some good exclusive games coming out, but I can say with certainty that it has nothing that will push as many systems as Halo will, end of next year. The PS3 might eventually catch up but it will be hardpressed to catch up to the 360, and with Halo 3 coming out next holiday season, as well as end of next year being a logical time for the 360 to have a pricedrop, I don't see it happening.

Perfect scores according to who?

360 has a lot of great games: GRAW, PGR3, RB6:Vegas have all gotten very strong reviews.

Lack of games, wow. Since when do games have to have a great review in order for them to sell. The vast majority of buyers dont even look at the reviews before buying a game only those who are hardcore gamers.

You keep saying PS3 is betting 360 yet they sold out because of low supply. I honestly cant wait to see when they have the shelves full of PS3s then we will see who is on top. Put it this way, if the PS3 was in stock for this holiday season then they would have a legit chance of competing. If Wii or PS3 or 360 dont sell this holiday season then they wont sell until next holiday season or when a must have exclusive comes out and even then it will still be a low console sale. Dont be surprised if there is still no PS3 shipments in 2007 because thats how it will remain. When it goes on sale in Europe there will still be low supplies too.

Some games to point out that are good:

Splinter Cell, GoW, Oblivion, PGR3, GRAW, RB6V, NFS and more.

You love PS3 so much it doesnt even make sense as to why you would buy a 360 if you consider almost every game out for it right now to be bad.

Originally posted by El_NINO
Lack of games, wow. Since when do games have to have a great review in order for them to sell. The vast majority of buyers dont even look at the reviews before buying a game only those who are hardcore gamers.

You keep saying PS3 is betting 360 yet they sold out because of low supply. I honestly cant wait to see when they have the shelves full of PS3s then we will see who is on top. Put it this way, if the PS3 was in stock for this holiday season then they would have a legit chance of competing. If Wii or PS3 or 360 dont sell this holiday season then they wont sell until next holiday season or when a must have exclusive comes out and even then it will still be a low console sale. Dont be surprised if there is still no PS3 shipments in 2007 because thats how it will remain. When it goes on sale in Europe there will still be low supplies too.

Some games to point out that are good:

Splinter Cell, GoW, Oblivion, PGR3, GRAW, RB6V, NFS and more.

You love PS3 so much it doesnt even make sense as to why you would buy a 360 if you consider almost every game out for it right now to be bad.

Thanks for not reading anything I said. I'll summarize what you failed to read since quoting my own post is pointless because you wouldn't read it the second time around either.

the PS3 sucks as a system but they have most of the developers working for them, and they have all the developers I like. What ever system the developers choose is the same system I have to choose. If the developers move to Xbox I move to xbox if the developer move PC I move pc and right now the developers are sitting at sony so I am sitting at sony.

The PS3 isn't beating the 360 it’s far behind as I said before.

The PS3 has a more promising future line up due to the fact that the console has so many developers that develop in every game genre not just FPS and action. There is no argument that Sony has way more developers than MS that is just common knowledge. The ps2 didn't beat the xbox due to better console but due to better games. The only reason the game cube failed is becuase it lacked development. The only reason the PS3 will pull ahead of the xbox is becuase they have twice as many developers.

I have a box due to the fact my brother had a baby and needed money so I bought it off him for 300 bucks with 2 games. I wouldn’t have bought one otherwise. Splinter Cell, Oblivion are far better on PC. GOW is a solid game but it will be coming out on PC as well. Maybe I would enjoy my xbox more if they didn’t release a better version of every game they have on PC. Seriously play oblivion on pc and you’ll never go back to the xbox. Almost none of the PS3 games will be coming to pc because they are true exclusives.

Development is key and right now the key is in sony's hands. Xbox is trying to gain more development(blue dragon, GTA, and MGS4) and are doing a good job of it but right now sony still has the ball.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
The only 2 games to get perfect scores are GOW and Oblivion. Only 2 great games in a years time not very good. PS3 and Wii will both have at least 5 perfect scoreing games by end of 2007.

call of duty 2, ghost recon advance warfighter, splinter cell double agent got great scores.

really, touting 'perfect scores' proves nothing. how about fun games to play? you know...thinking for yourself, formulating your own opinion. in which case i would add chromehounds and over g fighters

Originally posted by PVS
call of duty 2, ghost recon advance warfighter, splinter cell double agent got great scores.

really, touting 'perfect scores' proves nothing. how about fun games to play? you know...thinking for yourself, formulating your own opinion. in which case i would add chromehounds and over g fighters

Everything I have said as been nothing but an opinion, even the 2 perfect scoreing games were only perfect scoreing based on my opinion. I thought IMO wasn't needed anymore becuase who's opinion could I have if not my own.

Let me reply to you and show you how that I love to reply without reading.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Thanks for not reading anything I said. I'll summarize what you failed to read since quoting my own post is pointless because you wouldn't read it the second time around either.

Ya I read what you posed, doesnt mean I have to agree with you however which is why your panties are up in a bunch. Did you also read what Ricodrayz posted earlier which was you making up titles from the list you posted or did you have a siezure and forget.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
the PS3 sucks as a system but they have most of the developers working for them, and they have all the developers I like. What ever system the developers choose is the same system I have to choose. If the developers move to Xbox I move to xbox if the developer move PC I move pc and right now the developers are sitting at sony so I am sitting at sony.

The PS3 isn't beating the 360 it’s far behind as I said before.

You keep contradicting yourself, first you say the PS3 will beat 360 because of all of this bling bling hardware, then you say because of its developers. You dont even know why your defending the PieceofcrapSystem 3 anymore.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
The PS3 has a more promising future line up due to the fact that the console has so many developers that develop in every game genre not just FPS and action. There is no argument that Sony has way more developers than MS that is just common knowledge. The ps2 didn't beat the xbox due to better console but due to better games. The only reason the game cube failed is becuase it lacked development. The only reason the PS3 will pull ahead of the xbox is becuase they have twice as many developers.

There you go again spewing garabage out of your @ss. At least you have the common sense to realize PS3 is losing horribly right now. Hey in the future PS3 will cure cancer too. Face it they still have plenty of problems such as some resolutions not working at all, a wireless controller that somehow disconnects from the PS3 during a game, an the only update was to add new features to the Blu Ray playback but then again isnt that why people bought the PS3 to watch Blu Ray movies?

Originally posted by dirkdirden
I have a box due to the fact my brother had a baby and needed money so I bought it off him for 300 bucks with 2 games. I wouldn’t have bought one otherwise. Splinter Cell, Oblivion are far better on PC. GOW is a solid game but it will be coming out on PC as well. Maybe I would enjoy my xbox more if they didn’t release a better version of every game they have on PC. Seriously play oblivion on pc and you’ll never go back to the xbox. Almost none of the PS3 games will be coming to pc because they are true exclusives.

I cant say nothing here, when ever you need to help family out fine but this really isnt an excuse to by it off of him, you could have helped him find someone who really wanted a 360 instead of someone who didnt.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Development is key and right now the key is in sony's hands. Xbox is trying to gain more development(blue dragon, GTA, and MGS4) and are doing a good job of it but right now sony still has the ball.

I agree on you here that key titles are important but you make it seem as if PS3 will never lose exclusive titles. Assasins Creed anyone?

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Everything I have said as been nothing but an opinion, even the 2 perfect scoreing games were only perfect scoreing based on my opinion. I thought IMO wasn't needed anymore becuase who's opinion could I have if not my own.

video game reviewers, as your post clearly suggests. yes, 'imo' would be needed in such a case.

Developers follow the buyers. If a system is not selling well, developers will move to a different system. Simple as that. The PS2 rode in at the beginning on two things: 1. The success of the PS1, and 2. Its ability to play DVDs. Those two things combined meant that the PS2 moved more systems, which caught the eye of developers, who started developing for the PS2. As developers made more games, PS2 sold more systems, and as a result more developers came to the PS2. The situation snowballed, giving PS2 a near-monopoly on good games, which launched it into first place position.

Here, it's a little different. Developers joined on PS3 right away, because everything worked so well with PS2. But then they discovered that the PS3's stuffed-in tech is hard to program for, much harder than the 360, which has been shown to have comparable power. Same quality game plus easier to develop for? Which do you think developers will want to pick?

Let's not forget the Wii. Tons of developers are greatly intrigued by it, and are practically exploding with new ideas about what they can do with games, same way it happened with the DS. So the Wii's developer-gathering formula is fun plus ease of developing, because the hardware is very similar to the gamecube hardware, which was extremely easy to develop for even at its birth.

Why are there so many developers signed on for PS3 still? Because Sony had them sign contracts legally binding them to develop so-and-so exclusively for the PS3. Such titles may be exclusive at first, but just like Namco and Capcom with Tales of Symphonia and Resident Evil 4 respectively, as soon as those contracts are up you can bet there will be quite a few ports to the 360.

Originally posted by El_NINO

You keep contradicting yourself, first you say the PS3 will beat 360 because of all of this bling bling hardware, then you say because of its developers. You dont even know why your defending the PieceofcrapSystem 3 anymore.

Originally posted by El_NINO

There you go again spewing garabage out of your @ss. At least you have the common sense to realize PS3 is losing horribly right now. Hey in the future PS3 will cure cancer too. Face it they still have plenty of problems such as some resolutions not working at all, a wireless controller that somehow disconnects from the PS3 during a game, an the only update was to add new features to the Blu Ray playback but then again isnt that why people bought the PS3 to watch Blu Ray movies?

Originally posted by El_NINO

I cant say nothing here, when ever you need to help family out fine but this really isnt an excuse to by it off of him, you could have helped him find someone who really wanted a 360 instead of someone who didnt.

Originally posted by El_NINO

I agree on you here that key titles are important but you make it seem as if PS3 will never lose exclusive titles. Assasins Creed anyone?