Originally posted by BackFire
Too be fair, the xbox was mean to be a learning experience for MS, and it was. They've learned from their errors, in a big way.
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You have to remember this was MS's first console. They may not have made as big a splash as Sony, but they've certainly got their foot in the door. Now with the 360 out and looking good, MS seems to have gotten the kinks worked out.
Originally posted by BackFire
Sony's success with the PSX can also be partly attributed to Nintendo's refusal to use CD's and stay with the inferior cartridge based games. Which directly caused them to lose FF7 and some other games.
Sure, but Nintendo made the intentional decision to choose cartridges, and Sony went for CD's; it's obvious now who was right in their choice, but Sony couldn't have been sure that Cd's would stick for video game purposes. For all they knew, they could have been way ahead of their time.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Not to the massive degree that Microsoft did. This wasn't a steady price drop. It was a massive decrease. Gates even said it himself, though I honestly can't remember where I saw the vid interview now.-AC
Massive? Prolly...but it was a competitive drop...
Xbox:
11/15/2001 (lauch date) $299.99
5/15/2002 $199.99
5/14/2003 $179.99
PS2:
10/26/2000 (launch date) $299.99
5/14/2002 $222.99
5/14/2003 199.99
Originally posted by Zen2ndyeah i just realized the website i went to made an error in the link or something i guess. I went to IGN, and watched a trailer on Assassins creed and realized it's the exact same.So I looked for a trailer on MGS4 and saw the newest one. I believe those are game graphics....looks same as some other games I've seen. Watch assassins creed and you'll see what I was arguing about lol.
Nope this one was from November. Same graphics though.
There was no reason to think that CD's wouldn't stick.
They were cheap to make, and easier to design for which caused many third party supporters to actively support the PS. This is why MGS and FFVII both came out for the PSX rather than the N64.
They also held more information.
The only thing cartridge based games had over CD's is lack of load times.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Massive? Prolly...but it was a competitive drop...Xbox:
11/15/2001 (lauch date) $299.99
5/15/2002 $199.99
5/14/2003 $179.99PS2:
10/26/2000 (launch date) $299.99
5/14/2002 $222.99
5/14/2003 199.99
Not here it wasn't.
As I said. I didn't get my Xbox with anything major. Just a game and extra controller and it cost me £400 or around that. So to see it months later for £250 with 4 games was quite a massive drop. Not too competitive, unless you mean in an attempt to shift numbers. Which I never denied.
-AC
so you got screwed over by microsofts marketing decision, ended up paying too much, and thus will forever be bitter toward them. well if thats the case i think you're absolutely justified. however that is a reflection on their marketing strategies which have always been....well....retarded.
but that does not reflect on the system, which (eventually) delivered on every promise in every aspect of gameplay.