Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Please read the entire post and the context in which I said it. I knew people would have problems.-AC
I was going off the "If they were on the PS2, a system we've established isn't as good graphically, it wouldn't have been as good," which is what I disagreed with.
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Man E3 2006 was awesome. I can't wait to play the Nintendo Wii. I tell you what the Wii has awesome games like Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy, and of course Super Smash Bros Brawl. My Gamecube will go unloved once the Wii comes out.
^^ could not have said it better my self and i personaly cannot wait to play such games like red steel so i can see first hand about how the nintendo Wii's controls work with functionality with the motion sensor...apparently its very solid...me likeie
Originally posted by ESB - 1138
Man E3 2006 was awesome. I can't wait to play the Nintendo Wii. I tell you what the Wii has awesome games like Twilight Princess, Super Mario Galaxy, and of course Super Smash Bros Brawl. My Gamecube will go unloved once the Wii comes out.
Not to mention your GC discs and controls will work with the Wii. 😛 Sell the system, keep the games.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, and then read the rest.-AC
I have. I fail to see what else you said that might be relevant to the sentence I pointed out.
I'll assume you mean when you said it isn't the "be all end all," and I realize that. I was pointing out the fact that you did say "If they were on the PS2, a system we've established isn't as good graphically, it wouldn't have been as good."
You're saying it wouldn't have been as good if it were on the PS2, are you not?
Originally posted by H. S. 6
One thing I'm disappointed about: When you use a sword, it doesn't mimic your exact moves. Instead, you perform different moves in the game based on pre-existing scripts for your movement with the remote. 😬(Does that make sense at all?)
Damnbanana5 I thought it would be free form attacking. Ah well, the NPC animations are incredible, I wasnt sure whether it was prerendered or not, but its actual gameplay.shock
Originally posted by Mišt
Red Steel on Wii looks awesome, I'd buy the console for that game. Most other games I've seen trailers for look like you have to be on crack to play😑 The Japanese people are jumping all over the place swinging their arms, no way Im playing a Wii if I have to do that.
I like it and how they look playing it.
is it comprehensible.....
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yes, and what exactly is your point? Do you have one?With what? There's nothing to disagree with. A company hiring another company as opposed to creating one out of its own employees are two totally different things. There's no "I disagree" about it.
The handling hasn't been around since the original, certainly not to the pivotal degree that it's in Double Dash. There are different karts, for one. It's not all the same karts, so they have different handling, and how you choose your team depends on how effective everything is. Speed and such. How easily you're knocked off the track.
Secondly, it's been around for years in racing games, so what? Do you actually have the ability to stay on point? I said that it's hard to progress further in what is essentially a racing game, but the three main versions of Mario Kart that have been out have all been different enough.
No, it was clear enough because I spelled it out and you tried to claim there's one kind of "stupid". You just lack the interpretation skills. That's how it is.
Yes, that's what I just said isn't it? Jesus, it's like debating an echo.
The graphics help the feel of the game, in RE's case. They're not the be all and end all. If they were on the PS2, a system we've established isn't as good graphically, it wouldn't have been as good. If the Cube had done RE before the original Playstation, it would have gone over a lot better than it did for being a remake. The main reason that the original RE wasn't as fearsome as it could have been was because the graphics, though good for their day, were a relative mess.
The remake is ten times as imposing. Why? Ask yourself that question.1. Yes, people buy bad games because they dont know better. Because they dont know better, they think the amount of games for an system
-AC
2. So Nintendo hiring Silicon Knights is different then? Because Nintendo didnt create that company.
3. Yes it has, just in smaller scale. Donkey Kong and Toad handled completly different in the original. Though, I still dont agree that Mario Kart has been changed enough to not be called a rehash.
4. So when I say, Bill Gates isnt stupid, and you say he is, how the **** am I suppose to interpret that as you saying Bill Gates ego is stupid?
5. "If the Cube had done RE before the original Playstation, it would have gone over a lot better than it did for being a remake".
That's ****ing obvious.
6. Oh, so we came to the conclusion that the PS2 is the least powerful. But why did you say this, "When Sony decided they wanted it, they had to dull it down dramatically, it couldn't cope. Xbox and PS2 may be more powerful than the Cube overall, but graphically neither of them are up to scratch"
Then say, "The graphics help the feel of the game, in RE's case. They're not the be all and end all. If they were on the PS2, a system we've established isn't as good graphically"
Is it really necessary to insult people during an debate or an arguement?
Originally posted by Smasandian
1.My point is that people who dont anything about games, but shitty games, and those people would think that the PS2 would be a better system for the bigger amount of games available.
Yes, I know that. Said that five or more times now. Here we are, multiple replies in, and you're still saying it. So what exactly are you pointing that out for? What is the ultimate culmination of you continually pressing that point? Please, go on.
Originally posted by Smasandian
2. So Nintendo hiring Silicon Knights is different then? Because Nintendo didnt create that company.
They had a hand in the funding that created it. It was in an issue of Nintendo magazine when they reviewed Eternal Darkness and tipped S.K as one of the best games companies.
Originally posted by Smasandian
3. Yes it has, just in smaller scale. Donkey Kong and Toad handled completly different in the original. Though, I still dont agree that Mario Kart has been changed enough to not be called a rehash.
That's because you believe "Same title, same game." Everything will be a rehash if that's how you think.
I find it disgusting that Mario Kart gets pulled for being a "rehash", yet nobody says f*ck all about Gran Turismo approaching it's 6th release.
Originally posted by Smasandian
4. So when I say, Bill Gates isnt stupid, and you say he is, how the **** am I suppose to interpret that as you saying Bill Gates ego is stupid?
I see you have a lot of trouble, so I'll make it very simple for you.
YOU: He's not stupid (say with me, here's the crucial part) enough to keep making expensive consoles.
Me: Yes he is.
What part of that are you having trouble with? I can't see any reason why you should be. This far in.
Originally posted by Smasandian
6. Oh, so we came to the conclusion that the PS2 is the least powerful. But why did you say this, "When Sony decided they wanted it, they had to dull it down dramatically, it couldn't cope. Xbox and PS2 may be more powerful than the Cube overall, but graphically neither of them are up to scratch"
Then say, "The graphics help the feel of the game, in RE's case. They're not the be all and end all. If they were on the PS2, a system we've established isn't as good graphically"
What do you mean why did I say it? A) Because neither of them are graphically on par with the Cube, in my opinion. B) I was speaking specifically about the type of game that RE is. It relies partially on it's graphics to instill that fear, that element of darkness. If it was cell-shaded, or made up of 16-bit graphics, how scary would it be? Not very.
Which is why I said that RE 4 being on a lesser capable console would have taken the edge off this particular game, because it's a significant difference. Just like playing RE on PS1 is a significant difference to the remake. Same game more or less, same controls and actions. The only real thing different aesthetically is the graphics. Proving that in a game like RE, the graphics aren't JUST superficial, they play a part.
I can go back to MGS on the PS1 and not be bothered by the graphics, I think they are perfect for it. I can't do the same with RE, due to the type of game it is.
Originally posted by Smasandian
Is it really necessary to insult people during an debate or an arguement?
What? The echo thing? There's a solution to that: Don't repeat the point 10 times after I've asked you 10 times what the point of your point is.
See?
-AC
I find it disgusting that Mario Kart gets pulled for being a "rehash", yet nobody says f*ck all about Gran Turismo approaching it's 6th release.
I did. I called it Gran Turismo 4 in High Definition. But, Gran Turismo games are great, no need to change something that works as well as it could. Hence why some games seem redundant to those who don't like them, if it aint broke, don't fix it, unless the game makers can come up with something that will drastically improve the gameplay while not alienating existing fans who enjoy the previous games. Hence why games like Mario Kart and Gran Turismo don't ever see big changes, because they aren't necessary.
Originally posted by BackFire
I did. I called it Gran Turismo 4 in High Definition. But, Gran Turismo games are great, no need to change something that works as well as it could. Hence why some games seem redundant to those who don't like them, if it aint broke, don't fix it, unless the game makers can come up with something that will drastically improve the gameplay while not alienating existing fans who enjoy the previous games. Hence why games like Mario Kart and Gran Turismo don't ever see big changes, because they aren't necessary.
I personally (yes, I know personally) never saw any fun at all in sitting there driving a car around a track. Infact, the most boring thing they could do was make it MORE realistic.
If anything, make it more unrealistic, it'll be more fun that way.
I have a problem with that "If it ain't broke..." adage. If you've got a good formula, make one to the best of your ability, then make another one when you actually have better things to add. Don't make one for every slight graphic update. One Gran Turismo per system, I can understand maybe. We're talking 5 releases over two consoles.
"We can add drivers! Let's make a whole new game for it!" "No! Let's release a new game but it's not new, it just has 3 new test tracks." Why not just add them anyway? If you have the ability to make it, don't skimp and then release it later, that's stupid.
-AC