Originally posted by General Kaliero
Not so. The original Core version featured a wired controller and composite SD-output cables, and lacked a headset and ethernet cable. The current Arcade SKU is the same, but with a wireless controller and HDMI capability. As well, the 250 GB Elite comes with an extra controller. And that is, of course, not counting bundled games.
true that
... but in Sony's case it almost always been about HDD (the notable exception being BC)... and the DS3... and the redesign... fewer things compare to what the 360 differs in. quite more troublesome for some consumers, I'd say 😉
I think the number is something like 54% defective, if I remember correctly.
However, if I remember correctly that's not the actual number of systems that have broken down, but rather systems that have that potential. And it's an overall number, and doesn't really take into account that nowadays it's a very small number that do break down.
Also, the fact that your friend works at Gamestop is fairly irrelevant as that's just info that he got off the internet. It's not anything that they would have sent out or told us about there - they rather make a point to not bring up stuff like that.
(I just remember the joke at my store being that the reason Sony sold so many PS2s was because everyone had to buy two, because they're such fragile systems)
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
The percentage is actually higher than that, if you take into consideration the faulty 360's that are sold outside the US.
Well not really because you'd be taking into account the numbers of ones sold outside the US that don't break down too. It may even be the case that less breakdown outside of the US for whatever reason.
(I just remember the joke at my store being that the reason Sony sold so many PS2s was because everyone had to buy two, because they're such fragile systems)
This does bring up a point though. I got my PS2 on launch night and to this day it still breaks...I'm on my 3rd 360 due to breakages. I also know people who were the opposite...Luck of the draw I suppose.
I do think the failure rates on modern consoles are ridiculous though. I still have old Ataris, Spectrums, Commodores, Master systems etc that work perfectly fine and are, in some cases, 20-30 years old (granted modern consoles are far more technical and packed full of components to go wrong, but still...)
Originally posted by Quincy
54% of Xbox 360s have the potential to break down?wtf does that mean?
...it means exactly what it says. That number of systems have the faulty hardware that cause them to break down.
Doesn't really require graduate-level reading comprehension to figure that out.
This does bring up a point though. I got my PS2 on launch night and to this day it still breaks...I'm on my 3rd 360 due to breakages. I also know people who were the opposite...Luck of the draw I suppose.I do think the failure rates on modern consoles are ridiculous though. I still have old Ataris, Spectrums, Commodores, Master systems etc that work perfectly fine and are, in some cases, 20-30 years old (granted modern consoles are far more technical and packed full of components to go wrong, but still...)
We've gone through...4 PS2s now? I've replaced my 360 once (it started acting weird, red-ringed once, and I decided I wasn't going to wait for it to give out entirely and replaced it). One of my friends has gone through over 10 PSPs because they're just so ridiculously fragile.
And yet I still have my old 20 year old NES that works, well, as perfect as an NES has ever worked 😛
I do think a lot of it is simply how high-tech everything is. Technology in general is buggy and prone random issues, which is why nothing will ever be 100% perfect.
Originally posted by Peach
One of my friends has gone through over 10 PSPs because they're just so ridiculously fragile.
Your friend must be quite the destroyer. I've had a PSP for over a year now, and I play it as much if not more than my 360/PS3 combined. I even let my nephews/nieces play with it(they're in love with it since I hacked it and I got lots of games for it) twice as much as I do and the PSP is still ok. My youngest nephew is 5 while the other 4 that use it range from 10-13 ( not counting the older bred since well...they're older) Could be that they're trying not to **** it up because they know there will be hell to pay, but they're still children, and the youngest kids got PSPs of their own and they're fine.
Originally posted by Peach
...it means exactly what it says. That number of systems have the faulty hardware that cause them to break down.Doesn't really require graduate-level reading comprehension to figure that out.
We've gone through...4 PS2s now? I've replaced my 360 once (it started acting weird, red-ringed once, and I decided I wasn't going to wait for it to give out entirely and replaced it). One of my friends has gone through over 10 PSPs because they're just so ridiculously fragile.
And yet I still have my old 20 year old NES that works, well, as perfect as an NES has ever worked 😛
I do think a lot of it is simply how high-tech everything is. Technology in general is buggy and prone random issues, which is why nothing will ever be 100% perfect.
As for high tech comment, the reason why LCD's cost so much was not because of the product it used to build or the amount of time but the amount of LCD screens that didn't pass QAC. I don't know remember the number but it was over 50 percent easily.
my PS1 almost bit the dust before I got a PS2, I just never bother to fix it, still alive...kinda
my PS2 has only had one problem with the drive, didn't die. Only had to paid 30 bucks to fix it. still alive an kicking for almost 8 years now (though the disc plate gets stuck and I have to pull it to open).
Atari 2600 (my cousin's), NES still alive. dunno about SNES or N64 cuz I sold them.
My brother's PSP has fallen twice (once out of moving vehicle and down to the pavement) and still works like a charm, though it's bit crack on a side. My cousins slim PS2 fell down and the case broke in half, still working, he just tried to glue the plastic together.
My PS3 is a launch 60gb. my 360 I bought Dec last year. both ok, and knocking on wood.
you could say is luck of the draw, but also how you take care of it.
...but with current hardware (and poorly design console as the 360's case) not enough caring will stop the unenivitable
I'm on my second Wii now 😬....
Originally posted by jaden101
I do think the failure rates on modern consoles are ridiculous though. I still have old Ataris, Spectrums, Commodores, Master systems etc that work perfectly fine and are, in some cases, 20-30 years old (granted modern consoles are far more technical and packed full of components to go wrong, but still...)
Nintendo has always been good at keeping consoles alive. I have a NES, SNES; N64, GC and Wii that there has never been any problems with (well maybe the Wii would get problems if I ever used it), and the N64 was just a monster at taking punishment. A friend of mine managed to drop his N64 down a set of stairs (with about 20 steps), and it worked like if it was still new straight after.
My 360 however (which I bought used) lasted for about a year and a half before RRODing, but I got it quickly exchanged.
My Wii didn't die but had graphic problems. I got it fixed.
Funny story. I went into the store I bought it from, told them the problem and wanted it fixed. I had a warranty so it wasn't a big problem. The person goes, "well, it's going to be awhile maybe two months". I go, "fine". I never play the ****ing thing. Didn't even miss it.
Microsoft Planning Blu-ray Xbox 360 Add-on
Steve Ballmer dismisses built-in drive, says accessories are coming.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1037710p1.html
October 21, 2009 - It seems Microsoft hasn't given up on adding high-definition disc movie playback to the Xbox 360.In an interview with Gizmodo, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer was asked if we'll ever see a Xbox 360 with a built in Blu-ray disc drive.
"Well I don't know if we need to put Blu-ray in there—you'll be able to get Blu-ray drives as accessories," said Ballmer
"I think the future of movies is on-demand actually, as opposed to via distribution on physical media. So we're just going to keep driving forward and try to make [Xbox 360] the best overall entertainment experience, and not just gaming."
Whoops, looks like this is another case of Steve letting information slip out a little too early. Microsoft quickly tried to cover Ballmer's statement saying, "Our solution for HD quality video on an Xbox 360 is coming this fall with Zune Video and 1080p instant-on HD streaming. As far as our future plans are concerned, we're not ready to comment.
Microsoft previously supported the now extinct HD-DVD format by releasing a drive add-on in November 2006.
Ballmer earlier this year mispoke during a conference in Chicago, saying a 'new' Xbox 360 was coming next year. He would later retract his statement, telling IGN, "I confused the issue with my poorly chosen words. There is no news in my comments," said Ballmer.