It seems everyone has a problem with Clone-Wars Grevious . Luckily enough i have clips of him for those who haven't seen him. (note these clips are in the form of a music video so bear with me)
It seems everyone has a problem with Clone-Wars Grevious . Luckily enough i have clips of him for those who haven't seen him. (note these clips are in the form of a music video so bear with me)
Originally posted by Scoobless
again... i'm using the undamaged version of Grievous from the Clone Wars animated series... he showed much greater speed and agility than he did in the movie, which is set after he had been damagedhe appeared in quite a few episodes of Clone Wars, all of which showed him using speed and agility that would equal Spider-Man... and he can take more punishment too
correction he was shown in quite a few episodes of clone wars (3) showing him to use quite a bit of speed and agility... but nothing that comes close to that which spiderman has displayed....
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Originally posted by Scoobless
which it would berunning away is the smart option when faced with a barrage of lasers, Spider-Man, when he gets his spider sense knocked out by Goblin Gas, gets hit by EVERYONE... it isn't a question of speed if you don't know the attack is coming... and even when you do know... you can't dodge a laser after it's been fired... spider sense lets the user know when and where to move to avoid/block an attack
wolverine dodges lazer fire... spiderman 2099 was shown to dodge lazer fire (a spider-senseless spider man) again... those initial blasts were able to be registeres by the human eye, yet grevious had to book ass.. I gave a plethora of HUMAN examples of people who've dodged much faster incoming projectiles than that... they do it with expirience, skill, speed, and agility... grevious must have lacked in one or more of those areas...
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Originally posted by Scoobless
most of that sounds completely ludicrous and utterly beside the point... with no reason to stay there and see if he's lucky enough to avoid a fatal laser blast, why would a smart tactician hang around? the point here is that Scarlet Spider + Spider-Man have done way more than that, and more frequently... now that Grievous's abilities include their abilities, there's no reason that he couldn't avoid anything you throw at him
It's not ludicrous (in terms of comic books), it's what happens in comics on a daily basis... it's not my fault that you can't cope with that... Nor is it besides the point. They are specific examples that prove that one does not need to have a spider sense or force sense to dodge incoming fire which was the basis of that particular argument... The fact of the matter is that grevious had his chance to prove what he could do during clone wars and he only proved himself capible enough to run away from gun-fire... He however NEVER proved himself as agile as spiderman, or as skilled as the human characters I previously mentioned. Yes spiderman and scarlet spider HAVE done way more than that.. because they have nimble bodies... THE POINT WAS Grevious IS NOT as agile as spiderman or scarlet spider have ever been. Their feats of agility and acrobatics, or the nimble use of their bodies while their spider sense is going off has put anything grevious has done to shame... Even still, venom gets hits on spiderman WITH a spider sense.. He also hits spiderman with thrown projectiles... If grevious has less agility with more mass...well......
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Originally posted by Scoobless
if it were a case of any single one of those abilities you may have a point... but when he has them all? with running, jumping, climbing, hand/foot switching, fighting, martial arts training and near perfect balance..... what exactly is he lacking in the agility department?
I've already pointed out what he's lacking in the agility department 😕 haven't you been following along?... the ability to be nimble, and the ability of contortionism (like spiderman's). He's at a serious disadvantage in those cases... It doesn't bode well for his character.
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Originally posted by Scoobless
AFTER a good few moments... enough for Scarlet to sit around and wonder about what to do next..... now that i have the experience of that fight i can wait until an opportunity comes up where i'm at such a range where you are an unmissable targetthe minute or so that it takes you to break free is far more time than i'll need to finish you
again.. what makes you think you'll be hitting me with a plethora of impact webbing much less one? even so... I've already layed dwn the reasonable argument that my character is much stronger than venom... your webbing didn' get stronger however. It didn't become an amalgamated version of itself... You pathetic webbing simply won't work on me... and that's if I LET YOU COVER ME with the stuff which is basically what venom did, him being so cocky and such... doesn't change the fact that he got out pretty quickly then, and I'd get out even faster now...
Also it's funny how you neglected the fact that, venom trying to rip out of the webbing, using brute strength alone, was CIS on his part... You don't have that particular advantage against me. I'll be using a combination of brute strength, adamantium claws, and the inginuity of my symbiote of rip and shred the webbing apart as soon as it comes near me if I need to... IF I need to, not when.
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Originally posted by Scoobless
and they do... but i'm not really playing them up in this fight too much because of the healing factors.... though if your symbiote leaves you uncovered for a moment they will still slow you down for a few seconds at a time
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Originally posted by Scoobless
yes, it's alien tech that was only ever pierced by an extremely strong, needle point weapon.... because anything with a greater surface area can't get throughdon't worry though.... your sword will be wrecked by my lightsabres before you ever get the chance to test that
A katana blade backed by 25 tons of strength, and the swordsman's skill is going to put my sword through your head, body, and arms like a straw through a lightpole in a hurricane... lol... I'm seriously still not convinced... If the peircing efficiency of a dart can get through, I certainly can...
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Originally posted by Scoobless
claws are like bullets, the surface area is too large.... this isn't a one-piece armour, it's futuristic alien fibre weave that's stopped everything larger than a needle... Stargate tech includes metal that is near adamantium... it's not a question of the strength of the material being used, it's the surface area... so while the extreme tips of your claws may get through, it'll only be enough to scratch the surface of the outermost part of my cyborg body
so you're seriously arguing that you're more durable than hulk?............... 🤨
😂
that's barely worth responding to.... yes I'm getting through with my claws like a hot knife through butter, and no your armor won't do a damned thing about it, end of story....
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Originally posted by Scooblesstime
and a spider sense takes away the aspect of patterns.... as it reacts to everything you're doing i don't need to move in patterns... or even watch yours.... i'll simply know which direction the attacks will be coming from... and with four sabers i can easily block and attack at the same
you'll be moving in patterns to avoid a blow, you'll move in patterns to connect with one.. If that wasn't the case, as your trying to make it out to be, TM wouldn't have given spiderman such a difficult time when they initially threw down, but he did... stop overglorifying yourself into being something your not... 🙄 Even with four lightsabers, you're going to have a hell of a time dealing with TBK AND 100+ tendrils up close... if it ever came to that...
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Originally posted by Scoobless
or you could just look for the glowing lightsaber... i'm not hiding... ... but watch out for all those fires i lit.... they could get you in trouble
first off, I'm no where near suseptible to flame as Venom used to be, second off, sabretooth's healing factor, makes that even moreso, and third, you didn't light any damned fires with your blasters. They don't do that.... 😕
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Originally posted by Scoobless
it's dusk, not pitch black... and all the lights from the rides are on.... plus I lit a whole bunch of fires
it's dark, I killed off all the lights forcing you into being reliant on your spider sense, and you didn't set any fires.... explain to me how you did... I've never seen those blasts or sabers light ANYTHING on fire before, so please feel free to explain this one.
Originally posted by Scoobless
lol.... that's just for TV ... you think kids would think lasers were cool if they couldn't see the blasts travelling?
well the character you're using is a TV character.. you're limited to his feats... sorry if you don't like it... 🙄
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Originally posted by Scoobless
a single bullet on a single occasion... and only when he had full view of the gun and hand that were firing at him... he could see her clench fingers to fire... he knew that shot was coming well in advance of it being fired... lasers travel much, much, much faster than bullets
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Originally posted by Scoobless
and if he was really faster than bullets he'd have either moved out of the way or raised his shield.
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Originally posted by Scoobless
you can cover an entire 6'5 foot (or so) man with a shield that's about 1'5 feet in diameter?
Originally posted by Scoobless
see... now i just don't believe you on this
Why not, TM's displayed the ability to make a few shields in one fight, he just tosses them away as he makes them, along side that he'll make webbing, and even produces an energy "bitchslap" which he used to hit everyone in a room at once... there's no reason I couldn't make multiple energy shields....
Originally posted by Scoobless
fire has, on many, many occasions, been shown to seriously damage the symbiote.... plasma is like that... but much hotter and coming at him much faster
not in any recent one's.... why don't you believe me? I've already posted proof....
Originally posted by Scoobless
limited before the tourney started... so not quite
actually I do... even going by the rules the regular version of the healing factor coupled with the symbiotic one, would suffice with GREAT results...
If you want to go by the rule's however, there are two stated that cause you to lose this fight right out... first off, you can't "dodge everything", as the greatest percentage of you doing so is 7 out of 10.... I unleash my stick and yank technique on you, and I only need one large piece of metal or whatnot to smac you with to get you off kilter, then you get buried underneath tons and tons of the stuff....
The second rule limits the durability of your armor, making it nowhere near what you're making it out to be...
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Originally posted by Scoobless
also limited before the tourney started... and you have no way of proving that one healing factor will improve the other... in fact t it's entirely possible that they'll work against each other... like a body rejecting alien organs
actually feats dictate otherwise... the venom symbiote actually WANTED to amalgamate itself with wolerine for exactly that reason.... sorry to say scoobs but your theories on the matter, once again... simply don't work...
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Originally posted by Scoobless
total PIS. i've seen Wolverine struggle to heal from getting his stomach sliced open
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Originally posted by Scoobless
completely irrelevant... there's a tourney cap on healing factors and you know it
the same sort of cap like there is on dodging and armor durability?
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Originally posted by Scoobless
you mean you'll be trying to dodge/block... i'm not in danger of running out of ammo and not limited to a single line of fire at a time
There's no reason why I can't dodge and black a few blasts coming at me, when even sabretooth has dodged out of the way of automatic gunfire... You may not be limited to a single line of fire... but I'm certainly not limited to a single appendage to block with thanks to that handy symbiote of mine...
Originally posted by Scoobless
actually he thinks using his super speed, agility and spider sense it wont be hard to get out of the way .... Jin seems to believe that i'm just going to be standing around waiting to get stuff thrown at me
Dude... ONE plank... ONE steel girder.. Was all venom needed to smack spidey with an arial projectile... Just one... Spider Man's spider sense didnt do him any good there.. yet you seem to be under the impression that I can't hit you with a hundred? 😕 wow......that's just..... wow....
in any case... my stick and yank technique is an area effective attack.. there would be no where to run To in terms of getting out of the way... so I yet again, fail to see how your avoiding it....
Originally posted by Scoobless
"Cybernetically Enhanced Eyes: Although Grievous has his natural Kaleesh eyes instead of photoreceptors, these are enhanced, allowing him to see in the dark (+2D to search in darkness), and including macrobinocular features."
http://rpggamer.org/print.php?page=...algrievous.html"Sallow and reptilian, General Grievous's own eyes have been enhanced with cybernetic implants."
http://blogs.starwars.com/jeditee/40
interesting... though it is a small matter.. I can alter to color of my symbiote to match my surroundings like a lizard might...
Originally posted by Scoobless
they're heat based and i have the experience of Parker/Reilly ... i'm a semi-genius physicist... it wont be hard to light things on fire
it will when I'm tossing tons and tons of amusment park equiptment at you.. 😛
Originally posted by Scoobless
but he is still weakened by them... so it's all still useful
hell even before recently it wasn't uncommon for venom to fight foes in an inferno... (ie. drake... after he beat the crap out of spiderman, and the jury...)
Originally posted by Scoobless
"none of it changes the fact that at distance i have you completely out-gunned and up-close my sabers slice through every part of you that isn't adamantium... which includes your symbiote"
Originally posted by Scoobless
"I negated your night-vision advantage with my own... so no help for you there"
Originally posted by Scoobless
"you simply can't physically touch me without being in range of ALL of my weapons.... my long range weapons will blow holes in you and my close up weapons will tear strips off of you"
Originally posted by Scoobless
"with your healing factors limited to tourney specs you can't recover from having muscles sliced off before the end of the match... a laser blast through the heart or plasma blasts to the stomach area finish this quickly from a distance"
Originally posted by Scoobless
"my spider sense will let me know your general direction long before we come into line of sight of each other and my night-vision/macrobinoculars will allow me to aim perfectly from a distance before you know where i am"
enhanced senses let me know exactly where you are before you even get withing a mile of my vecinity...spider sense doesn't pinpoint direction from a distance like that.. by the time you get close enough to be in range with those blasters it will already be too late...
Originally posted by Scoobless
"by the time you know that i've spotted you, your intestines will have been vaporised and i'll still be firing "
obviously that's not the case as I've just pointed out.... not to mention my hearing puts me a split second behind spider man in terms of being alert to oncoming danger.. and that's IF my symbiote doesn't alert me to it first....
Originally posted by grey fox
What did you think of the vid Jinzin , i made it myself 😖mart: .
pretty good video... I might have picked another song though...
stabbing westword's "I won't become the thing I hate" would have kicked ass and been in total relation to the story itself...
but it was pretty cool nonetheless... good job man...
Originally posted by Scoobless
ok... before he knows where i am he can't extend tendrils in my direction, and my spider sense will still let me know what direction he's in even before he extends any tendrils:
which would be true if spiderman's spider sense worked that way on a more consistent basis... but given feats well......
again.. it's been proven that ben's spider sense doesn't work on venom anyways.. I still don't see why we're on the subject....
Originally posted by Scoobless
with this knowledge and using my night-vision + macrobinoculars (MBs) i'll spot him long before he spots me
Originally posted by Scoobless
the MBs will allow me to aim perfectly over long range in darkness (as lasers travel along perfect line of sight)... using this tactic for my first move, i'll be able to hit him with a full power blast before he knows where to look... i'll also be firing plasma blasts a split second before the laser (as it doesn't travel quite as fast as light) so they arrive at almost exactly the same time causing maximum damage.... one shot to the face and multiple shots to the stomach region
which assumes that I'm standing out in the open, where scoobs has a direct line of sight not interfered with any of the amusment park facilities, rides, buildings, etc etc, just waiting to take a hit... 🙄
Originally posted by Scoobless
all this plus grievous's foot speed is much greater than Spider-Man's.... so if something were to be hurled i'd easily be able to out-distance/sidestep it
not "something" but 100 things.. and then 100 more things.. and then 100 more things.... besides.. If my symbiotes under the ground, it simply comes up and latches to your feat... I'm assuming you read marvel vs. dc... what venom did to quicksilver and flash... same CONCEPT applies here... of course I seriously doubt you can out distance or side step an area effective attack like the one I'm using in the first place.. but that's just me...😉...
Originally posted by long pig
How far will the symbiote enhance Sabretooth's healing factor?
quite a bit.. infact it pretty much negates the effects that were assumed and implied by most people from things like plasma blasts and lightsabers.. allowing it to work just as fine as it always has with no hinderence to it whatsoever... a healing factor which has already been proven to work better than wolverine's.
Originally posted by jinzin
dude now that I think about it.. you should totally make a star wars music vidoe using that song i previously mentioned.. for anikan.. it would totally kick ass!
Slight problem , i lost my skills . One day i woke up and BAM , i couldn't make em anymore (Plus i only have a few clips) . But i shall look for the song and see if i can get some inspiration.