Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Yeah. That too.I just want to look up the issues that Flash has done all this crazy stuff in. Just to validate them. He's not consistantly portrayed as being so powerful.
His high end feats are pretty insane though... And he does have several. The "IMP" against the White Martian was one, the best was probably outracing Death (Black Flash) to the end of time, sporadic time travel by surpassing light speed. (though Barry could control his time travel...)
Applying physics to the Flash (or any super hero, really) is pretty terrible. Becuase anyone hitting at super speed should have effects more akin to a fist sized bullet than an actual punch. Comics should be REALLY REALLY bloody from the Flash. Fist's size/bullet size=/=fist speed/bullet speed... So it should really have piercing properties, as opposed to crushing ones. And if Flash ever started poking people... Seriously, he could get a metal cap for his finger and be the living machine gun.
Originally posted by superman302
or the flash could just phase threw the hulk at superspeed and cause all the hulks organs and tissue to just explode.
Why would he be able to do that? He's never done it before. 😕
That's like saying Hulk could start flying, or using superspeed. He's never done either before.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Why would he be able to do that? He's never done it before. 😕That's like saying Hulk could start flying, or using superspeed. He's never done either before.
Powers and abilities
All incarnations of the Flash can run and move their limbs at superhuman speeds, and possess superhuman reflexes. All possess an aura that prevents air friction from affecting their bodies and clothes while moving.
Barry Allen possessed several other abilities that Jay Garrick and Wally West have not always been able to duplicate. He could vibrate his molecules through solid matter, could run on thick snow clouds and could travel through time and to other dimensions with the help of a "cosmic treadmill". Most unusual was Allen's complete control of his molecules, allowing him to vibrate through solid matter and, on one occasion when transformed into a mirror, "melt" himself and reform as a human to defeat the Mirror Master.
Wally West has been shown to have a connection to the Speed Force, an extradimensional energy source, which provides his powers and gives him several other abilities. While all speedsters are powered by the force, West mainlines the power from the force itself and cannot be cut off from the source, unlike the others. Wally is believed to be the fastest of all known Flashes, and has on several occasions sped faster than light and entered and exited the speed force by his own volition. He can create his costume out of pure speed energy, and can either impart his high velocities to other people and objects already in motion or steal the velocity they possess. Jay Garrick also possesses this ability to some degree; he stole speed from Black Adam in order to defeat Johnny Sorrow, and he has threatened to steal Bart's speed on at least one occasion when he was misbehaving. [[[[ can vibrate through objects; in the past, West would cause whatever he vibrated through to explode,]]]] has recently shown this to be a controlled ability as he can pass through objects without any ensuing explosion. Although not nearly as precise as Allen when he used his cosmic treadmill, West has shown to be able to traverse time and dimensions with his own powers, much like Allen
Originally posted by superman302
Powers and abilities
All incarnations of the Flash can run and move their limbs at superhuman speeds, and possess superhuman reflexes. All possess an aura that prevents air friction from affecting their bodies and clothes while moving.Barry Allen possessed several other abilities that Jay Garrick and Wally West have not always been able to duplicate. He could vibrate his molecules through solid matter, could run on thick snow clouds and could travel through time and to other dimensions with the help of a "cosmic treadmill". Most unusual was Allen's complete control of his molecules, allowing him to vibrate through solid matter and, on one occasion when transformed into a mirror, "melt" himself and reform as a human to defeat the Mirror Master.
Wally West has been shown to have a connection to the Speed Force, an extradimensional energy source, which provides his powers and gives him several other abilities. While all speedsters are powered by the force, West mainlines the power from the force itself and cannot be cut off from the source, unlike the others. Wally is believed to be the fastest of all known Flashes, and has on several occasions sped faster than light and entered and exited the speed force by his own volition. He can create his costume out of pure speed energy, and can either impart his high velocities to other people and objects already in motion or steal the velocity they possess. Jay Garrick also possesses this ability to some degree; he stole speed from Black Adam in order to defeat Johnny Sorrow, and he has threatened to steal Bart's speed on at least one occasion when he was misbehaving. [[[[ can vibrate through objects; in the past, West would cause whatever he vibrated through to explode,]]]] has recently shown this to be a controlled ability as he can pass through objects without any ensuing explosion. Although not nearly as precise as Allen when he used his cosmic treadmill, West has shown to be able to traverse time and dimensions with his own powers, much like Allen
Where does it say he vibrates through people?
Has he ever vibrated through a villian to defeat them? Has he ever vibrated through anyone?
(I already know the answer to both of these questions.)
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Where does it say he vibrates through people?Has he ever vibrated through a villian to defeat them? Has he ever vibrated through anyone?
(I already know the answer to both of these questions.)
Flash hasnt considering he doesnt kill people considering the fact hes a hero, but reverse flash has so there if no reason that Flash couldnt considering their powers operate the same way.
Originally posted by superman302
Hulk would be able to heal from it everything would explose he would even have a head left, i mean if flash reall wanted to he kill hulk off and hulk would even have time to realize what had happened
Hulk was blasted into a cloud of atoms once. He was reduced to a skeleton by Thanos.
He healed from both. Ridiculous, right?
Hulk probably wouldn't notice anything Flash was doing. Now that may not necessarily be good for Flash either.
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Originally posted by superman302
Flash hasnt considering he doesnt kill people considering the fact hes a hero, but reverse flash has so there if no reason that Flash couldnt considering their powers operate the same way.
Yes, he's a hero. And he's never vibrated through anyone to make them explode. There's no proof that he can do it, or that he ever will.
and yet when maestro broke his neck it took forever and a day for him to heal back up............... Flash is going to win this cause hulk doesnt have a chance at hitting someone who can just keep phasing threw them at light speed and eventually after a while he will be reduced to nothing more then a puddle of flesh and bone.
Originally posted by superman302That was Professor Hulk, and he heals a lot slower than other incarnations. He's weaker, and less durable too.
and yet when maestro broke his neck it took forever and a day for him to heal back up............... Flash is going to win this cause hulk doesnt have a chance at hitting someone who can just keep phasing threw them at light speed and eventually after a while he will be reduced to nothing more then a puddle of flesh and bone.
No, Hulk doesn't have a chance of hitting him. That doesn't automatically mean that Flash wins.
Flash has never phased through anyone and made them explode. It's not fair to say that he would do it in this fight.
Originally posted by Cosmic CubeNeedless to say, worst case scenario for Flash is to stalemate, because Hulk has no way to defeat this dynamic of a character. Flash on the other hand, could put Hulk down and hold him there by taking his energy away, until he reverts... or drag him through time.. or hit him with thousands of infinite mass punches since he'd be a standing target to Flash anyways... or any number of things.
That was Professor Hulk, and he heals a lot slower than other incarnations. He's weaker, and less durable too.No, Hulk doesn't have a chance of hitting him. That doesn't automatically mean that Flash wins.
Flash has never phased through anyone and made them explode. It's not fair to say that he would do it in this fight.
Originally posted by Juntai
Needless to say, worst case scenario for Flash is to stalemate, because Hulk has no way to defeat this dynamic of a character. Flash on the other hand, could put Hulk down and hold him there by taking his energy away, until he reverts... or drag him through time.. or hit him with thousands of infinite mass punches since he'd be a standing target to Flash anyways... or any number of things.
I agree completely with the first part of your post.
The second part is a litttle... well... 'ify'
Anyway, did you come up wiht any more issues that Flash used the IMP in. Can you come up with an issue of him freezing someone with his "speed steal?"
Originally posted by Cosmic CubeThe IMP punch he uses consistantly throughout his series and even in the JLA. in fact, in the series where he LEARNS the speedforce, he defeats the enemy with an IMP punch. [Though they dont call it that, and he doesnt go into full explanation each time like he did in that comic against Zum. But it's by obvious the effect his punches have.] But no Flash doesn't call out his moves like "GO INFINITE MASS PUNCH!!!!!!!".. so it'd be unlikely to give you a specific issue you're looking for.. but if you want to SEE him do it... pick up a Flash trade.
I agree completely with the first part of your post.The second part is a litttle... well... 'ify'
Anyway, did you come up wiht any more issues that Flash used the IMP in. Can you come up with an issue of him freezing someone with his "speed steal?"
And the steal speed...Truth or Dare part 1, when he was fighting alongside Wonderwoman, and Cheeta got her superspeed powers, she tried to attack Flash, and when she touched him, he took her speed.
Originally posted by Juntai
The IMP punch he uses consistantly throughout his series and even in the JLA. in fact, in the series where he LEARNS the speedforce, he defeats the enemy with an IMP punch. [Though they dont call it that, and he doesnt go into full explanation each time like he did in that comic against Zum. But it's by obvious the effect his punches have.] But no Flash doesn't call out his moves like "GO INFINITE MASS PUNCH!!!!!!!".. so it'd be unlikely to give you a specific issue you're looking for.. but if you want to SEE him do it... pick up a Flash trade.And the steal speed...Truth or Dare part 1, when he was fighting alongside Wonderwoman, and Cheeta got her superspeed powers, she tried to attack Flash, and when she touched him, he took her speed.
I read JLA and Flash. I was wondering if you could direct me towards any particular issues that he uses the punch in. Can you?