OK feat wise, Dante has taken on enemies just as strong as Alucard, If not stronger on several occasions. His potential has bin said to rival his father’s Dark Knight Sparda. Who was the only other demon lord who can appose Mundus . In DMC 1 Dante transforms and looks vary similar to his father, and challenges Mundus in his own world were Mundus is strongest.
Mundus
Description: The Emperor of the underworld, and the ultimate enemy of the game. He was defeated 2000 years ago by the Legendary Knight Sparda, and he not too pleased about that. He seeks to rule Earth via entry through some portal that can only be accessed at Mallet Island.
In DMC 2. Dante can achive an even stronger DDT than in DMC1. All his attributes goes up, as well as that he becomes Invincible for a short period of time. Not only is Dante Stronger, he fights another powerfull demon…ARGOSAX OF CHAOS
ARGOSAX OF CHAOS
The demon who once ruled the world. Here he looks like a
synthesized embodied of the bosses you have fought : Orangguerra, Phantom, Furiataurus, Jokatgulm, Griffon (DMC1) and Nefasturris.
As a half demon who is the son of one of the most powerful Demons, he certainly has a list of feats, experience, and huge power that rivals Alucard. It would take 1 level release or even 0 Level release in order for Alucard to but up a fight. Alucard had a hard time with Alexander in his human form, I seriously doubt he would have an easy time with Dante in his max.
Strength is irrelevant. All Alucard has to do is transform and literally eat Dante.
Plus even when Dante is at full strength what do you suggest he will do?
Just remember that Alucard can punch through people without too much hassle.
Alucard had a hard time with Alexander in his human form
With that Alucard is only messing around. Plus Anderson is quite strong himself and would have the same healing abilities as Dante. Meaning Anderson could also get a sword through the chest and walk away from it easily. But Alucard and Anderson rarely fight actually. For all those times he never transforms and in one such encounter quite easily blows off both Anderson's arms.
Plus the fact that Anderson has religious power's which halters Alucard only some bit. Dante lacks any religious help.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Strength is irrelevant. All Alucard has to do is transform and literally eat Dante.Plus even when Dante is at full strength what do you suggest he will do?
Just remember that Alucard can punch through people without too much hassle.
With that Alucard is only messing around. Plus Anderson is quite strong himself and would have the same healing abilities as Dante. Meaning Anderson could also get a sword through the chest and walk away from it easily. But Alucard and Anderson rarely fight actually. For all those times he never transforms and in one such encounter quite easily blows off both Anderson's arms.
Plus the fact that Anderson has religious power's which halters Alucard only some bit. Dante lacks any religious help.
What kind of feats can Alucard really be proud of? Alucard to this point has only fought enemies weaker them him. Who was Alucard strongest opponents. Van Hellsing? (as far as I know just a simple human), Alexander Anderson (who regan properties have not bien entirely explained)
Alucard isn’t invincible, his immortality has not bien properly explained all we know is that, Alucard is Dracula, and to this point his has killed what was it (thousands, hundred thousands, Millions?). For ever enemy he kills he adds that to his personal collection of souls.
So when Alucard dies, the soul of one of his victims takes his place instead of his. But there is a draw back. That allows him die and revive depending on how many souls he has left.
On the other hand there is also the question if base level, can base level Alucard take on Dante.. If Dante goes DDT, or is carrying the Sparda sword, Alucard would not be much of match.
Dante in his would kill one Alucard after another, Until Alucard decides to get serious. That will only push Dante to get more serious as well, (Seeing as he can become stronger)
Now If Dante becomes Sparda, Alucard would have no choice but to release his Zero restrain.
Why, Dante in his Sparda form was seen destroying metors in space? Alucard better bring up his level if he wants to compete.
Given that in Zero from Alucard becomes, stronger and calls for his army, but his immortality is almost gone. As he dosnt have the bank of souls in which his revival depends on.
I don’t know why ppl are making Dante look so weak compared to Alucard.
But he has fought several Demons as strong if not stronger then Zero form Alucard.
Alucard can be killed, either by killing him hundreds of thousands of time or forcing him to go to zero form and taking its chances on beating him with his power up.
And finally In the DMC world there is a huge verity of diff demons that Dante has fought, certainly that has to count for something were in Hellsing verity of monster and enemies are limited to just a few.
Arucards best feat is killing Incognito while he was channeling the Elder God Set's power. Dante can't win simply because he does not have the means, none of his weapons meet the presquites for killing him, they're not holy, silver or blessed. Even then those type of weapons only seem to do the minimum amount of damage. Dante will get a hell of a lot of hits on Arucard but it won't matter, it never does with Arucard he just reforms. And I'm not sure where you got that soul thing from but I've never seen any evidence to suggest that. It's not mentioned in either the anime or manga as far as I'm aware. Going all out both have stopped gods however unless you can give a reasonable scenario in where Dante could stop Arucard reforming I maintain my support on Arucard.
Yeah I don't know where you came up with that soul thing at all I also agree that it isn't mentioned in the manga or the animé
Oh yeah, Alucard is able to read the mind of Dante and predict is moves. Read the manga for proof.
Van Hellsing? (as far as I know just a simple human),
What are you talking about? We are talking about Alucard based in the Hellsing animé/manga not Dracula. Even though Alucard may be Dracula we are talking about Hellsing here only, you can't be cross referencing to to other things altogether.
Alucard to this point has only fought enemies weaker them him.
Because there isn't anyone stronger than him.
Plus you haven't given any reason why Dante can actually stop Alucard from actually eating him.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Plus you haven't given any reason why Dante can actually stop Alucard from actually eating him.
Hmm let me see, inside Alucards stomach he would just endlessly get ripped apart.
Fire and lava is also pointless, Alucard just easily regenerates from that.
Almost every enemy Dante fights is stronger than him but he always beat them with relative ease.
That makes no sense. How does he beat people stronger than him?
Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
If you think Dante has this then give a reason, cause I really can't see Dante doing anything that Arucard can't reform from.
Dante in his Sparda form was seen braking Metorities getting in his way while he took flight fighting Mundos.
Dante in his Sparda form was seen braking Meteorites getting in his way while he took flight fighting Mundus.
Dante has bien able to hit/damge/kill shadow base monsters.
You do know what a meteor is?
I would imagine if Alucard wanted to destroy meteorites he could if he so felt inclined.
Dante has bien able to hit/damge/kill shadow base monsters.
So? I don't think that Alucard is going to get hurt by Dante slashing at him. Even if he does do anything Alucard will just regenerate. Plus the fact that Alucard can predict the moves that Dante is going to make simply because Alucard is a vampire.
Then also at any time Alucard can turn into bats or mist to make it nearly impossible for Dante to even hit him at all.
Then you have to think about the weapons that Alucard is packing. The 13mm Anti-Freak Combat Pistol Jackal. The tips of the bullets are covered with explosive mercury. The gun is quite powerful enough to blow the limbs off Dante.
Then also Alucard when in his true form has all the extra eyes making it impossible for Dante to escape his view. Then there is the little fact that he can muliply his limbs. Oh not forgetting the fact that he can punch through people.
Plus when he transforms to his powerful form he'll rip Dante to shreds.
Originally posted by Zen2ndPlus the fact that Anderson has religious power's which halters Alucard only some bit. Dante lacks any religious help.
Here are some of the items Dante carries.
HOLY WATER - When a Holy Water is used, the defenseless enemies around will be damaged.
UNTOUCHABLE - A yellow star. When an Untouchable is used, the character has unlimited DT Gauge and invulnerable to any attack for a limited time.
Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
If you think Dante has this then give a reason, cause I really can't see Dante doing anything that Arucard can't reform from.
UNTOUCHABLE - A yellow star. When an Untouchable is used, the character has unlimited DT Gauge and invulnerable to any attack for a limited time.
Or
In his Sparda form, DMC1, and his Hidden SDDT form I don’t see how Alucard can do anything to Dante.
With that item or in those forms he shows no weakens at all!.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
What are you talking about? We are talking about Alucard based in the Hellsing animé/manga not Dracula. Even though Alucard may be Dracula we are talking about Hellsing here only, you can't be cross referencing to to other things altogether.
From the anime/managa series, the person who fought and defeated Alucard and later on imprisoned him was Van Hellsing. If anything Hellsing takes some facts and places that were mentioned by the book Dracula. (Obvious)
(I don’t know, I think you might have missed a few pages from the manga to over look this fact)
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Oh yeah, Alucard is able to read the mind of Dante and predict is moves. Read the manga for proof.Plus you haven't given any reason why Dante can actually stop Alucard from actually eating him.
True but, give me proof that Alucard could have eaten Incagnito in his god form or Anderson with the nail of Longidus. Dante is his Sparda form is not to far from them.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
You do know what a meteor is?I would imagine if Alucard wanted to destroy meteorites he could if he so felt inclined.
Destroying the Metors (several of them) is Dante’s strength feat. I never said anything about in a way to diminishing Alucard strength. On the other hand its irrelevant since we have never seen Alucard destroy one himself.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Yeah I don't know where you came up with that soul thing at all I also agree that it isn't mentioned in the manga or the animé
Its hinted, not really established. But Alucard does has his limits to his retentive and Immortality powers and his powers can be exhausted as well (reffer to the scans about him being defeated by Van Hellsing and crew.)
Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
If you think Dante has this then give a reason, cause I really can't see Dante doing anything that Arucard can't reform from.
Actually I Believe Alucard would win the match. But Dante is being grossly under rated.
Im not a huge fan of both, and what I type in the match is purely unbiased. But I think its stupid to argue a point when
A- You don’t do much research about both characters to know what they are capable.
B- You just a fanboy. Arguing in a fanboyish way.
Ah I'm not the one stealing volume 8 am I? It isn't even released in book form in Japan let alone in America nor Ireland for that matter.
A- You don’t do much research about both characters to know what they are capable.
Yet again I point out that you stole that material. If you read the books you'll notice a nice copyright on the inside of the book.
B- You just a fanboy. Arguing in a fanboyish way.
Well that doesn't make sense. First you say Alucard can't win, then suddenly you say Alucard will win!?! Thus that would make me right.
I haven't read Volume 8 yet as I wait patiently for the official book version.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Ah I'm not the one stealing volume 8 am I? It isn't even released in book form in Japan let alone in America nor Ireland for that matter.Yet again I point out that you stole that material. If you read the books you'll notice a nice copyright on the inside of the book.
Well that doesn't make sense. First you say Alucard can't win, then suddenly you say Alucard will win!?! Thus that would make me right.
I haven't read Volume 8 yet as I wait patiently for the official book version.
What?
Is that all you do, bi+ch and complain when proven wrong.
And now the material I posted doesn’t count because you weren’t aware of the new releases?
In case you haven’t caught up yet, volume 9 chapters 1&2 has bien released , plus a prequel Hellsing The Dawn has come out as well.
And were did I say Alucard cant win, I said in all my post that Alucard would have a hard time with Dante for so and so reason. And went on to explain why, and after I was done explaining why, I asked anyone in the forum what can Alucard do about it. No one responded. The time I spent defending Dante was to voice out my oppinon on how strong he is. What have you pointed out, I can counter with a situation were Dante has fought in a somewhat same circumstantiate. With the current knowledge you know of Alucard, you cant put up a decent debate since, you don’t know the full scope of his powers.
Oh and incase you didn’t know Japan likes (and encourages) the idea of fansubing animes and mangas that haven’t bin released in the US and other countries. It helps promote sales for their material that’s why you see so much of them on the web to download.
Any how Im done debating here, I made my point their no more reason for me to stick around if your just going to act childish..
