Dante vs Alucard

First of all id369, neither the Untouchable nor the Holy Water are standard equipment for Dante like his swords and guns. They are optional items that he could buy, and since Zen2nd never specified if Dante had access to those items I merely assumed that he didn't. And think about what you said about the Holy Water, it only kills defenceless enemies, Arucard has been shown to have a resistance to standard Vampire weaknesses like silver and holy water, so I can only assume damage would be minimal unless Dante's packing a load of them. Something which NEVER happens cause the damm things cost so much.

Concerning the Sparda transformation, at what point has Dante been shown to be invincible while in ANY of his Devil Triggers. I'll be the first to admit that I'm only up to 'Dante Must Die' mode on 1 and 3, (I've never spent much time on 2 though 😮 ) But as far as I am aware Dante can still be harmed not matter his form. And without an endless supply of Untouchables, his Devil Trigger is finite, lasting at maximum somewhere between 30 seconds and a minute if I remember correctly. The only time this was different was during the first stage of the Mundos fight, and even then he was knocked out of it with enough damage.

As for the scans you've shown, yes I knew nothing about them I don't have that particular volume at this particular point in time. I can't research material if I don't have access to it, as far as I was aware Arucard simply used a form of Dark Magic, not the souls of those he killed. And if possible I would like to know how he was defeated, because if it involves something Dante isn't capable of then that particular argument is moot.

Right now in this fight Dante has access to only one weapon that Arucard could arguably die outright from, and thats only if the creator of this thread allows it. Otherwise I see no reason to assume that Arucard can dodge and teleport away from the majority of Dante's attacks and be able to reform those he can't dodge. Dante is a better fighter but as long as Arucard has those two particular advantages it shouldn't matter. As far as I'm concerned Arucard still wins the fight.

I was fully aware of the release actually but there is one slight thing you forgot. That is Alucard in the past. Since then Hellsing have done experiments on him to make him even more powerful than he was in the past.

If you go back all the way to volume 1 you'll notice in the basement they had experiment labs.

Is that all you do, bi+ch and complain when proven wrong.

How was I proved wrong? I said that Alucard would beat Dante. Then you say that Alucard would beat Dante. Ergo would that not make me correct?

Only up to Volume 7 has been released in book form, in proper transfered English.

Don't say I act childish please. Just saying that yourself makes you look immature. You had access to material some people might not want to read. Even I don't want to read it. I want to get it in proper book form. The official source. I'll pay my money for the book and add to the popularity of it.

So I ask have you bought the books or are you cheap?

You never said that Alucard would lose but you heavily implied that he would.

Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
First of all id369, neither the Untouchable nor the Holy Water are standard equipment for Dante like his swords and guns. They are optional items that he could buy, and since Zen2nd never specified if Dante had access to those items I merely assumed that he didn't. And think about what you said about the Holy Water, it only kills defenceless enemies, Arucard has been shown to have a resistance to standard Vampire weaknesses like silver and holy water, so I can only assume damage would be minimal unless Dante's packing a load of them. Something which NEVER happens cause the damm things cost so much.

Alucard fighting Incognito isn’t canon but you don’t see me saying anything about it. During the fight with Incognito, Alucard was getting ripped apart left to right, yet Incognito does not have holy weapons or blessed attacks, yet I said nothing about that either.

Then you go on to say that Dante can not hurt Alucard since he doesn’t have any of those holy weapons to do any damage, I bring up an item Holy water, oh but I cant bring up items that aren’t standard equipment even thou he can obtain them in any of the 3 DMC games (and he is in the business were it would be a requirement). I would also like to state that, I never said it would be an instant win with holy water, or if it would do any damage I simply replied that he does have accesses to holy bases weapons.

I can understand not accepting the invincibility Item but not the Holy water.

Concerning the Sparda transformation, at what point has Dante been shown to be invincible while in ANY of his Devil Triggers. I'll be the first to admit that I'm only up to 'Dante Must Die' mode on 1 and 3, (I've never spent much time on 2 though 😮 ) But as far as I am aware Dante can still be harmed not matter his form. And without an endless supply of Untouchables, his Devil Trigger is finite, lasting at maximum somewhere between 30 seconds and a minute if I remember correctly. The only time this was different was during the first stage of the Mundos fight, and even then he was knocked out of it with enough damage.[/B]

His Sparda form grants him the power that rivals the King of Hell Mundus. Even if its not invincible his all his attributes go up for an indefinite amount of time. And was shown to have no weakeness. That’s what I said word per word.

Then I went on to say that in Devil May Cry 2 Dante has a Super Devil Trigger where “ALL” Attributes are raised and He becomes “Invincible”. If you are not aware of this that’s your own fault not mine. Go look it up at gamefaqs or gamewinners to see for your self.

And lets not forget that Dante has healing powers as well. And In the game when he is under the DDT, his healing powers are accelerated as well. (you do remember he heals while he is under DDT in easy and normal mode.)

If you want to get technical, Alucard asks permission to release a restrains. Why does he ask permission? Can he release them if he wishes to? For how long can he stay in this form?
All of these questions have not bin answered as well. And hinders Alucard in the process.

[i]Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
As for the scans you've shown, yes I knew nothing about them I don't have that particular volume at this particular point in time. I can't research material if I don't have access to it, as far as I was aware Arucard simply used a form of Dark Magic, not the souls of those he killed. And if possible I would like to know how he was defeated, because if it involves something Dante isn't capable of then that particular argument is moot.

I already stated, and Alucard has already stated that his powers are not finite, and are exhaustible. He was beaten by 3 ordinary humans Led by Abraham Van Hellsing.

If your not aware of what he is capable of, or don’t have accesses to reach the information its no longer my problem. You do have accesses to the internet and anything you wish to find out is right their, figure out for yourself.

Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
Right now in this fight Dante has access to only one weapon that Arucard could arguably die outright from, and thats only if the creator of this thread allows it.

Weapons that could (as in possibly) be effective against Alucard.

DMC 3 Beowulf - Light based sword.

DMC 1&2 - Spardas Sword -

DMC 1&2 - Yamamoto -

Ebony & Ivory (its not a regular fire arm, but the properties of what they are made of and why they are so effective have not bin properly stated)

DMC 3 Artemis -

DMC 1&2 Nightmare Beta

Originally posted by Lord Ryugen
Otherwise I see no reason to assume that Arucard can dodge and teleport away from the majority of Dante's attacks and be able to reform those he can't dodge. Dante is a better fighter but as long as Arucard has those two particular advantages it shouldn't matter. As far as I'm concerned Arucard still wins the fight

If that’s your oppinon, that’s fine by me I acknowladge it.

Me personally I stated; unless Alucard goes and releases (at least) Lv1 or Zero, he will not win. Sparda Dante, or Super Devil Trigger Dante is to much for Alucard to handle. In those forms he can take an awful amount of damage and inflict an awful amount of damage as well.

I also want to state that even if Alucard transforms into Dracula and Dante becomes Sparda. The it would be a vary close match. I think Alucard has a slight advantage, but I don’t want to give out the reasons of his advantage. (Since you havent read Vol 8 and I don’t want to ruin it for you guys any further.)

Okay thanks.

I'll leave it at that. Until volume 8 comes out 😉

Well how to reply? I know full well that Holy Water would damage Arucard and, however both Anime and Manga show him have at least some resistance to Vampire weaknesses, I was merely stating that if Dante was allowed them I doubted he would have enough to kill Arucard outright. And due to his resistance he could take less damage from them than standard.

If the Incognito fight is not considered cannon then I will of course remove from my argument. However it is a good case for showing Arucards durability, he wasn't in any trouble till he got shot wih his own bullets. That said he did need to absorb all the blood in the tower of London to recover and fight.

I am fully aware of Sparda's and the Super devil trigger power, however neither has an attack that I can't see Arucard being able teleport away from, the best attack there is the giant magma dragon and even that's only unidirectional. And remember Dante can't hold these forms forever and once he's back to normal he has to recharge by fighting. And yes technically Arucard can only go out once he's given permission but I'd assume we're using both combatants at their best which would mean Arucard would have the capability. Otherwise the fight would be decidedly one sided.

Yes you did prove that Arucard had a finite amount of power and that he was defeated by humans. But since I gather Arucard never mentioned how the three humans beat him both of us have to make an assumption on what happened, and I would have to assume that some form of magic was used since I highly doubt the conventional weapons of that era would bother Arucard unless he was significantly weaker. And yes I have been looking around the net for reliable information, unfortunately the Internet rarely has that, obviously you found it but I'm still looking.

Concerning the weapons

DMC 3 Beowulf, yes it's light based and could probably kill Arucard, but it's not a sword id, its a pair of greaves and gauntlets, this means Cante has to get within H2H range and I consider Arucards intelligence level high enough to try and keep out of range if he sees a guy with glowing metal hands and feet running at him.

DMC1&2 Sparda's sword. It's not really that great until Dante uses Devil trigger, course then it's a beast, range goes up...and it did destroy Mundos' body, so it's got a hell of a lot of dark power...hmm well I guess it depends on terrain for that, If Arucards got room to teleport out of range and hide for the duration then it's all good, if not then Arucard loses.

DMC1&2 Yamamoto...wasn't that just another one of Sparda's keepsake swords? I don't see what it's going to do.

Ebony&Ivory You already gave the reason I didn't include them, we don't know if it's only normal bullets it fires. Remember Lady in 3 was able to kill demons with standard rounds.

DMC3 Artemis The single worst weapon in the game, yes it's holy but lets face it if Arucard can't dodge it's attack he has no business in this fight.

DMC1&2 Nightmare Beta, a weapon that drains Dante's devil trigger to release a single beam that bounces off surfaces. I don't see it as a very useful weapon against a moving target. If you miss once you've got to be pretty damm lucky or a master a figuring out angle to hit on the rebound.

You know I'm almost sold on Dante's victory. I never meant to say he only had one weapon he could use, just one weapon that he could use effectively. Obviously we disagree on this but you've convinced me that Sparda will do the job provided he gets Arucard before he's able to dodge/teleport.

Hmmm good fight.

I gather Arucard never mentioned how the three humans beat him both of us have to make an assumption on what happened, and I would have to assume that some form of magic was used since I highly doubt the conventional weapons of that era would bother Arucard unless he was significantly weaker. And yes I have been looking around the net for reliable information, unfortunately the Internet rarely has that, obviously you found it but I'm still looking.

I was thinking about this. If they beat Alucard why is he still around? Plus Hellsing made him stronger than he was back then anyway.

I imagine that Helsing and his gang of men only managed to lock him up not actually defeat him because there wasn't a way to beat him.

Alucard rides in on a Gundam and shoots Dante in the face.

Kain from the legacy of kain series reaves both their souls with the reaver and ends the fight

👆

As mentioned in the other thread Alucard doesn't have a soul.

true that.

who took his soul, where it go?

anyway back on topic, regardless of his soul not being there the reaver is an indestructable sword that drain souls AND blood, his strength and power will waste away, Kain is too much for most characters

ok im a fan of both of these fighters an i say this is goin 2 b a draw cuz think about it 4 a second Alucard does hav reg an tele but dante has the sword of his father that killed basicly the greatest demon in the world an i know of alu's demondog form but agin if u ever played dmc3 dante has 2 skill that would make that usless he has quicksilver witch bascily stops time an dopleganger (guess wut that does) but agin alu's demon self is a force 2 b reconed with so 2 me its a draw plain and simple

oh an alucard has no soul because its basic vampirism u sacrifice your soul 4 immortality but even that would come at a price witch would b the drinking of others blood

alucard cant be killed by sunlight halfvimpire

In their own rights, both are incrediblly powerful. But when put together I believe Alucard wins.

He gets eaten... doggeh style! Yeehaw! xP

Alucard slams dante.

Alucard took down Goderson DESIGNED to beat the undead and all unholy creatures) he ripped the bitches heart out and then monolouged

Dante is another familiar for Alucard...on the plus side dante can get it on with Rip van Winkle....

ok... i watched the DMC anime, but never played any of the games. i know enough about the games from wikipedia and this thread. as i watched dmc, one question always popped up: "Who would win? Alucard or Dante?" so i watched the first episode and looked the question and i saw this thread. I read it (Took like a fu(kin hour) and i went to do my research on alucard. here is my thoughts:

"Hey, Dante, im tired and youre tired,. how about end this with a draw?"

"Yea that's wat i have been thinking. screw those guys working their @$$es off trying to prove that one of us is stronger"

"Yea, want to get a beer?"

"Hellz yea bro!?

"When i say beer i mean blood..."

im gonna post my evidence later, now i gotta go to bed

ok, its pretty simple really, dante KILLS alucard in the blink of an eye. UTTER mismatch.