Originally posted by Tony StarkStones and glass houses.
What does that post have to do with WW?😕
Originally posted by BobbyDMinus heat vision and breath but plus magical weaponry...
Again, Jrod you are entitled to your opinion. However, if I can make you "see the light", so to speak, the thread may as well been written Superman minus heat vision and breath vs Thing and Namor. Virtually, that's what WW vs Thing and Namor is.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Stones and glass houses.
Minus heat vision and breath but plus magical weaponry...
So i think that The THING takes down Mongul quickly...?
That means nothing to this thread because we're not talking about him, we're talking about WW fighting against characters who are somewhat comparable to each other.
But one Ult Colossus solo (per metalmanx) would give WW more trouble than The THING and Namor combined working as a team.
Which i think you'll agree needs to be addressed as far as the WTF are you smoking factor goes...
Do you disagree with me?
Or do you believe that what metalmanx is stating is correct?
Are you still saying that Wonder Woman and Thing are comparable to each other?
Metalmanx's statement is taken out of context. He clearly stated several times that he thought Wonder Woman would win undoubtedly. He simply wanted to say that in his opinion his strength might surprise her. He is a fan of Colossus and Ult. Colossus.
Personally I think she'd beat him as easily as she would beat Namor, or Thing, or Namor and Thing, or Namor, Ult. Colossus and Thing together. Of the three only Namor would give her any difficulty if at all.
You maintain things like Thing and Namor win against Wonder Woman 9/10 and Thing would beat Mongul in 3 minutes. You get the additional -boy suffix.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Are you still saying that Wonder Woman and Thing are comparable to each other?Metalmanx's statement is taken out of context. He clearly stated several times that he thought Wonder Woman would win undoubtedly. He simply wanted to say that in his opinion his strength might surprise her. He is a fan of Colossus and Ult. Colossus.
Personally I think she'd beat him as easily as she would beat Namor, or Thing, or Namor and Thing, or Namor, Ult. Colossus and Thing together. Of the three only Namor would give her any difficulty if at all.
You maintain things like Thing and Namor win against Wonder Woman 9/10 and Thing would beat Mongul in 3 minutes. You get the additional -boy suffix.
No i'm not saying that WW and The THING are comparable i'm saying that Ult Colossus THING and Namor are.
And i've read all of metalmanx's posts on that thread Ult Colossus vs WW and i don't think you have if you think that the statement that was verbatum "I know Wonder Woman will probably win, but I just don't think it'll be too easy".
I think he wrote what he felt.
Read it again.
"probably" and "don't think it'll be too easy"
He does say that WW will win and that Ult Colossus's strength will impress her. But he does feel that It will not be an easy victory for WW.
And thats where i have to laugh he says that WW would crush THING and Namor together quickly but Ult Colossus will give WW trouble but still lose...
Thats what was said nothing is out of context. He's got more than 1 post on the thread about it and it doesn't change.
Firstly I have no idea why you feel the need to capitalise all the letters in "Thing."
Three other verbatim quotes:
"I know that Wonder Woman wins."
"Wonder Woman totally wins."
"I know Wonder Woman wins."
Unequivocal that Wonder Woman wins. However people don't tend to like to think that characters they like lose badly. They prefer to believe that it wouldn't be as easy as everyone else believes. But most aren't delusional and will admit that characters they like would lose.
All I see is that he feels no need to defend characters that he isn't a great fan of against the tide of opinion. You could call it inconsistent if you wish, you're consistent - consistently biased, but consistent - so there's no hypocrisy there, but you're in no position to accuse anyone of bias.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Firstly I have no idea why you feel the need to capitalise all the letters in "Thing."Three other verbatim quotes:
"I know that Wonder Woman wins."
"Wonder Woman totally wins."
"I know Wonder Woman wins."Unequivocal that Wonder Woman wins. However people don't tend to like to think that characters they like lose badly. They prefer to believe that it wouldn't be as easy as everyone else believes. But most aren't delusional and will admit that characters they like would lose.
All I see is that he feels no need to defend characters that he isn't a great fan of against the tide of opinion. You could call it inconsistent if you wish, you're consistent - consistently biased, but consistent - so there's no hypocrisy there, but you're in no position to accuse anyone of bias.
Because Marvel says it that way The THING is in capitals. As is THOR, The HULK...etc. I'm just following their lead... And it seems to bug you so even better.
I am consistent... Consistently logical... Consistently fair... And Consistently honest... Sometimes bias like most everyone on here, if it's a close fight I will go to whom i personally like better and why not.
Do you do it differently?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You consider Thing vs Mongul a close fight...? And that saying Thing wins is logical...? Or 9/10 for Namor and Thing vs Wonder Woman is logical...? Okay.. sure....
I geuss i just don't see how hard it is to look at it like this...
Try to follow MY LOGIC...
Both The THING and Namor have the capabilities to to hang with through a very long and tough fight, if not beat every once in a while by themselves HULK, THOR, Herc... THING and Namor can't beat any of them on a regular basis but they are always a close fight.
I believe that all 3 of those guys HULK, THOR, Herc will beat WW the high majority of the time 7 or 8/10.
That being said 2 guys that can hang through a long fight with any of those 3 by themselves, with those 3 being characters who also can beat WW on a regular basis.
Together working as a team they should be able to beat WW on a regular basis also.
Maybe 9/10 is extreme. but 7/10 surly isn't and in reality it's much closer to 8/10.
There my friend is MY LOGIC...
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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's not logic it's gibberish. A grounded ally in a fight against Wonder Woman is redundant. Darkcrawler has said that Namor doesn't stand a chance. If you think Thing can take down Wonder Woman...You didn't explain Thing vs Mongul with your deluded "logic".
Your head seems to be as thick as Ben's prick...
Namor or The THING aren't fighting WW by themselves...
They are fighting her together...
And to your surprise i'm sure they've actually fought others who can... how you say... Eh...fly before.
What if Namor decides not to fly and just stays on the ground and stands next to Ben... Would WW have to come down from the sky to attack them?
I think so...
And even if he was flying around with WW does that mean he can't knock her to the ground into Ben's mits?
It's not that hard, again they've actually fought other beings that can fly in the past...
They've both been in teams before and know how to work as one.
Namor with characters that can't fly and Ben with characters that can fly.
It doesn't automatically mean it's then turned into one on one because WW can fly.
Thats ridiculous...
No retort i see with the HULK, THOR, Herc LOGIC eh...
Too LOGICAL...
I'd say.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
I geuss i just don't see how hard it is to look at it like this...Try to follow MY LOGIC...
Both The THING and Namor have the capabilities to to hang with through a very long and tough fight, if not beat every once in a while by themselves HULK, THOR, Herc... THING and Namor can't beat any of them on a regular basis but they are always a close fight.
I believe that all 3 of those guys HULK, THOR, Herc will beat WW the high majority of the time 7 or 8/10.
That being said 2 guys that can hang through a long fight with any of those 3 by themselves, with those 3 being characters who also can beat WW on a regular basis.
Together working as a team they should be able to beat WW on a regular basis also.
Maybe 9/10 is extreme. but 7/10 surly isn't and in reality it's much closer to 8/10.
There my friend is MY LOGIC...
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You make a good points. Some people just arent looking at this logically. Theyll say "Wonder Woman lifted this" or "Shes in the same league as Supes". We just all have our own opinions so just let it be.
Originally posted by Tony Stark😂 I just had a search through the old threads. Did you have a sock account to support yourself... that's just... sad...
Your head seems to be as thick as Ben's prick...Namor or The THING aren't fighting WW by themselves...
They are fighting her together...
And to your surprise i'm sure they've actually fought others who can... how you say... Eh...fly before.
What if Namor decides not to fly and just stays on the ground and stands next to Ben... Would WW have to come down from the sky to attack them?
I think so...
And even if he was flying around with WW does that mean he can't knock her to the ground into Ben's mits?
It's not that hard, again they've actually fought other beings that can fly in the past...
They've both been in teams before and know how to work as one.
Namor with characters that can't fly and Ben with characters that can fly.
It doesn't automatically mean it's then turned into one on one because WW can fly.
Thats ridiculous...
No retort i see with the HULK, THOR, Herc LOGIC eh...
Too LOGICAL...
I'd say.
Your logic is that of a two year old. A cat is a pet and a dog is a pet so a cat is a dog. The power of "heart" doesn't cut it on the boards, at least imo.
Oh and Thing has no phallus.
Thing does have a phallus... please demonstrate an actual comic where its stated otherwise. Its simply speculation by most that he doesnt have one...that and the funny cartoon people occasionally post. That is why he always wears shorts or pants or something...What it looks like, I dont know. But in an alternate dimension he did have kids...considering the texture of his skin he would need a woman with incredible durability like She-Hulk, She-Thing, or Wonder Woman.
Oh and about this thread. I dont really see how it makes any sense at all. Tony is right Thing and Namor have individually beaten a list of enemies a mile long. Making an argument like WW would blow Thing's head off with her little finger is pure garbage. 90% of the people in this forum have a disturbing hatred of the Thing that results in them giving him no credit at all. The fact that their knowledge of the Thing is mostly based on cartoons and the F4 movie doesnt help either. Thing has beaten the Destroyer and Hulk, taken the best from Champion with the power gem, Gladiator, Occulus,etc and survived a blast that destroyed a planet sized cosmic being. Thanos is really the only person who's treated him a b!tch...and he would do the same to WW anyway.
So yea...IMO Thing with Namor is certainly overkill...
[QUOTE=5338737]Originally posted by xmarksthespot
[B]😂 I just had a search through the old threads. Did you have a sock account to support yourself... that's just... sad...
Your logic is that of a two year old. A cat is a pet and a dog is a pet so a cat is a dog. The power of "heart" doesn't cut it on the boards, at least imo.
The answer is NO... I do not use another account in addition to this one.
3kvil came up with that b.s. when he couldn't get past the knowledge, and logic either and tried to discredit me and my posts.
As far as the cats and dogs... It seems that you can't get past it (HULK, THOR, Herc beating down WW and what that then means to this thread) because it's true... and it seems as if your not man enough to admit when your wrong... which is ok because few are on this site...
Hm... similarity in post style, avatar, name type, join date and bias if it was BS by k3vil then it's very convincing BS. Puh-lease, if I state something that's proven inaccurate then I'll very easily admit it, you've proven nothing other than that you make wolverine8888 look fair and balanced.
Thor would beat Namor and Thing. A Hulk incarnation amped enough to beat Wonder Woman would take down Thing and Namor.
The oversimplification of A>B therefore B<C only works if you can show that C>A.
Thing should not win against WW. However, he has beaten and taken worse i.e. the Destroyer and Champion who would anihilate Diana just the same. WW has higher stats in strength and speed. Thing is just good at fighting, he doesnt care how strong his opponent is. Add Namor to the equation and its not even fair anymore.