Daredevil versus Wolverine!!!

Originally posted by jinzin
he'd have to get past the admantium skeleton to use most tactics you just described.. wolverine would have to leave himself open for the kick to the balls... I'm an adverse martial artist.. but getting out of somethig like that when yo've been put there by an unbreakable metal structure is something martial arts simply doesn't help to do...

Jin, dude. DD's in a full nelson. Standing right in front of Wolvie. Back turned. All he has to do is raise a foot up behind him right between Wolvie's legs. Bam, ball-kick.

And to Cresh. Yes, I know he's got an adamantium skeleton, I'm not new to it. But the nose is made of cartilage. And for some reason has many many pain receptors there. Basically, it's quite sensitive. If DD were to fling his head back just right, it would hurt Wolvie's nose like hell.

Originally posted by jrodslam
A great fighter would prevent you from geting out in a move.

And if DD were the better fighter wouldn't it have been Wolverine in the hold instead?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Jin, dude. DD's in a full nelson. Standing right in front of Wolvie. Back turned. All he has to do is raise a foot up behind him right between Wolvie's legs. Bam, ball-kick.

And to Cresh. Yes, I know he's got an adamantium skeleton, I'm not new to it. But the nose is made of cartilage. And for some reason has many many pain receptors there. Basically, it's quite sensitive. If DD were to fling his head back just right, it would hurt Wolvie's nose like hell.

And then what?

You think that hurt's more than this?

I wonder how it feels to grow the face back, losing it, having it gone, and growing it back have got to hurt like hell. . .

Originally posted by jrodslam
A great fighter would prevent you from geting out in a move. I can however. A truly great fighter would show how he gets out of the move. Batman has been put in pleanty of moves over his career, but the key is always geting out.

Please. I dont get offended by people on this forum. You dont know me and vise versa.

the point is that if dd were so skilled over those of wolverine he wouldn't have been put there in the first place.. but he was..

Originally posted by Creshosk
And then what?

You think that hurt's more than this?

I wonder how it feels to grow the face back, losing it, having it gone, and growing it back have got to hurt like hell. . .

I'm sure it hurt like hell. Never doubted that. But, as you can see, Wolverine then went into some bezerker mode there. My understanding is a nose shot would hurt like hell, but not throw him into bezerker.

Clearly it takes a shotgun blast to the face to do that.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Did you read the scan?Why would Wolverine keep the move up after they reached an understanding like that?

And if DD were the better fighter wouldn't it have been Wolverine in the hold instead?

What the hell are you talking about Creshosk? What scan? I never saw anything posted.

Originally posted by jinzin
the point is that if dd were so skilled over those of wolverine he wouldn't have been put there in the first place.. but he was..

What was the comic? And post scans of the event please. 😄

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I'm sure it hurt like hell. Never doubted that. But, as you can see, Wolverine then went into some bezerker mode there. My understanding is a nose shot would hurt like hell, but not throw him into bezerker.

Clearly it takes a shotgun blast to the face to do that.

In which case calm reasonable wolvie would have been turned into beserker wolvie. . .

Bad idea.

mcp presents... i forgot the issue number... there's nothing more to post.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Pain might be a trigger.

In which case calm reasonable wolvie would have been turned into beserker wolvie. . .

Bad idea.

yeah not so much of a great argument IMO.

Originally posted by jinzin
mcp presents... i forgot the issue number... there's nothing more to post.

mcp presents?

yes.

Originally posted by jrodslam
What the hell are you talking about Creshosk? What scan? I never saw anything posted.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5368487
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5368492

Originally posted by Creshosk
like two pages back JKinzin posted these:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5368487
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5368492

Ahh cool. And thats what what mean when it was said "If DD is such a great fighter, or such a better fighter why did he get put in a full-nelson?"

Logan also said that nobody's got any sense left when they get near her. Meaning they dont think straight. Meaning DD wasnt thinking straight when he saw her. Especially since they have ties. Nice example of DD's "fighting skills".

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ahh cool. And thats what what mean when it was said "If DD is such a great fighter, or such a better fighter why did he get put in a full-nelson?"

Logan also said that nobody's got any sense left when they get near her. Meaning they dont think straight. Meaning DD wasnt thinking straight when he saw her. Especially since they have ties. Nice example of DD's "fighting skills".

since wolverine was closer for longer amounts of time wouldn't his fighting ability be more off kilter than dd who had just shown up.... hell dd didn't even recognize her.

Originally posted by jinzin
since wolverine was closer for longer amounts of time wouldn't his fighting ability be more off kilter than dd who had just shown up.... hell dd didn't even recognize her.

No because Wolverine hardly even knows her like Daredevil. Daredevil was once in love with her. It didnt effect Wolverine. Thats why he told Matt to let him handle it. Notice how the full-nelson came after Dareevil found out it was Typhoid Mary. They were dead locked, then as soon as DD found out who it was he let up, and gave Wolverine the opening.

How was it that Wolverine didnt smell Daredevil in the area?

Originally posted by jrodslam
No because Wolverine hardly even knows her like Daredevil. Daredevil was once in love with her. It didnt effect Wolverine. Thats why he told Matt to let him handle it. Notice how the full-nelson came after Dareevil found out it was Typhoid Mary. They were dead locked, then as soon as DD found out who it was he let up, and gave Wolverine the opening.

How was it that Wolverine didnt smell Daredevil in the area?

you just said NOBODY has any sense left when they are near her.. if NOBODY does than wolverine shouldn't have.. now you're saying that it's just daredevil who's effected by her? in spite of not recognizing her to begin with? 🤨

and look at the fight again.. wolverine was already in the process of securing dd in that full nelson well before he told dd about mary... if dd is soooo easily distracted than his fighting skills must not be all that they're made out to be eh?

I'm gonna have to agree with Jrod there. As soon as DD found out it was Mary, he totally let up. This gave Wolvie the chance he need to full nelson him. Had DD not been so affected by this newly-acquired information, then that wouldn't have happened.

Originally posted by jinzin
you just said NOBODY has any sense left when they are near her.. if NOBODY does than wolverine shouldn't have.. now you're saying that it's just daredevil who's effected by her? in spite of not recognizing her to begin with? 🤨

and look at the fight again.. wolverine was already in the process of securing dd in that full nelson well before he told dd about mary... if dd is soooo easily distracted than his fighting skills must not be all that they're made out to be eh?

Nobody who seems to know her. If Wolverine said "NOBODY" and he meant nobody, why wouldnt he take DD's help hmm? 🤨

I think you need to look at the fight again. Before Wolvie said "Thats no woman. Thats Typhoid blah blah", him and Daredevil were locked in arms.

DD then let up his grip on Wolvie as SOON as he found out it was her. THEN Wolverine got the nelson on. He knew Daredevil had ties to Mary, thats why Wolvie said he has to go get her on his own.

So she messes people up. . Wolverine was near her longer. Wolverine knew it was a Mary DD didn't.

So much for knowing who it was messing them up.

And DD let up a bit when he found out it was marry?

So much for her messing him up.

Wolverine was around her longer, and yet he was still gaining the upperhand.

So much for it effcting fighting skills eh?

Why wouldn't Wolverine let DD help him? Because he was messed up by mary? Why would DD be messed up by her so his skills were poor, but somehow gain his wits to let up when he found out it was Mary And yet have the opposite effects on Wolvie?

Wow, so much trying to have your cake and eat it too.