I'm saying that (I think) we agree that teaching safe sex is better than trying to repress it altogether, and that sex can lead to a pregancy no matter what precautions you take, excluding surgery. So if a mistake is made and the teenage girl gets pregnant it's most often better that she gets an abortion. Doesn't mean it was bad parenting.. doesn't mean it wasn't. I'd agree that bad parenting does increase the likelyness of things like this happening.. but it doesn't cause it by itself, and good parenting wouldn't stop it by itself.
Originally posted by Afro Cheese
I'm saying that (I think) we agree that teaching safe sex is better than trying to repress it altogether, and that sex can lead to a pregancy no matter what precautions you take, excluding surgery. So if a mistake is made and the teenage girl gets pregnant it's most often better that she gets an abortion. Doesn't mean it was bad parenting.. doesn't mean it wasn't. I'd agree that bad parenting does increase the likelyness of things like this happening.. but it doesn't cause it by itself, and good parenting wouldn't stop it by itself.
Below the legal age, good parenting does stop it. Yes. Because at that point you can still prevent it.
-AC
I agree. I'm not for abortions when it comes down to it I think. The number of girls having them increases every year and the girls are getting younger and younger. . . .
I read in one of those digest magazines that the majority of females who get abortions in America are teenage girls, probably because they feel as though they are too young to take care of a child. But there are tons of other options out there! There are great adoptions agencies, so good that you can even have an open adoption, that is, that the birth mother can be in the child's life as much (or less) as she wants. There are options out there. . .
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah but that's hardly the same as saying it doesn't take much to slip up and get pregnant. The condom has to be on the guy and the guy has to be in the girl for anything to happen. If a girl gets to that point easily...then there's a name for that.-AC
Shhhhh! These 14 year olds, don't know that yet!
Hmmm, while I'm not really a supporter of abortions outside of those needed when there are serious health risks, I do understand the importance of doctor/patient confidentiality and trust. As a result, I don't think the parents should be told, unless of course the girl is underage - in which case technically the police should also be informed, from a legal view anyway.
And I'm not sure if everybody knows this or not, but it's been on, and in, all the news down here (Australia, New Zealand etc) these last couple of days. Basically a large scale, long running abortion research project has just concluded in New Zealand (the largest yet of it's type) at Christchurch (don't worry, it's the name of a location, nothing religious.) And it's turned up some surprising results that some are predicting will inflame the pro-life/pro-choice debate, although the researchers involved are warning that it's wrong to go to any extremes - yet.
Basically the study has revealed a significant increase in mental health problems in those who have abortions compared to those that don't...
Two newspaper articles
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10362476
http://www.smh.com.au/news/health/abortion-linked-to-mental-problems/2006/01/02/1136050394322.html
And the transcript from an ABC (Australian ABC) news interview:
Originally posted by Imperial_SamuraIs that true? What if a 15 yo and her 16 yo boyfriend have sex and she gets pregnant - is there a legal obligation to inform the police?
Hmmm, while I'm not really a supporter of abortions outside of those needed when there are serious health risks, I do understand the importance of doctor/patient confidentiality and trust. As a result, I don't think the parents should be told, unless of course the girl is underage - in which case technically the police should also be informed, from a legal view anyway.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Basically the study has revealed a significant increase in mental health problems in those who have abortions compared to those that don't...
Time permitting, I'll read your links. However, this statement alone I know to be fact. My aunt is ****ing nuts! And she has had two abortions, while she was in her late teens and mid 20's. Now that she is getting older(My mothers youngest sister, who is in her mid 30s) she has slowly gone insane. In her case, it's because(she says) that she never really wanted teh abortions, but her boyfriends talked her into it. Now, she is divorced, living in a house that belongs to my grandfather, and creating web pages about her two dogs...who she has pictures of all over the house, and talks to like they're human. Basically, she's so remorseful over the two lives she ended, that she lives with the guilt everyday...and it cripples her. I just feel bad for the two dogs, I mean, they always give me this "HELP US" look when I'm there.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Is that true? What if a 15 yo and her 16 yo boyfriend have sex and she gets pregnant - is there a legal obligation to inform the police?
Only if the girl says she was raped. If she goes to the clinic, and gets an abortion...and tells the doctor she was raped by the 16 year old boy, then yes, I think the doctor is obligated to tell the authorities, and at the very least teh girls parents. Otherwise, no legal action should be taken.
how could they torture these people, u ask...........
ok, this is how to torture someone properly(sp?)
1. Cut their toes off and then force them to eat them. Same with the fingers.
2. gouge eyes out and then cut pieces of it off, force them to eat it. make little cuts about this:____________________ long and pour salt inside them, after tearing it open.
3. Have all the people that they dont likewalk in, spit on them, laugh and leave.
4. have them be raped by countless fat old men, who have all gotten a vesectamy(sp)
5. Then hang them by their hair for a vouple of days.
6. Let them starve to death.
If they did this to jus tone person, I would bet my life wee would only find one abandoned baby every 10 years or so. hmmm......i have a sadistic mind, but hey, whatever works..........this should be enforced for other things to, such as child molesters and rapists(excluding the rapists from step 4)
Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
how could they torture these people, u ask...........ok, this is how to torture someone properly(sp?)
1. Cut their toes off and then force them to eat them. Same with the fingers.
2. gouge eyes out and then cut pieces of it off, force them to eat it. make little cuts about this:____________________ long and pour salt inside them, after tearing it open.
3. Have all the people that they dont likewalk in, spit on them, laugh and leave.
4. have them be raped by countless fat old men, who have all gotten a vesectamy(sp)
5. Then hang them by their hair for a vouple of days.
6. Let them starve to death.
Sounds almost like Fear Factor Extreme