Drowning Wonderman won't work. He does not need to breathe the same as Colossus.
But Colossus has better durabilty and fighting skills then Wonderman. All you have to do is read their entries in the handbooks. Colossus is rated higher in bothof those categories. Strength is probably even.
If they go h2h I see Colossus taking 7/10. If Wonderman uses his flight advantage his wins more than Colossus.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Drowning Wonderman won't work. He does not need to breathe the same as Colossus.But Colossus has better durabilty and fighting skills then Wonderman. All you have to do is read their entries in the handbooks. Colossus is rated higher in bothof those categories. Strength is probably even.
If they go h2h I see Colossus taking 7/10. If Wonderman uses his flight advantage his wins more than Colossus.
Their skills are practically the same. Colossus had the danger room, and Wonder Man learned from Cap and Hawkeye.
Durability isn't the same. Pete Wisdom stuck hot knives in Colossus's back. And he was screaming in pain. Wonder Man got put through a sun, survived the Nega Bomb while just a few feet away. Wonder Man can be KO'd, but as of yet, nothing has pierced his skin.
It's gonna take a bit more than what Colossus can dish out to put Wonder Man down.
Strength = WM
Speed = WM
Agility = WM(Can jump huge distances just like the Hulk)
Durability = WM (See above)
Stamina = WM (Immortal could literally fight forever if need be)
Skill = Tie... Maybe Colossus has a very slight edge
the whole wonderman being put though the sun and the planet smelled like pis (plot induced stupidy) to me. what makes that feet any more creidble then wolverine surviving a nuke? when a person thinks about how much power the sun has it is more then anybody should be able to take serously the gravtiy alone is so strong that even even top tier class 100 shouldn't be able to stand it. By the way the new colossus can take point blank sentinel fire and not even flinch. I'm not say that colossus is going to win more times out of 10 but the wonderman feet of surviving a star is utterly stupid.
Originally posted by Adam WarlockColossus don't have to pierce his skin to beat him. He can punch him out like Thing did.Durability isn't the same. Pete Wisdom stuck hot knives in Colossus's back. And he was screaming in pain. Wonder Man got put through a sun, survived the Nega Bomb while just a few feet away. Wonder Man can be KO'd, but as of yet, nothing has pierced his skin.
Your saying he can survive the Sun but Thing can knock him out?
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Their skills are practically the same. Colossus had the danger room, and Wonder Man learned from Cap and Hawkeye.Durability isn't the same. Pete Wisdom stuck hot knives in Colossus's back. And he was screaming in pain. Wonder Man got put through a sun, survived the Nega Bomb while just a few feet away. Wonder Man can be KO'd, but as of yet, nothing has pierced his skin.
It's gonna take a bit more than what Colossus can dish out to put Wonder Man down.
Strength = WM
Speed = WM
Agility = WM(Can jump huge distances just like the Hulk)
Durability = WM (See above)
Stamina = WM (Immortal could literally fight forever if need be)
Skill = Tie... Maybe Colossus has a very slight edge
It's not really fair to just say "Hot knives" from Peter Wisdom pierced him. They're not exactly knives. Nor are they just hot. They're energy blades. Which would lead one to assume that the energy produced would be sufficient enough to pierce Colossus.
Colossus' durability has also withstood some crazy, insane things. Colossus was thrown into a star and effortlessly withstood it. I remember him telling Wolverine that he hardly got a tan when the X-men rescued him. So, if you wanna go that route, Colossus has also withstood the damage of a star. And I'd still definitely say that Colossus' durability is higher than Wonderman's.
I'm gonna say have to say 6/10 for Wonderman fighting with all his abilities, and give Colossus 7/10 if it goes purely hand-to-hand.
Originally posted by jasofisc
the whole wonderman being put though the sun and the planet smelled like pis (plot induced stupidy) to me. what makes that feet any more creidble then wolverine surviving a nuke? when a person thinks about how much power the sun has it is more then anybody should be able to take serously the gravtiy alone is so strong that even even top tier class 100 shouldn't be able to stand it. By the way the new colossus can take point blank sentinel fire and not even flinch. I'm not say that colossus is going to win more times out of 10 but the wonderman feet of surviving a star is utterly stupid.
No it's not.
He's just that damn tough.
And he Colossus still loses if he goes toe to toe with WM. 9 out of 10.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
I dont Think Wonderman is as good as you say I think Thor could take him out by himself.
He can take Thor. 3 to 4 times out of 10.
He took most of the Avengers down in his first appearance including Thor. He also took them down again Thor included when he was under the influence of the Enchantress. WM took on Pagan who's strength level/durability level was near Nefaria's.
Colossus is good, but he just doesn't have what it takes to take WM down. WM outclasses him in nearly every category.
when ever wm fights the hulk he gets man handled. Not to menchen he got beat on a regular basis by atlas back when he was not in his ionic form (the same form he got pushed into a star with which again I still think is crap) so I really don't have a good idea of how powerful this guy is. sure he has inpressive feats but so does everybody. I think if we look at the stats we can see that colossus and WM are pretty evenly matched but I would still give the edge to WM.
If Wonderman is so great not saying that he isn't Why hasn't he defeated Apocalypse, or Galactus. Colossus might not get the win but I think he would put up a good fight, for he did take out the whole supersouja team. I also think powers vary between diffren't writers like they will be strong in one comix, and weak in another.
Originally posted by jasofisc
when ever wm fights the hulk he gets man handled. Not to menchen he got beat on a regular basis by atlas back when he was not in his ionic form (the same form he got pushed into a star with which again I still think is crap) so I really don't have a good idea of how powerful this guy is. sure he has inpressive feats but so does everybody. I think if we look at the stats we can see that colossus and WM are pretty evenly matched but I would still give the edge to WM.
When Atlas first came out he stomped Simon, twice. But Simon has had quite a bit of upgrades since then. Their last 3 matches ended with WM curb stomping Atlas. That's it. WM is still leading.
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You are right. WM wins more times than not.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
If Wonderman is so great not saying that he isn't Why hasn't he defeated Apocalypse, or Galactus. Colossus might not get the win but I think he would put up a good fight, for he did take out the whole supersouja team. I also think powers vary between diffren't writers like they will be strong in one comix, and weak in another.
So what, could Colossus take on Galactus? Hell no. Could Colossus take on Apoc by himself? It's possible. After what namor did to Apoc, I'm sure WM could hand Apoc his ass in a similar fashion. Namor has been KO'd by Wonder Man.
Power wise, WM is to versatile. He's got the basics, flight, superhuman strength, super speed, invulnerability, high stamina, plus he's immortal, he never needs to eat, sleep, or breathe, can alter his size to Atlas size levels with the proportionate strength, fire off energy beams from his eyes as he did to War Machine. Colossus is outclassed.